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Sam's Town Mystery My Aunt F( )<#!*g Fanny

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In the past few years, I have become increasingly upset, annoyed, and flat out pissed off with the apparent lack of gaming knowledge in the industry in general, particularly with Boyd Gaming casinos, and specifically with my home property in the Boyd group, which is Sam’s Town here in Las Vegas. It seems that I hear the phrase “stupid with two O’s” quite frequently as a progressive type today, get with the times, in the know, speaking style. Although my mover and shaker days are well behind me, I surely want to write like I’m still hip with the times (can we still legally use the word hip for something other than a replacement body structure part?). Since I don’t want to plagiarize an entire segment of the population in general, and it seems more correct, you may see me use my version, which is “st00pid with two Zeros”. Since Sam’s Town was built in 1979, this is the 36th August in a row that they have been up and running as a casino, you would not think that not much in depth research, customer base demographic analysis, or focus group study would be needed to decide what would work to draw bodies into your gamblin’ joint during the height of the summer HEAT (anybody know what the hell a Vandella is anyway?) WAVE!! So, it seems quite MYSTERIOUS that they settled on just ONE point multiplier day per week for the entire month of August. To Honor the movie, “Dumb And Dumber”, and to further limit the appeal of a single multiplier day,they decided on Wednesday as the day, and to only those of us old farts, like me, over the age of 50 who participate in their Young At Heart Promotion, Hey!!, Sam’s, do all of you management mensa candidates realize that the first stepping stone for any casino starts with getting max number of fanny’s into the seats? Could it be possible that the aforementioned research, demographics, and focus groups were passed over and instead, in preparation for August, they borrowed a ouija board from one of their bar backs and asked said board for the best road to August success? Is there an unknown competition between the tourists brave enough to overrun our city in a high,( but it’s a dry ) heat month of August in order to determine who can melt in it the fastest, locals or visitors?

Let me expound on the real MYSTERY part of this promotion. Sam’s executives seem to state, and seriously think that you will believe that, for slot players, you have a chance at up to 50X points, and the video poker players can score up to 30X points. This is a total BULL$#(} lie and it should be viewed as just that by the Nevada Gaming Control Board. As all players will notice, when you are at the kiosk to swipe for your multiplier for that day, you choose one of six icons and your multiplier amount is revealed. For the video poker players, the possible results of your swipe are 4X, 5X, 6X, 10X, 15X, or 30X points. To further perpetrate the lie that Sam’s is telling you, when your multiplier is revealed, you also get a quick screenshot that will show what multiplier each of the other five icons had hidden under them. More CRAP lies from Sam’s. Even my hillbilly Rocky Mount math tells me that if you have one each of the six choices that I mentioned, that total up to the number 70, and divide by 6, that would leave you with a number that should, over the course of time, average about 11.67X points for the long term. How many trials might be necessary for a 90 or 95 percent certainty level, I do not know, but what I do know and am pasting further down, are the results of every Wednesday that my wife and myself have played since Jan.1, 2014.

Cliff Notes First, 2014---There were 53 Wednesdays in 2014 as Jan. 1 was the first and they last day of the year, Dec. 31 was the 53rd, but with New Years Eve, Sam’s had no Young At Heart on that day, and we both played on 49 of them. For her, she had the following multipliers.: 5 days of 4X ,
40 days of 5X , 3 days of 6X, 1 day of 10X, and 1 day of 30X. My results were as follows: 6 days of 4X , 36 days of 5X , 2 days of 6X , 5 days of 10X.

For 2015—As of 8-12-2015, there have been 32 Wednesdays this year, and we have played on 31 of them, our mystery multiplier has averaged 6.2X points, which is more than 46% below what the average should be. She got 4 days of 4X, 17 days of 5X, 5 days of 6X, 1 day of 10X, and 3 days of 15X. I got 2 days of 4X, 18 days of 5X, 7 days of 6X, 1 day of 10X ,and 2 days of 15X.
From Jan. 1, 2014 to Aug. 12, 2015, there have been 84 Wednesdays that the YAH promotion has been offered at Sam’s and we both played on 80 of those days. Yeah, I know, I know, BADDD, BADDD, customers. After you have scrolled through my War And Peace sized Chart, I will inform you of an even bigger, and potentially profitable, MYSTERY that some of you may be able to take advantage of.

                                  MS. NUDGE NUDGE
Wed. Jan. 1 ‘14 NO PLAY NO PLAY
Wed. Jan. 8 ‘14 5X 4X
Wed. Jan. 15 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jan. 22 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jan. 29 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Feb. 5 ‘14 4X 5X
Wed. Feb. 12 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Feb. 19 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Feb. 26 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Mar. 5 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Mar. 12 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Mar. 19 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Mar. 26 ‘14 5X 4X
Wed. Apr. 2 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 9 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 16 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 23 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 30 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. May 7 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. May 14 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. May 21 ;14 5X 4X
Wed. May 28 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jun. 4 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jun. 11 ‘14 NO PLAY NO PLAY
Wed. Jun. 18 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jun. 25 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jul. 2 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jul. 9 ‘14 5X 6X
Wed. Jul. 16 ‘14 4X 5X
Wed. Jul. 23 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Jul. 30 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Aug. 6 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Aug. 13 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Aug. 20 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Aug. 27 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Sep. 3 ‘14 30X 4X
Wed. Sep. 10 ‘14 5X 4X
Wed. Sep. 17 ‘14 6X 5X
Wed. Sep. 24 ‘14 5X 5X

                                    MS. NUDGE NUDGE
Wed. Oct. 1 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Oct. 8 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Oct. 15 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Oct. 22 ‘14 5X 5X
Wed. Oct. 29 ‘14 5X 6X
Wed. Nov. 5 ‘14 4X 5X
Wed. Nov. 12 ‘14 4X 4X
Wed. Nov. 19 ‘14 5X 10X
Wed. Nov. 26 ‘14 10X 10X
Wed. Dec. 3 ‘14 4X 10X
Wed. Dec. 10 ‘14 6X 15X
Wed. Dec. 17 ‘14 6X 10X
Wed. Dec. 24 ‘14 5X 10X
Wed. Dec. 31 ‘14 N.A. N.A.
Wed. Jan. 7 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Jan. 14 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Jan. 21 ‘15 4X 6X
Wed. Jan. 28 ‘15 4X 5X
Wed. Feb. 4 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Feb. 11 ‘15 5X 4X
Wed. Feb. 18 ‘15 15X 15X
Wed. Feb. 25 ‘15 6X 5X
Wed. Mar. 4 ‘15 5X 4X
Wed. Mar. 11 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Mar. 18 ‘15 4X 6X
Wed. Mar. 25 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 1 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 8 ‘15 6X 6X
Wed. Apr. 15 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. Apr. 22 ‘15 4X 5X
Wed. Apr. 29 ‘15 6X 6X
Wed. May 6 ‘15 NO PLAY NO PLAY
Wed. May 13 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. May 20 ‘15 10X 10X
Wed. May 27 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. June 3 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. June 10 ‘15 15X 5X
Wed. June 17 ‘15 5X 15X
Wed. July 1 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. July 8 ‘15 6X 6X
Wed. July 15 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. July 22 ‘15 5X 6X
Wed. July 29 ‘15 15X 5X
Wed. Aug. 5 ‘15 6X 5X
Wed. Aug. 12 ‘15 5X 5X
Wed. June 24 ‘15 5X 6X

With a 1 in 7 legitimate shot, or slightly over a 16 and a half percent chance to pick each number multiplier, would it surprise the Sam’s suits that we are upset that on the 80 Wednesdays’ that we have played since the first of last year, the wife scored 5X as the kiosk pick on 57 of those tries, and for me a paltry 54 times. That would work out to 71.25% of the time for her and 67.5% of the time for me. Wonder how far down the path to Dementia that the Sam’s Town decision makers think that we have all travelled? As I mentioned the long term average multiplier should be around 11.67X points, then it does seem startiling that for the two of us combined, we only had multipliers greater than the average on 7 occasions out of 160 attempts ( 80 days X 2 people ). It’s a random my aunt fanny moment when you can clearly see that we are below the long term average more than 90% of the time. If I was truly this unlucky, I would find another hobby.

Now for the bigger MYSTERY that I spoke of earlier. Over the course of time, we have met current friends while playing at Sam’s Town and two of them, who I know keep accurate records, have both told me that they get a 10X multiplier or better about 90% of the time. Here’s the profit potential. Since Sam’s took out 8 of the 10 FPDW quarter machines that they had removed shortly after the first of the year, both of these players, who are older than 50 only play on YAH Wednesday. I don’t have any exact figures, but their estimates are that they are only doing about 1/3 to maybe 40 percent of what their former coin in used to be. As their main game was deuces, no surprise that they could go to two of Sam’s Henderson similar sized competitors, Boulder Station ( 14 FPDW machines) or Fiesta Henderson (11 machines) instead of an if come, potential fist fight choice of the only two machines at Sam’s. So, it looks to me like the old adage of “absence makes the heart grow fonder” which is likely referring to the feelings of your significant other, may also be true for Sam’s Town’s attitude towards you as a player if you curtail a big percentage of your play there and go play elsewhere. Then your plan would be to only play the one day a week on Wednesday if you are one of us ancient decrepit folks, and even if you are already an Emerald cardholder like both of us, the normal 3X points earned any day should be dwarfed by the 10 or more times that Sam’s will likely give you because they miss you. The monthly coin in that we do at Sam’s Town averages over $170,000 per month for each of us. Our card score on the machine display is always well over 1,000,000. Looked at my total up through end of July, and it is 1,214,622, so I am on pace to be over 2 MILLION points for this year. So using their form of Casino “logic”, if I lop off two thirds of my play, my not so scientific study seems to strongly indicate that Sam’s Town will substantially increase our cash back percentage when we go to redeem our points so they can rewarduse for NOT playing there as much as we do now. Also, I am curious if any members have noticed similar strangeness at the other three Boyd B-DIS-connected properties, Suncoast, Gold Coast, and the Orleans. If so, please fill us in.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Nudge

I am considering a number of subject lines for what may be many posts about these properties, such as “Blundering Boyd Brilliance Blog” or for my home casino, “Sam’s St00pidy defies Sanity”, or similar catchiness. Any suggestions, please shoot me a note. Today, I would like to delve into Sam’s most recent st00pid move, which was in the month of August,2015, To add in the casino version of movie comedy, a la Dumb And Dumber, they decided to make it available to all of us old farts that are 50 and older, and it was to be the highly publicized and totally misleading MYSTERY multiplier on Young At Heart Wednesdays, where slot players can get “up to” 50X points, and video poker players could receive “up to” 30X points each Wednesday that they play.

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#2

Since Sam’s took out 8 of the 10 FPDW quarter machines that they had removed shortly after the first of the year, both of these players, who are older than 50 only play on YAH Wednesday.

Are you saying that Sam's Town would make more money if it attracted
more people to play FPDW?

#3

No, I do not believe that I stated anything in my original post that putting
the machines back in to attract more people to play them would make Sam's
Town more money. First off, mathematics is what guarantees that all casinos
on this planet make money. Location of a casino is certainly also a factor, as that
is usually a big contributor to the financial health of a large chunk of your
clientele, and in recent years the neighborhood that this casino is in has been
going the wrong way economically speaking. Before addressing the question that
you asked, let me state that I fervently hope that any casino that I choose to play
in make's boatloads of money every quarter, including Sam's Town. If done on a consistent basis, increases
in revenue in profits will usually be a positive for all intelligent players and leads me to
believe that the operation is doing a whole lot more things right than it is doing wrong.
My thoughts about the current management team at Sam's Town is the reverse of what I
just stated above, and I do not believe that the management people that Boyd has in place at
this casino has the gaming knowledge or skillset to post good numbers with any
consistency. All that said, I do not believe that putting the FPDW machines back
in place will make Sam's Town more money, I absolutely, definitely, and passionately
believe that it will. I will try tonight when I get back home to compile some
numbers and observations to state the reasons why.
Nudge

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From: 007 007@embarqmail.com [vpFREE]
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 5:01 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sam's Town Mystery My Aunt F( )<#!*g Fanny

Since Sam’s took out 8 of the 10 FPDW quarter machines that they had removed shortly after the first of the year, both of these players, who are older than 50 only play on YAH Wednesday.

Are you saying that Sam's Town would make more money if it attracted
more people to play FPDW?

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#4

Sam's Town is a regular stop on my 2 to 3 times a year Vegas tour along with MSS. I agree with nudge that something has come down from up above to remove the higher EV machines. First the 9/6 draw up stairs and now the FPDW by Dunkin Doughnuts. The economy has improved so maybe the Exes want an increase in the bottom line. Running off customers will not work unless they are being replaced by new players that don't have a clue about what the payscale means. Not likely on Boulder Hwy.

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#5

Running off customers will not work unless they are being replaced by new players that don't have a clue about what the payscale means. Not likely on Boulder Hwy.

I don't understand these strong opinions by those who don't run
casinos about what will make a casino profitable, only based on the
fact that it took out machines that we want to play or didn't give the
point multipliers that we want. The Plaza had a great promotion for
more than a year that I played heavily. Since they stopped it, it
looks more like a ghost town to me, but the only basis on which I'd
form an opinion about which was more profitable to them is what they
ended up doing. I assume they know better than I do what is
profitable for them. I suspect those who say that casinos hurt
themselves by hurting us are just reacting emotionally and have no
evidence to support what they're saying.

#6

Hi 007,

"assume they know better than I do which is more profitable."
"no evidence to support"

I will respectively submit "evidence to support" proof one casino group managed by morons.
Caesars Entertainment Bankruptcy. We might argue it's a plan to rip off a gang of
creditors and shed a lot of debt. Thus, making it a shrewd business move.

Sending customers down the road is never good. How many here left their properties.
The ultimate complaint is no complaint at all.

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#7

Sending customers down the road is never good.

If those customers cost them money, it is.

#8

Guess I'm the biggest "moron" of all (see post below) ... last year I earned over a half million CZR TR tier points. I've surpassed that already this year and am on my way to a solid mil this year ...

(actually, I prefer to think I simply grasp what to do with a lemon ...)

---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <whitejeeps@...> wrote :

I will respectively submit "evidence to support" proof one casino group managed by morons.
Caesars Entertainment Bankruptcy. We might argue it's a plan to rip off a gang of
creditors and shed a lot of debt. Thus, making it a shrewd business move.

Sending customers down the road is never good. How many here left their properties.
The ultimate complaint is no complaint at all.

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#9

GREAT WORK, Nudge! One question, have you been in touch with the Gaming Control Board? It seems that the YAH promotion IS gambling. The customer is investing their time and money to get to the property and the property is getting what they want, your presence at the casino. While we are not putting money into a machine we are still providing value in return for a chance to get a high point multiplier. If we are not getting a fair chance at that high multiplier I would think the control board could get involved.

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#10

I share your frustration in the "mystery multiplier", but most of your issue here is a result of your assumption that the multipliers are randomly assigned. I don't believe that is stated to be the case in their terms and conditions, and even without any of this discussion, I always assumed the multipliers wouldn't be random nor all multipliers equally likely. Why would you assume that all the multipliers were equal or close to equally likely to be assigned to your selection? Your data doesn't surprise me at all. I just don't see any wrongdoing by Sam's. Perhaps shaming them by exposing this data might help change things by making this information widely known.

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#11

Perhaps "shaming" them by exposing this data might help them say the heck with it and pull the whole promo. I wouldn't blame them.

---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <caribou321@...> wrote :

  Perhaps shaming them by exposing this data might help change things by making this information widely known.

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#12

The assumption that the point multipiers are randomly assigned is a very important issue here. The answer is in the game presented itself. The screen shows 6 boxes that you can select any one of, it certainly appears that which box you select matters and is a part of the game. If the choices are put into the boxes before you select then you would expect a 1 in 6 chance to get each choice. If what you get is pre determined then the game is a sham...the game is really a scratch off ticket and the entire pretext of your choice is meaningless. The fact is that the game appears as a game of chance, one you have invested time, energy, and money to come and play. It seems deciteful to me for it to be anything but a true game of chance. Of note, on thursday Suncoast has a similar promotion that everyone can qualify for and is advertised as up to 50x points just like YAH days. When you push the button for your multiplier you just are assigned that multiplier, no choosing boxes required. Why are the 2 promotions handled differently?

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#13

It's probably as random as a slot machine. In a slot machine what you end up with on a spin is as random as a computer can make it. That of course does not mean that all outcomes have an equal chance of showing up, there are many more non paying combinations than paying combinations.

The Boyd promotion can be set up as follows.

The computer program for this feature has let's say 1,000 individual multiplier numbers, and they consist of 700 3x multipliers 200 4x multipliers, 90 10x multipliers and 10 50x multipliers. You swipe your card and the system picks 6 symbols totally at random from the 1,000 in the table, you then pick one of the 6 symbols. Odds are kind of high that you will always get a 3x or a 4x, but you do have a shot at the 50x and some people will hit it.

The game is totally legitimate in this scenario and totally random. All slot machines work the same way. To expect better from a casino is not really a realistic expectation. For myself I'd rather just see them give everybody the same multiplier and get rid of the B.S., but my guess is that the majority of customers prefer the element of chance.

Regards
A.P.

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From: "toddgone@aol.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:28 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Sam's Town Mystery My Aunt F( )<#!*g Fanny

The assumption that the point multipiers are randomly assigned is a very important issue here. The answer is in the game presented itself. The screen shows 6 boxes that you can select any one of, it certainly appears that which box you select matters and is a part of the game. If the choices are put into the boxes before you select then you would expect a 1 in 6 chance to get each choice. If what you get is pre determined then the game is a sham...the game is really a scratch off ticket and the entire pretext of your choice is meaningless. The fact is that the game appears as a game of chance, one you have invested time, energy, and money to come and play. It seems deciteful to me for it to be anything but a true game of chance. Of note, on thursday Suncoast has a similar promotion that everyone can qualify for and is advertised as up to 50x points just like YAH days. When you push the button for your multiplier you just are assigned that multiplier, no choosing boxes required. Why are the 2 promotions handled differently?

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#14

Your explaination Caribou is very well thought out but inaccurate. I have taken videos of each try of mine and my wife playing the YAH multipier game. I can assure you that behind each box are all the possiblities of multipliers from 4x to 30X for video poker. (now 4x to 10x at suncoast). Each try there is the box that shows the highest multiplier possible so at sams town you would expect to get the 30x points every 6th week on average. Clearly this doesn't happen so the game appears very misleading to me and perhaps something the gambling control board could look into. The game APPEARS to be a game of chance on it's surface but in reality it seems to me to be a scratch off.

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#15

It's probably as random as a slot machine. In a slot machine what you end up with on a spin is as random as a computer can make it. -- Albert

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That's true.

There is a large literature out there on the general topic of randomness. Algorithmic RNGs suffice for most computer gaming. Physics people, who get anal about this, point out that using an algorithmic RNG is "living in sin". It is my opinion that any departure from pure randomness (whatever that might be) by VP RNGs don't have an effect you would notice.

Some years ago I developed a physical RNG, and was sent to the IGT factory in Reno to talk about it. It was an interesting afternoon. One thing I learned that I didn't know: In between plays, the machine's RNG free runs (shuffling the deck so to speak). When you hit the deal button, a snapshot of the RNG is taken and used. So, you are taking a (time) random sample out of a (pseudo) random process.

I don't know for a fact one way or the other if IGT ever converted to physical RNGs. I personally don't think it matters a whole lot.

- - Norma

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#16

I agree completely.

Regards
A.P.

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From: "normagirl9@yahoo.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Sam's Town Mystery My Aunt F( )<#!*g Fanny

It's probably as random as a slot machine. In a slot machine what you end up with on a spin is as random as a computer can make it. -- Albert

That's true.

There is a large literature out there on the general topic of randomness. Algorithmic RNGs suffice for most computer gaming. Physics people, who get anal about this, point out that using an algorithmic RNG is "living in sin". It is my opinion that any departure from pure randomness (whatever that might be) by VP RNGs don't have an effect you would notice.

Some years ago I developed a physical RNG, and was sent to the IGT factory in Reno to talk about it. It was an interesting afternoon. One thing I learned that I didn't know: In between plays, the machine's RNG free runs (shuffling the deck so to speak). When you hit the deal button, a snapshot of the RNG is taken and used. So, you are taking a (time) random sample out of a (pseudo) random process.

I don't know for a fact one way or the other if IGT ever converted to physical RNGs. I personally don't think it matters a whole lot.

- - Norma

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#17

toddr, I fail to see what you have shown to show that what I said was "inaccurate". Having a picture showing all the available choices on the result screen does nothing to disprove what I have posted. Yes, as you say, this is the equivalent of a scratch off. Once again, I will say, the multiplier results are not equally likely. Just because there are 6 (or however many) multipliers on the screen at the end of the game, doesn't mean you had an equal chance of selecting each value.

As others have said. This game is not gambling. Its a promotion. It's not equally random for all multipliers nor should it be expected to be.

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#18

So tell me, now that we have determined that Boyd gaming kiosks are NOT run with a RNG and the consensus is that it is legal because it is a promotion and not a gambling machine. How anyone have any confidence it Boyd Gaming virtual drawings where you accumulate virtual entries into a virtual drum and then the "computer" selects winners. The same arguements as they relate to kiosks seem to apply to these promotional drawings. Any thoughts here?

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#19

The big difference here is that they state that the drawings are based on your entries when they say that it is a virtual drawing. They are simulating the same result as the old tickets in a drum, In the kiosk game they don't mention anything about how the game is played. I have been picked enough times on virtual drawings at Boyd properties that I have no concerns whatsoever on their legitimacy. If you could prove otherwise on a promotion like this then I believe you would have a legitimate case to be prosecuted.

Regards
A.P.

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 2:33 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Sam's Town Mystery My Aunt F( )<#!*g Fanny

So tell me, now that we have determined that Boyd gaming kiosks are NOT run with a RNG and the consensus is that it is legal because it is a promotion and not a gambling machine. How anyone have any confidence it Boyd Gaming virtual drawings where you accumulate virtual entries into a virtual drum and then the "computer" selects winners. The same arguements as they relate to kiosks seem to apply to these promotional drawings. Any thoughts here?

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#20

A.P....Glad you responded. It seems to me that when 6 choices are presented it appears as a choice you have to make among 6 specific outcomes that is not pre determined. Just like a virtual drawing appears will be randomly selected with all entries given equal chance and no winner pre determined. I have no idea what would keep Boyd from selecting who they want to win and make sure that entry is "selected" Prehaps since you have won often you are one of the lucky ones who they have determined should win more than the number of entries you have in the hopper would warrant.
The point is if a company will show a fictional game as random what is to keep them from doing that with other promotional games? How in the world do you really know that they are simulating a real drum virtually? Proving it is not random would be MUCH hard or impossible as compared with the YAH multiplier game which is very easy to prove. HOw difficult it is to prove an unfair game is occuring in the virtual drawing only increases the chance that they are per selecting winners...if they do it (as they clearly do) with the YAH game when it is easy to prove it is hard to believe they would not see the drawing as a way to reward who they want to reward.

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