Same old Rob, lies, lies and more lies. See below for details.
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:
Ok, let's give some of the lonely old people--such as my
friend "Dick" - something to continue to live for. Let's liven up
this dead and misled sub-forum if only for a day or two. Let's tell
the truth instead of re-reading his made-up scenario of me that he
is
so neurotic about. I can honestly say no one person in my life has
ever been so obsessed over and envious of me at the same time! He's
a
walking conflict.
First, the past few days up until I ended it yesterday, the vp-guru
wannabee and I have been trading e-mails with the main theme
being "Dick, when we gonna meet so I can do what you've asked me to
do for years--esplain my strategy so you can finally understand
what
you're criticizing, and I'll detail the over 1700 special plays
that
deviate from expert strategy that you have little to no idea what
they're about"? His response? He can't, he won't, he's afraid, he's
too timid, he doesn't want me to see how out-of-shape he is...any
excuse in the book.
I told Rob was where he could find me 4 days a week. In addition, I
NEVER asked Rob to detail any of his special plays. I already know
they're all BS designed specifically to sucker people into his con.
That makes at least two lies in this one paragraph alone.
He kinda approached all this as he has the
multiple bets and challenges I've tried to get him to confirm in
the
past--at the last minute he escapes while twisting in some weasel-
out
excuse that makes him feel like he's doing the right thing.
1. (and it gets even more corny as we count them down): I'm accused
of running a con, and even Mickey Crimm--who has shown some sort of
intelligence in the past when it comes to what I'm doing--is buying
into Dick's theory. From what I read, I'm supposed to be taking a
cut
of the profits from winners (now THEY win but I supposedly do not)
and all these players are playing high enough limits that I make
over
$100k/yr. No wonder Dick's jealous if he believes that BS.
Denial. Rob's biggest asset. Too bad the facts don't support him.
2. I use other people's player's cards for the points when I'm
teaching them. BZZZZT - Wrong again. I've done that once in Nv.--
with a broken down chubby little guy who has no right playing vp
because he doesn't have the money, and it was because he had no
card
where I was training him. He goes by the handle oej719 on vp.com,
and
he's got Dick (shadowman over there) bamboozled on every lie he
tells
about me. But of course Dick enjoys it because it fits into his
fantasy of him being better than me.
I've only talked to ONE person who Rob has taught and he stated Rob
insisted on using Rob's players card. I wonder what the odds are that
he would be the ONLY one. Yeah, right. I think we can add this to the
list of lies.
4. Dick says I'm "bankrupt" and I like to talk about my "wealth".
That's a lie. I never said you were bankrupt. I stated you've been
through bankrupcy. I realize your wife has a good job now and your
con also brings in some money.
Well, my gambling bankroll has been a steady $171,600 since 1999,
I've won a documented $793,000 with my play strategies since
dumping
the optimal-play nonsense--all of which I have given to or spent on
my children, I have a home here in Az. and I have one in Hawaii
that
I lease out, I keep an apartment for my son's family in Phoenix
because he's in Afghanistan and his wife & my grandson can be
closer
to us until he finally gets back, thanks to the Great GWB's
unequalled Donestic Policies my savings plans have grown more than
I
ever expected over the past 7 years, my wife works and also
provides
the health ins. as well as keeps her own 401k, and I live a
comfortable life with my wife and nearby our children and
grandchildren. Now compare that to what Bob Dancer and some of the
other big shots you've read about have been claiming and ask
yourself
if I'm really wealthy - or am I just normal for my age. And
bankrupt? These critics run with that ever since they locate it on
the Internet or remember reading it as disclosed by me on my
original
vptruth forum before my current site went up in 2000. I filed in
1996
because I got involved in a bad investment. It was also at the tail
end of my losing $250,000 playing long-term strategy. Chapter 7
back
then was a great tool. It wiped out the investment loan as well as
all my credit card debt, so I really made almost $30k on the deal.
And my home & 401k were immune from the creditors.
So, what you're saying is I'm absolutely correct. Amazing.
5. BTW--I'm still waiting for any or all of you high-rolling
winners
to accept my challenge that I can absolutely prove I have won $793k
to date. Why waffle over it? I'll even pay for an arbitrator who's
decision will be final & binding if there's any doubt or question
when all the documentation is provided. Have you ever seen any of
the
so-called "AP's" who keep saying they're winners "every year we've
played" publish such a challenge as I have in the paper or even say
it on a forum where they can safely hide behind their computers
when
saying it?
Sorry, but unless you can prove the money did NOT come from your con
then you have nothing to stand on. Deposits after accepting money
teaching your system is a much more likely scenario than your winning.
6. Do I bash vp players as Dick says I do? Certainly. They get the
truth from me from all angles. Most of them don't have the money to
play because they have no bankroll to play with other than family
money, many of them are smokers who just don't get that they'll
more
than likely die a slow, excruciating, humiliating death in front of
those who loved them, many players drink too much, and sooo many
oif
them are either overweight or downright obese that it's not funny
anymore. But when I train players it's not only in vp. I help them
understand how to be involved in healthy activities other than
sitting at machines all day and night, and I teach them self-
respect.
And it's all FREE! Try getting that from anyone anywhere period.
More lies. You can see from his first statements that Rob hates all
VP players. The only reason he "teaches" them is to take their money.
Dick comes across as someone who wants all posters to respect him
or
else he'll argue with them neurotically--esp. is they say anything
that challenges his beliefs.
Beliefs have nothing to do with anything. Just as I've always done I
debate the FACTs of the issue. Always have, always will.
He's & his missus are vp addicts who
moved to LV so they could be closer to the machines. From my
discuaaion with him the past few says, he believes it's far better
to
be sitting at machines 20 hours a week than to help his children
and
grandchildren live a better live. He calls babysitting and
support "meddling" & "interference".
Another lie. I never said babby sitting itself was either one.
However, that's not the end of it. You feel like you must control
their lives just like everything else you touch. I really feel sorry
for your kids who have had to deal with you their entire lives.
Yet the hypocracy of it all
shows his wife being sick with lupus and other debilitating
diseases
yet he shows no mercy and still makes her sit for hours at the
machines instead of going to visit their son. I will be saying a
prayer for that family this Sunday.
Rob, you are posting private information that I shared with you. By
disclosing it here you are showing your true colors to everyone.
Disgusting!
Now, if you were interested in posting the facts, you would have
stated that the reason she likes to play VP is because so many other
activities are unavailabe to her since she cannot be in the sun.
Therefore, she has found VP to be a wonderful outlet for her when she
has so few other options.
So let's see the kook inputs now. Here's your platform.
Just the facts, as always.
Dick
PS. Looks like were in for more of Singer's BS until he decides he
has, once again, looked foolish and runs off to some other forum with
his tail between his legs. He's done it 3 times already, why should
this time be any different.