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Rumsfeld FINALLY tells the TRUTH

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:

> Not in the slightest. It's intended to depict that you were a

loser in life back then, and there's been no progress since.

>
> It's more than obvious from your replies that you were

NEVER "cool" and most likely the victim of this little stunt (or
similar ones). Maybe if you just GOT OVER IT you could make progress
in your life. You really need

to see that shrink ...

That progress is what gets to you about me.

>
> You do get kind of wordy defensively once I hit the mark.....

I'm still waiting for you to "hit the mark" ONE time. So far

you've been shut out which really isn't too much of a surprise. I
suspect I'm much closer to the truth here than you'd like to admit.

More NO NO NO's. Whining and crying again. Do you ever tire of
looking the part of the fool??

I already told you I HAVE FUN. What is your definition of

recreation? I know, I know, anything that is NOT gambling. In
addition, when I retired I did not necessarily give up making a few
extra bucks. So, I've done some consulting and did some gambling..
Both have been successful. To a loser like yourself, I suspect that
really grates at you.

More wordy and meaningless ramble. Here's a flash. Everyone has FUN
playing vp at certain times. That doesn't mean most players and
probably every single so-called advantage player isn't controlled by
the game in a negative way. And that's exactly the image you portray
here.

That's a joke, right? I wouldn't read a single sentence on your

site. You've proven to be an imbicile right here, I don't need to
see any more of your ridiculous babble.

You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber. You read
my site almost on a daily basis.

> Those who blab about their play all the
> time, those who claim to be promotion-chasing zombies, those who
brag about a simple $5k win

No bragging here. I simply answered your assertion that I always

lose.If you don't want to hear the truth, then quit making absurd,
moronic assumptions about things you know nothing about. Wait, that
would be the end of your VP writing now, wouldn't it?

You have the need to blab whenever you hit something that's worthy
in your mind of bragging about--just like every loser on earth. Then
you go silent until another jackpot comes along. Problem is--it
doesn't impress me or anyone, even if you make up a scenario in your
sanitized mind that it does.

> when it means nothing to anyone other than
> them as they comfort themselves from untold losses.....THOSE are
the people who are the addicts of the video-poker playing world.

And there are many just like you.

I see, the hundreds of successful advantage players really grate

on you also. I'll add this one to your never-ending list of idiotic

unproven assertions.

And the question comes up again--one which you never have answered.
Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful advantage
players' anywhere. You can only offer more geek-conjecture....or a
statement maybe from one of your 'successful' friends (if you have
any), who so obviously use a $3.88 lunch to come out to be a
theoretical $768 in value in order to make it all seem positive.

  
> There's that whining defense posture again! If you didn't care

you wouldn't be crying about it when I say it.

In a previous paragraph you claim I'm bragging, now you claim I'm
whinning. You can't tell the difference, can you? Probably because
you brag with nothing to back it up and you've been a whining

loser all your life.

If you had any intelligence, you'd know a loser like you can easily
do both in order to cover your tracks and make an attempt at having
at least some public dignity. Once again, your feeble efforts have
failed you in your quest.

> Actually, it could very well be that I'm the best at numbers
> since I win more than anyone in video poker. Kind of takes that
self-made crown off your head...

Nope. Given your track record of lying I wouldn't believe a single
thing you say about your winnings. But even if you've managed to

stay on the LUCKY side for a while, I don't really care. The only
reason I respond is your idiotic claims that ANYONE can win using
your worthless progression. Have I mentioned that before???

You respond because you're fascinated with my expertise, you're
extremely bored with life (not uncommon with geezers with a
pathological gambling problem who can only look back at the years
when you meant more to society than you obviously do now), and you
can't play video poker every waking moment. Have I mentioned THAT
before, professor???

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:
>
> I already told you I HAVE FUN. What is your definition of
recreation? I know, I know, anything that is NOT gambling. In
addition, when I retired I did not necessarily give up making a few
extra bucks. So, I've done some consulting and did some gambling..
Both have been successful. To a loser like yourself, I suspect that
really grates at you.

More wordy and meaningless ramble.

Why do you always like to call the TRUTH "ramble"? I suppose it is
simply more evidence that you are a fraud.

Here's a flash. Everyone has FUN
playing vp at certain times.

You wouldn't know this from most of your posts. Try repeating it
several more times until it sinks in. VP can be fun. VP can be fun.
VP can be fun.

The fact is, advantage VP is similar to a lot jobs. Some fun times,
some not so fun, some boring... That's why I limit my time gambling
to what I enjoy and include other activities in my lifestyle.
Naturally, you want to downplay this so you can call all advantage
players addicts and continue to push your fraudulent system. It's all
an obvious part of your scam.

That doesn't mean most players and
probably every single so-called advantage player isn't controlled

by

the game in a negative way.

It doesn't mean they are "controlled" by it either. One more unproven
assertion from the bigL. Can you back your statement up? Of course
not. It's just another lie you use to perpetuate your scam.

And that's exactly the image you portray
here.

Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from it and
enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots, doesn't it?

>
> That's a joke, right? I wouldn't read a single sentence on your
site. You've proven to be an imbicile right here, I don't need to
see any more of your ridiculous babble.

You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber. You

read

my site almost on a daily basis.

Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you. To have
someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.

>
> > Those who blab about their play all the
> > time, those who claim to be promotion-chasing zombies, those

who

> brag about a simple $5k win
>
> No bragging here. I simply answered your assertion that I always
lose.If you don't want to hear the truth, then quit making absurd,
moronic assumptions about things you know nothing about. Wait, that
would be the end of your VP writing now, wouldn't it?

You have the need to blab whenever you hit something that's worthy
in your mind of bragging about--just like every loser on earth.

I think monkey boy just described his own writings. ROTFLMAO.

Then
you go silent until another jackpot comes along. Problem is--it
doesn't impress me or anyone, even if you make up a scenario in

your

sanitized mind that it does.

More self-describing info. Just remember who the monkey boy is and
you'll get along just fine.

>
> > when it means nothing to anyone other than
> > them as they comfort themselves from untold losses.....THOSE

are

> the people who are the addicts of the video-poker playing world.
And there are many just like you.
>
> I see, the hundreds of successful advantage players really grate
on you also. I'll add this one to your never-ending list of idiotic
> unproven assertions.

And the question comes up again--one which you never have answered.
Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful advantage
players' anywhere.

Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and see for
yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for it since it
would hit right at the heart of your scam.

You can only offer more geek-conjecture....or a
statement maybe from one of your 'successful' friends (if you have
any), who so obviously use a $3.88 lunch to come out to be a
theoretical $768 in value in order to make it all seem positive.

You haven't a clue do you? It's quite easy to find plays of OVER 101%
that don't require a free lunch. The lunches are just a fringe
benefit. I played two games at OVER 102% in the last week alone. In
one case a progressive got quite high with a promotion for added
value. In anther case the CASH value of the play was at 102%. You
think this is all a come-on? ... I won a prize in the promotion and
came out way ahead in my playing.

By the way, if you don't want me to provide this kind of evidence
that refutes your idiotic assertions, then quit making them in the
first place.

>
> > There's that whining defense posture again! If you didn't care
you wouldn't be crying about it when I say it.
>
> In a previous paragraph you claim I'm bragging, now you claim I'm
> whinning. You can't tell the difference, can you? Probably

because

> you brag with nothing to back it up and you've been a whining
loser all your life.

If you had any intelligence, you'd know a loser like you can easily
do both in order to cover your tracks and make an attempt at having
at least some public dignity. Once again, your feeble efforts have
failed you in your quest.

Kind of hard to backtrack now, isn't it. I got you AGAIN and your
worthless words do nothing to hide that fact.

>
> > Actually, it could very well be that I'm the best at numbers
> > since I win more than anyone in video poker. Kind of takes that
> self-made crown off your head...
>
> Nope. Given your track record of lying I wouldn't believe a

single

> thing you say about your winnings. But even if you've managed to
stay on the LUCKY side for a while, I don't really care. The only
reason I respond is your idiotic claims that ANYONE can win using
your worthless progression. Have I mentioned that before???

You respond because you're fascinated with my expertise,

NOT. You have no expertise as I have already proven. Try to remember
that an expert is someone who has earned that position. Doesn't work
to beat your chest and babble "I'm and expert". Sorry, monkey boy.

you're
extremely bored with life (not uncommon with geezers with a
pathological gambling problem who can only look back at the years
when you meant more to society than you obviously do now), and you
can't play video poker every waking moment. Have I mentioned THAT
before, professor???

Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey boy
rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through your
scam.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:

> > I already told you I HAVE FUN. What is your definition of
> recreation? I know, I know, anything that is NOT gambling. In
> addition, when I retired I did not necessarily give up making a

few extra bucks. So, I've done some consulting and did some
gambling.. Both have been successful. To a loser like yourself, I
suspect that really grates at you.

More wordy and meaningless ramble. You'l say anything to negate the
problem you have with going to casinos so often---and then staying
in them far too long for your own good. Maybe you should have stuck
with consulting only. Then you wouldn't have to endure this ridicule
from me. (although geek-consultants don't really have much to offer
the new generation).

Why do you always like to call the TRUTH "ramble"? I suppose it is
simply more evidence that you are a fraud.

Because you make believe so often that you end up rambling on
whenever I challenge you with common sense! Duh!!

> Here's a flash. Everyone has FUN
> playing vp at certain times.

You wouldn't know this from most of your posts. Try repeating it
several more times until it sinks in. VP can be fun. VP can be

fun. VP can be fun.

I teach players of your type how to have fun ALL the time when they
play. If you waste your life away playing as some type of mythical
advantae player and lose at least 70% of your sessions, it's only a
driven compulsion that makes you continue to play when you know you
shouldn't.

> That doesn't mean most players and probably every single so-

called advantage player isn't controlled by the game in a negative
way.

It doesn't mean they are "controlled" by it either. One more

unproven assertion from the bigL. Can you back your statement up? Of
course not. It's just another lie you use to perpetuate your scam.

I can back it up with far more than you've even input here. I have
the past experience as one of you loser long-term strategy players
that proves what I'm saying. I've been on your side of the street,
and I know how difficult it is for you to admit ANYTHING. Denial is
now a huge part of your life. Making things up is another. They work
hand-in-hand in order to justify that continued play you say is fun
but we all know it is not.

Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from it and
enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots, doesn't

it?

Where's your proof? Go ahead, show me. The truth is most of them
contact me for help. You will also someday. All your statement is is
another weak reason to justify your playing far too much for your
own good. Making believe there are 'hundreds of advantage winners'
out there is the same thing the Queen and Dancer and Skip hughes say
to sell all that junk they peddle. You want proof of a scam? Talk to
them.

> You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber. You
read my site almost on a daily basis.

Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you. To

have someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.

Anyone who talks to me this often holds me in high esteem. You won't
admit it, but jealousy is what keeps you coming back for more, and
it's the same catalyst for you to go straight to my site almost
daily.

> You have the need to blab whenever you hit something that's

worthy in your mind of bragging about--just like every loser on
earth.

I think monkey boy just described his own writings. ROTFLMAO.

So you haven't read some of my latest articles??

> And the question comes up again--one which you never have

answered. Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful
advantage players' anywhere.

Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and see

for yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for it
since it would hit right at the heart of your scam.

I asked for proof--not some poll taken of a bunch of wannabee
winning players like you. You'd believe anything that fits inside
your slide rule case. Problem is, there's no common sense in there
with it.

> You can only offer more geek-conjecture....or a
> statement maybe from one of your 'successful' friends (if you

have any), who so obviously use a $3.88 lunch to come out to be a

> theoretical $768 in value in order to make it all seem positive.

You haven't a clue do you? It's quite easy to find plays of OVER

101% that don't require a free lunch. The lunches are just a fringe

benefit.

That's such a foolish statement and you know it. So what - and who
cares about 101% or 103% or even 96%?? Anything can happen at any
time. Those so-called 'positive plays' are there just to get money
from fool players like you. You'll play them for hours n end
thinking you're pulling some sort of wool over the casino manager's
eyes. And he always has the last laugh.

I played two games at OVER 102% in the last week alone. In one case
a progressive got quite high with a promotion for added

value. In anther case the CASH value of the play was at 102%. You
think this is all a come-on? ... I won a prize in the promotion

and came out way ahead in my playing.

Whoopie Do!! Goody. And what of the other idiot advantage players
who did not win a prize?? And what if you did not win a little cash
that day--like happens over 70% of the time?

> If you had any intelligence, you'd know a loser like you can

easily do both in order to cover your tracks and make an attempt at
having at least some public dignity. Once again, your feeble efforts
have failed you in your quest.

Kind of hard to backtrack now, isn't it. I got you AGAIN and your
worthless words do nothing to hide that fact.

again, no answer in the dignity dept. You're kind of feeling the
pinch of being an overly addicted video poker player right now, go
ahead and admit it. That's what dignity is all about--not story-
telling.

> you're extremely bored with life (not uncommon with geezers with

a pathological gambling problem who can only look back at the years

> when you meant more to society than you obviously do now), and

you can't play video poker every waking moment. Have I mentioned
THAT before, professor???

Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey boy
rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through

your scam.

Gee, nice answer. You get made a fool of once again and you can't
figure out how or why. Kind of like having your pants pulled down in
the girls gym like you've experienced before, correct?

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:
>
> > > I already told you I HAVE FUN. What is your definition of
> > recreation? I know, I know, anything that is NOT gambling. In
> > addition, when I retired I did not necessarily give up making a
few extra bucks. So, I've done some consulting and did some
gambling.. Both have been successful. To a loser like yourself, I
suspect that really grates at you.

More wordy and meaningless ramble. You'l say anything to negate the
problem you have with going to casinos so often---and then staying
in them far too long for your own good.

Wrong again monkey boy. I do spend quite a bit of time in Casinos.
I'll readily admit that. It's intentional if you hadn't already
figured that out. So far, they've been very good for me.

Maybe you should have stuck
with consulting only. Then you wouldn't have to endure this

ridicule

from me. (although geek-consultants don't really have much to offer
the new generation).

You ridicule means nothing. All one has to do is consider the source.
I just get a kick out of proving you wrong time and time again. If
you weren't so stupid you would realize that the only thing you
accomplish through your ridicule is to look more foolish every time.

>
> > Here's a flash. Everyone has FUN
> > playing vp at certain times.
>
> You wouldn't know this from most of your posts. Try repeating it
> several more times until it sinks in. VP can be fun. VP can be
fun. VP can be fun.

I teach players of your type how to have fun ALL the time when they
play. If you waste your life away playing as some type of mythical
advantae player and lose at least 70% of your sessions, it's only a
driven compulsion that makes you continue to play when you know you
shouldn't.

More BS from the monkey boy.

>
> > That doesn't mean most players and probably every single so-
called advantage player isn't controlled by the game in a negative
way.
>
> It doesn't mean they are "controlled" by it either. One more
unproven assertion from the bigL. Can you back your statement up?

Of

course not. It's just another lie you use to perpetuate your scam.

I can back it up with far more than you've even input here. I have
the past experience as one of you loser long-term strategy players
that proves what I'm saying.

The fact that you lost is proof? This is the best you can do? What a
monumental JOKE you are. You've already shown in this discusion you
really don't understand how to make advantage play work and now your
OWN personal failure is proof that no one can make it work. ROTFLMAO.

I've been on your side of the street,

No, you haven't. You probably thought you were, but given your
complete stupidity when it comes to understanding VP, it very clear
you had no clue.

and I know how difficult it is for you to admit ANYTHING. Denial is
now a huge part of your life. Making things up is another. They

work

hand-in-hand in order to justify that continued play you say is fun
but we all know it is not.

Not one single bit of denial has flowed from my responses. I provide
you with fact after fact which you can't accept because of your own
failures. Well, I hate to break it to you, but I have been and am NOW
very successful at gambling. I don't need to "make up" one single
thing.

>
> Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
> hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from it

and

> enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots, doesn't
it?

Where's your proof? Go ahead, show me. The truth is most of them
contact me for help.

I already asked you to name them and, surprise, surprise you couldn't
name a single one. Still can't I suspect.

You will also someday.

Another one of your fantasies? Don't hold your breath. On second
thought, go ahead and hold it.

>
> > You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber. You
> read my site almost on a daily basis.
>
> Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you. To
have someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.

Anyone who talks to me this often holds me in high esteem.

Not likely monkey boy. I see you're into oxymorons gains.

You won't
admit it, but jealousy is what keeps you coming back for more, and
it's the same catalyst for you to go straight to my site almost
daily.

Do you get off with these fantasies. You are such a joke.

>
> > You have the need to blab whenever you hit something that's
worthy in your mind of bragging about--just like every loser on
earth.
>
> I think monkey boy just described his own writings. ROTFLMAO.

So you haven't read some of my latest articles??

Never have, never will. I've seen enough here to know what you write.
Same BS.

>
> > And the question comes up again--one which you never have
answered. Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful
advantage players' anywhere.
>
> Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and see
for yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for it
since it would hit right at the heart of your scam.

I asked for proof--not some poll taken of a bunch of wannabee
winning players like you. You'd believe anything that fits inside
your slide rule case. Problem is, there's no common sense in there
with it.

Like I said "you'd NEVER accept anyones' word".

>
> > You can only offer more geek-conjecture....or a
> > statement maybe from one of your 'successful' friends (if you
have any), who so obviously use a $3.88 lunch to come out to be a
> > theoretical $768 in value in order to make it all seem positive.
>
> You haven't a clue do you? It's quite easy to find plays of OVER
101% that don't require a free lunch. The lunches are just a fringe
> benefit.

That's such a foolish statement and you know it. So what - and who
cares about 101% or 103% or even 96%?? Anything can happen at any
time. Those so-called 'positive plays' are there just to get money
from fool players like you. You'll play them for hours n end
thinking you're pulling some sort of wool over the casino manager's
eyes. And he always has the last laugh.

I suspect when you entered the door that the casino managers eyes
really did get quite large. Not true for those of us who know what
were doing.

I played two games at OVER 102% in the last week alone. In one

case

a progressive got quite high with a promotion for added
> value. In anther case the CASH value of the play was at 102%. You
> think this is all a come-on? ... I won a prize in the promotion
and came out way ahead in my playing.

Whoopie Do!! Goody. And what of the other idiot advantage players
who did not win a prize?? And what if you did not win a little cash
that day--like happens over 70% of the time?

I agree with one thing in this response. It really doesn't matter
what happens on "that day". That's because it's over time that the
profits accrue. You can't accept this because of your own failures.
I've had a great two month run. Everything I've mentioned is the
absolute truth. However, I realize that I will also hit some bad
streaks along the way. In fact, I've mentioned a couple of them
previously. The bottom line is I'm way ahead and continue to move
farther ahead.

> > you're extremely bored with life (not uncommon with geezers

with

a pathological gambling problem who can only look back at the years
> > when you meant more to society than you obviously do now), and
you can't play video poker every waking moment. Have I mentioned
THAT before, professor???
>
> Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey boy
> rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through
your scam.

Gee, nice answer. You get made a fool of once again and you can't
figure out how or why. Kind of like having your pants pulled down

in

the girls gym like you've experienced before, correct?

More fantasies monkey boy? You really need to think about more
important things than your high school days which occurred OVER 30
years ago. Talk about looking like a fools' fool in this discussion.
I've proven that time and time again and you just supplied me with
even more ammunition. I'm not the least bit surprised that you'd
think otherwise. Your failures at the easy game of advantage VP
completely demonstrate your lack of intelligence.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
> wrote:

I think I remember reading that you play mostly in indian casinos.
You find full pay VP in them? And what games do you usually play?
Just curious.
In New Yorks Indian casinos the best you can find is 98% and then you
don't really know if they are random. I've been trying to find the
regulations fo NY with no success.

> >
> > > > I already told you I HAVE FUN. What is your definition of
> > > recreation? I know, I know, anything that is NOT gambling. In
> > > addition, when I retired I did not necessarily give up making

a

> few extra bucks. So, I've done some consulting and did some
> gambling.. Both have been successful. To a loser like yourself, I
> suspect that really grates at you.
>
> More wordy and meaningless ramble. You'l say anything to negate

the

> problem you have with going to casinos so often---and then

staying

> in them far too long for your own good.

Wrong again monkey boy. I do spend quite a bit of time in Casinos.
I'll readily admit that. It's intentional if you hadn't already
figured that out. So far, they've been very good for me.

> Maybe you should have stuck
> with consulting only. Then you wouldn't have to endure this
ridicule
> from me. (although geek-consultants don't really have much to

offer

> the new generation).

You ridicule means nothing. All one has to do is consider the

source.

I just get a kick out of proving you wrong time and time again. If
you weren't so stupid you would realize that the only thing you
accomplish through your ridicule is to look more foolish every time.

> >
> > > Here's a flash. Everyone has FUN
> > > playing vp at certain times.
> >
> > You wouldn't know this from most of your posts. Try repeating

it

> > several more times until it sinks in. VP can be fun. VP can be
> fun. VP can be fun.
>
> I teach players of your type how to have fun ALL the time when

they

> play. If you waste your life away playing as some type of

mythical

> advantae player and lose at least 70% of your sessions, it's only

a

> driven compulsion that makes you continue to play when you know

you

> shouldn't.

More BS from the monkey boy.

> >
> > > That doesn't mean most players and probably every single so-
> called advantage player isn't controlled by the game in a

negative

> way.
> >
> > It doesn't mean they are "controlled" by it either. One more
> unproven assertion from the bigL. Can you back your statement up?
Of
> course not. It's just another lie you use to perpetuate your scam.
>
> I can back it up with far more than you've even input here. I

have

> the past experience as one of you loser long-term strategy

players

> that proves what I'm saying.

The fact that you lost is proof? This is the best you can do? What

a

monumental JOKE you are. You've already shown in this discusion you
really don't understand how to make advantage play work and now

your

OWN personal failure is proof that no one can make it work.

ROTFLMAO.

> I've been on your side of the street,

No, you haven't. You probably thought you were, but given your
complete stupidity when it comes to understanding VP, it very clear
you had no clue.

> and I know how difficult it is for you to admit ANYTHING. Denial

is

> now a huge part of your life. Making things up is another. They
work
> hand-in-hand in order to justify that continued play you say is

fun

> but we all know it is not.

Not one single bit of denial has flowed from my responses. I

provide

you with fact after fact which you can't accept because of your own
failures. Well, I hate to break it to you, but I have been and am

NOW

very successful at gambling. I don't need to "make up" one single
thing.

> >
> > Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
> > hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from it
and
> > enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots,

doesn't

> it?
>
> Where's your proof? Go ahead, show me. The truth is most of them
> contact me for help.

I already asked you to name them and, surprise, surprise you

couldn't

name a single one. Still can't I suspect.

> You will also someday.

Another one of your fantasies? Don't hold your breath. On second
thought, go ahead and hold it.

> >
> > > You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber.

You

> > read my site almost on a daily basis.
> >
> > Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you. To
> have someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.
>
> Anyone who talks to me this often holds me in high esteem.

Not likely monkey boy. I see you're into oxymorons gains.

> You won't
> admit it, but jealousy is what keeps you coming back for more,

and

> it's the same catalyst for you to go straight to my site almost
> daily.

Do you get off with these fantasies. You are such a joke.

> >
> > > You have the need to blab whenever you hit something that's
> worthy in your mind of bragging about--just like every loser on
> earth.
> >
> > I think monkey boy just described his own writings. ROTFLMAO.
>
> So you haven't read some of my latest articles??

Never have, never will. I've seen enough here to know what you

write.

Same BS.

> >
> > > And the question comes up again--one which you never have
> answered. Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful
> advantage players' anywhere.
> >
> > Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and see
> for yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for it
> since it would hit right at the heart of your scam.
>
> I asked for proof--not some poll taken of a bunch of wannabee
> winning players like you. You'd believe anything that fits inside
> your slide rule case. Problem is, there's no common sense in

there

> with it.

Like I said "you'd NEVER accept anyones' word".

> >
> > > You can only offer more geek-conjecture....or a
> > > statement maybe from one of your 'successful' friends (if you
> have any), who so obviously use a $3.88 lunch to come out to be a
> > > theoretical $768 in value in order to make it all seem

positive.

> >
> > You haven't a clue do you? It's quite easy to find plays of

OVER

> 101% that don't require a free lunch. The lunches are just a

fringe

> > benefit.
>
> That's such a foolish statement and you know it. So what - and

who

> cares about 101% or 103% or even 96%?? Anything can happen at any
> time. Those so-called 'positive plays' are there just to get

money

> from fool players like you. You'll play them for hours n end
> thinking you're pulling some sort of wool over the casino

manager's

> eyes. And he always has the last laugh.

I suspect when you entered the door that the casino managers eyes
really did get quite large. Not true for those of us who know what
were doing.

>
> I played two games at OVER 102% in the last week alone. In one
case
> a progressive got quite high with a promotion for added
> > value. In anther case the CASH value of the play was at 102%.

You

> > think this is all a come-on? ... I won a prize in the promotion
> and came out way ahead in my playing.
>
> Whoopie Do!! Goody. And what of the other idiot advantage players
> who did not win a prize?? And what if you did not win a little

cash

> that day--like happens over 70% of the time?

I agree with one thing in this response. It really doesn't matter
what happens on "that day". That's because it's over time that the
profits accrue. You can't accept this because of your own failures.
I've had a great two month run. Everything I've mentioned is the
absolute truth. However, I realize that I will also hit some bad
streaks along the way. In fact, I've mentioned a couple of them
previously. The bottom line is I'm way ahead and continue to move
farther ahead.

>
> > > you're extremely bored with life (not uncommon with geezers
with
> a pathological gambling problem who can only look back at the

years

> > > when you meant more to society than you obviously do now),

and

> you can't play video poker every waking moment. Have I mentioned
> THAT before, professor???
> >
> > Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey

boy

> > rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through
> your scam.
>
> Gee, nice answer. You get made a fool of once again and you can't
> figure out how or why. Kind of like having your pants pulled down
in
> the girls gym like you've experienced before, correct?

More fantasies monkey boy? You really need to think about more
important things than your high school days which occurred OVER 30
years ago. Talk about looking like a fools' fool in this

discussion.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
I've proven that time and time again and you just supplied me with
even more ammunition. I'm not the least bit surprised that you'd
think otherwise. Your failures at the easy game of advantage VP
completely demonstrate your lack of intelligence.

> More wordy and meaningless ramble. You'l say anything to negate

the problem you have with going to casinos so often---and then
staying in them far too long for your own good.

Wrong again monkey boy. I do spend quite a bit of time in Casinos.
I'll readily admit that. It's intentional if you hadn't already
figured that out. So far, they've been very good for me.

So you're an admitted casino pawn. what else is new. Now get on the
part that has you spending all that time at the vp machines because
you are addicted to them.

> Maybe you should have stuck
> with consulting only. Then you wouldn't have to endure this
ridicule from me. (although geek-consultants don't really have much

to offer the new generation).

You ridicule means nothing. All one has to do is consider the

source.

I just get a kick out of proving you wrong time and time again. If
you weren't so stupid you would realize that the only thing you
accomplish through your ridicule is to look more foolish every time.

My ridicule bothers you. You are not a public figure and therefore
have no idea how to handle such truths when spoken about you. Denial
in video poker; denial here. A pair that'll beat a full house any
time of day.

> I teach players of your type how to have fun ALL the time when

they play. If you waste your life away playing as some type of
mythical advantage player and lose at least 70% of your sessions,
it's only a driven compulsion that makes you continue to play when
you know you shouldn't.

More BS from the monkey boy.

So I was right again. Big surprise.

The fact that you lost is proof? This is the best you can do? What

a monumental JOKE you are. You've already shown in this discusion you

really don't understand how to make advantage play work and now

your OWN personal failure is proof that no one can make it work.
ROTFLMAO.

No bozo, my own failure is proof that the SYSTEM you hang onto does
not work period. That's why the only of your group that wins after a
long period of messing with long-term strategy are the extremely
lucky, and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any type
of self-proclaimed skill.

> I've been on your side of the street,

No, you haven't. You probably thought you were, but given your
complete stupidity when it comes to understanding VP, it very clear
you had no clue.

More of your conjecture when you don't want to believe something
factual. What about those fortune 500 companies???

> and I know how difficult it is for you to admit ANYTHING. Denial

is now a huge part of your life. Making things up is another. They

work hand-in-hand in order to justify that continued play you say

is fun but we all know it is not.

Not one single bit of denial has flowed from my responses. I

provide

you with fact after fact which you can't accept because of your own
failures. Well, I hate to break it to you, but I have been and am

NOW very successful at gambling. I don't need to "make up" one single

thing.

Of course not, professor. Of course not...And BTW, if you were not
successful and couldn't stop playing, just what exactly is it that
you'd say?

> > Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
> > hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from it
and enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots,

doesn't it?

>
> Where's your proof? Go ahead, show me. The truth is most of them
> contact me for help.

I already asked you to name them and, surprise, surprise you

couldn't name a single one. Still can't I suspect.

> You will also someday.

Another one of your fantasies? Don't hold your breath. On second
thought, go ahead and hold it.

If I have to wait for proof, I'll need generation of liars to come
forth before you'd ever admit you were fooling yourself all along.

> > > You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber.

You read my site almost on a daily basis.

> >
> > Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you. To
> have someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.
>
> Anyone who talks to me this often holds me in high esteem.

Not likely monkey boy. I see you're into oxymorons gains.

And you get a thrill out of talking to someone more famous and more
successful that yourself. Would you like me to autograph one of your
brutely strong, weight-lift-reinforced popeye arms when you get here
with the just-as-mythical $700k?

  
> > > And the question comes up again--one which you never have
> answered. Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful
> advantage players' anywhere.
> >
> > Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and see
> for yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for it
> since it would hit right at the heart of your scam.
>
> I asked for proof--not some poll taken of a bunch of wannabee
> winning players like you. You'd believe anything that fits inside
> your slide rule case. Problem is, there's no common sense in

there with it.

Like I said "you'd NEVER accept anyones' word".

And like the word of a bunch of losing, mainly low-class video poker
players is gonna give you proof of anything. Just how thick are you
anyway?

> That's such a foolish statement and you know it. So what - and

who cares about 101% or 103% or even 96%?? Anything can happen at any

> time. Those so-called 'positive plays' are there just to get

money from fool players like you. You'll play them for hours n end

> thinking you're pulling some sort of wool over the casino

manager's eyes. And he always has the last laugh.

I suspect when you entered the door that the casino managers eyes
really did get quite large. Not true for those of us who know what
were doing.

If what you, the Queen, Dancer, Hughes, and a handful of others say
is true, then NO casino manager would ever let you or them in his
doors. That's top proof that they fear no advantage player because
none of them win. I know several hosts from other venues at two of
the more frequented 'positive-play' casinos in LV, and I've been able
to 'check up' on two of the most famous names that make you googly-
eyed. I'm sure you won't believe this, but one of them was losing
$170k by June 28th this year, and your other hero was behind over
$40k by Sept. 7th. Yet both of these 'superstars' give the impression
they win all the time. That's more than enough proof to verify what
i've been saying for 6 years. Of course you'll try to sweep it all
away by saying "But gee Rob, that's not enough data to know anything,
and it's only that they've unfortunately fallen onto the famous other
side of the stupid bell curve".

> Whoopie Do!! Goody. And what of the other idiot advantage players
> who did not win a prize?? And what if you did not win a little

cash that day--like happens over 70% of the time?

I agree with one thing in this response. It really doesn't matter
what happens on "that day". That's because it's over time that the
profits accrue.

And that's exactly why I always tell everyone that these promotions
were made solely for those who feel they are 'advantage players'.
It's a huge money-maker for the casinos. What do you think--that they
feel like giving away free money in promos? All that 'over time'
nonsense is exactly how the casino manager wants people like you to
think. It keeps them coming back for even more abuse, and the very
few times they actually leave with a profit only serve to wet the
addiction.

You can't accept this because of your own failures.

I've had a great two month run. Everything I've mentioned is the
absolute truth. However, I realize that I will also hit some bad
streaks along the way. In fact, I've mentioned a couple of them
previously. The bottom line is I'm way ahead and continue to move
farther ahead.

then I'll say what you do to me: you're simply on the 'other side' of
the bell curve, only you don't know how to properly and accurately
formulate that curve to show how people like you play.

  
> > Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey

boy rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through

> your scam.
>
> Gee, nice answer. You get made a fool of once again and you can't
> figure out how or why. Kind of like having your pants pulled down
in the girls gym like you've experienced before, correct?

More fantasies monkey boy? You really need to think about more
important things than your high school days which occurred OVER 30
years ago. Talk about looking like a fools' fool in this

discussion.

I've proven that time and time again and you just supplied me with
even more ammunition. I'm not the least bit surprised that you'd
think otherwise. Your failures at the easy game of advantage VP
completely demonstrate your lack of intelligence.

As the words flow..... A guy with a slide rule telling me I live in
my high school days....

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

98% and then you don't really know if they are random. I've been
trying to find the regulations fo NY with no success.

You'll likely view an answer from him similar to this:

1. You add in .004% for comps.
2. You add in .10% for cash back.
3. You add in .5% for casino host smiles and VIP-like attention.
4. You add in .6% because it all makes my wife happy.
5. You add in .2% because I only play during promotions and giveaways.
6. And on nice days, you throw in .02% for a sunny day.

Viola--We now have created a POSITIVE PLAY! Something all advantage
players do all the time!!

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

I think I remember reading that you play mostly in indian casinos.
You find full pay VP in them? And what games do you usually play?
Just curious.In New Yorks Indian casinos the best you can find is

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>
> > More wordy and meaningless ramble. You'l say anything to negate
the problem you have with going to casinos so often---and then
staying in them far too long for your own good.
>
> Wrong again monkey boy. I do spend quite a bit of time in

Casinos.

> I'll readily admit that. It's intentional if you hadn't already
> figured that out. So far, they've been very good for me.

So you're an admitted casino pawn. what else is new.

As long as I'm making money they can call me anything they want.
That's the part that really bugs you. You couldn't figure out how to
win so no one else could possibly win. Guess what? You're just as
wrong here as you are in pretty much ALL of your thinking.

>
> > Maybe you should have stuck
> > with consulting only. Then you wouldn't have to endure this
> ridicule from me. (although geek-consultants don't really have

much

to offer the new generation).
>
> You ridicule means nothing. All one has to do is consider the
source.
> I just get a kick out of proving you wrong time and time again.

If

> you weren't so stupid you would realize that the only thing you
> accomplish through your ridicule is to look more foolish every

time.

My ridicule bothers you.

ROTFLMAO.

You are not a public figure and therefore
have no idea how to handle such truths when spoken about you.

Denial

in video poker; denial here. A pair that'll beat a full house any
time of day.

Still laughing. You are such a moron. The funiest part is you don't
even get it.

>
> > I teach players of your type how to have fun ALL the time when
they play. If you waste your life away playing as some type of
mythical advantage player and lose at least 70% of your sessions,
it's only a driven compulsion that makes you continue to play when
you know you shouldn't.
>
> More BS from the monkey boy.

So I was right again. Big surprise.

No, but you don't like it when I tell you you're wrong all the time.
I thought I'd give you a break on this one. But you persist ... If
you had ANY knowledge about VP you'd know that session wins/losses
are a direct result of the game variance. You win more sessions when
you play high variance games. You lose more sessions when you play
low variance games. Of course, very few successful gamblers care
about individual sessions anyway. They care about the OVERALL
results. By the way, a progressive system based on high variance
games will result in more session wins as I've said before. What it
DOESN'T do is change the overall results as I've proven before.

>
> The fact that you lost is proof? This is the best you can do?

What

a monumental JOKE you are. You've already shown in this discusion

you

> really don't understand how to make advantage play work and now
your OWN personal failure is proof that no one can make it work.
ROTFLMAO.

No bozo, my own failure is proof that the SYSTEM you hang onto does
not work period.

That's what I said, bigL. You couldn't make it work so no one can.
Too bad you are 100% wrong as proved by the hundreds of successful
advantage players. This is really humerous. It completely
demonstrates how your EGO can't let you move on from your personal
failures. Is this another reason why you can't forget your HS years?

That's why the only of your group that wins after a
long period of messing with long-term strategy are the extremely
lucky, and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any type
of self-proclaimed skill.

More BS from a self-proclaimed loser. Get over it.

>
> > and I know how difficult it is for you to admit ANYTHING.

Denial

is now a huge part of your life. Making things up is another. They
> work hand-in-hand in order to justify that continued play you say
is fun but we all know it is not.
>
> Not one single bit of denial has flowed from my responses. I
provide
> you with fact after fact which you can't accept because of your

own

> failures. Well, I hate to break it to you, but I have been and am
NOW very successful at gambling. I don't need to "make up" one

single

> thing.

Of course not, professor. Of course not...And BTW, if you were not
successful and couldn't stop playing, just what exactly is it that
you'd say?

I wouldn't keep gambling if I wasn't successful. My ego does't
control my life like yours obviously does.

>
> > > Hardly. You just don't want to admit the TRUTH. That is, that
> > > hundreds of advantage players gamble regularly, profit from

it

> and enjoy it. This fact nails your scam right at its' roots,
doesn't it?
> >
> > Where's your proof? Go ahead, show me. The truth is most of

them

> > contact me for help.
>
> I already asked you to name them and, surprise, surprise you
couldn't name a single one. Still can't I suspect.
>
> > You will also someday.
>
> Another one of your fantasies? Don't hold your breath. On second
> thought, go ahead and hold it.

If I have to wait for proof, I'll need generation of liars to come
forth before you'd ever admit you were fooling yourself all along.

You have nothing better to add than this foolishness? You sound more
like a 3rd grader all the time.

>
> > > > You're not kidding anybody with your hide-and-seek blabber.
You read my site almost on a daily basis.
> > >
> > > Never have, never will. This must be a real fantasy for you.

To

> > have someone like myself reading your BS. Dream on.
> >
> > Anyone who talks to me this often holds me in high esteem.
>
> Not likely monkey boy. I see you're into oxymorons gains.

And you get a thrill out of talking to someone more famous and more
successful that yourself. Would you like me to autograph one of

your

brutely strong, weight-lift-reinforced popeye arms when you get

here

with the just-as-mythical $700k?

ROTFL. Come on, monkey boy, beat your chest some more. No one else
has ever called you "famous" and I doubt they ever will. You are
doing a great job of showing just how your ego controls your life and
won't let you admit your gambling failures were due to your own
stupidity and NOTHING else..

>
> > > > And the question comes up again--one which you never have
> > answered. Prove that there really are 'hundreds of successful
> > advantage players' anywhere.
> > >
> > > Are you really that stupid. Just go to the VPFREE polls and

see

> > for yourself. Of course, you'd NEVER accept anyones' word for

it

> > since it would hit right at the heart of your scam.
> >
> > I asked for proof--not some poll taken of a bunch of wannabee
> > winning players like you. You'd believe anything that fits

inside

> > your slide rule case. Problem is, there's no common sense in
there with it.
>
> Like I said "you'd NEVER accept anyones' word".

And like the word of a bunch of losing, mainly low-class video

poker

players is gonna give you proof of anything. Just how thick are you
anyway?

I know they are successful. I've seen them BE successful. Let go of
that IMMENSE ego and you can also see the truth.

>
> > That's such a foolish statement and you know it. So what - and
who cares about 101% or 103% or even 96%?? Anything can happen at

any

> > time. Those so-called 'positive plays' are there just to get
money from fool players like you. You'll play them for hours n end
> > thinking you're pulling some sort of wool over the casino
manager's eyes. And he always has the last laugh.
>
> I suspect when you entered the door that the casino managers eyes
> really did get quite large. Not true for those of us who know

what

> were doing.

If what you, the Queen, Dancer, Hughes, and a handful of others say
is true, then NO casino manager would ever let you or them in his
doors. That's top proof that they fear no advantage player because
none of them win.

Some have been barred or not allowed to play progressives. In
addition, the high denom positive games have all been removed. Want
to guess why? Because the advantage players were beating them. Let go
of your ego and see the truth.

I know several hosts from other venues at two of
the more frequented 'positive-play' casinos in LV, and I've been

able

to 'check up' on two of the most famous names that make you googly-
eyed. I'm sure you won't believe this, but one of them was losing
$170k by June 28th this year, and your other hero was behind over
$40k by Sept. 7th.

You want me to believe that these casino hosts are putting their jobs
in jeopardy giving out personal information to you? What an OBVIOUS
lie. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

Yet both of these 'superstars' give the impression
they win all the time. That's more than enough proof to verify what
i've been saying for 6 years. Of course you'll try to sweep it all
away by saying "But gee Rob, that's not enough data to know

anything,

and it's only that they've unfortunately fallen onto the famous

other

side of the stupid bell curve".

No, it's an obvious lie, monkey boy, nothing else needs to be said.

>
> > Whoopie Do!! Goody. And what of the other idiot advantage

players

> > who did not win a prize?? And what if you did not win a little
cash that day--like happens over 70% of the time?
>
> I agree with one thing in this response. It really doesn't matter
> what happens on "that day". That's because it's over time that

the

> profits accrue.

And that's exactly why I always tell everyone that these promotions
were made solely for those who feel they are 'advantage players'.

Sure they are ... More BS. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

It's a huge money-maker for the casinos. What do you think--that

they

feel like giving away free money in promos? All that 'over time'
nonsense is exactly how the casino manager wants people like you to
think. It keeps them coming back for even more abuse, and the very
few times they actually leave with a profit only serve to wet the
addiction.

I've shown you are wrong with this argument in the past and yet you
bring it up again. The casinos are going for NUMBERS with promotions.
That means lots of non-advantage players. Let go of your ego and see
the truth.

You can't accept this because of your own failures.
> I've had a great two month run. Everything I've mentioned is the
> absolute truth. However, I realize that I will also hit some bad
> streaks along the way. In fact, I've mentioned a couple of them
> previously. The bottom line is I'm way ahead and continue to move
> farther ahead.

then I'll say what you do to me: you're simply on the 'other side'

of

the bell curve, only you don't know how to properly and accurately
formulate that curve to show how people like you play.

Almost a good point. The CENTER of the bell curve of a positive
player is well ABOVE break-even. Hence, I can go through bad streaks
and stay even or lose very little. Then, when the good streaks hit I
jump way ahead. That's the way it works for intelligent advantage
players. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

>
> > > Yes, you've babbled on quite often. However, it's only monkey
boy rhetoric and is meaningless to those of us who can see through
> > your scam.
> >
> > Gee, nice answer. You get made a fool of once again and you

can't

> > figure out how or why. Kind of like having your pants pulled

down

> in the girls gym like you've experienced before, correct?
>
> More fantasies monkey boy? You really need to think about more
> important things than your high school days which occurred OVER

30

> years ago. Talk about looking like a fools' fool in this
discussion.
> I've proven that time and time again and you just supplied me

with

> even more ammunition. I'm not the least bit surprised that you'd
> think otherwise. Your failures at the easy game of advantage VP
> completely demonstrate your lack of intelligence.

As the words flow..... A guy with a slide rule telling me I live in
my high school days....

I haven't used a slide rule in over 35 years. Probably longer than
you, Mr. EE. It's statements like this that show how your ego hasn't
let you move on. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

I think I remember reading that you play mostly in indian casinos.

I used to. Now it's more of a mixture.

You find full pay VP in them?

Yes. Only one game.

And what games do you usually play?

FPOEJs. I think the only reason they exist is there's no software
around that analyzes this game. I'm sure the game makes hugh profits
for the casinos because there are only a few (around 5) advantage
players. The high variance is great for providing some winning
sessions. It can hook people quickly just like DDB. I had to devise
my own strategy.

Just curious.
In New Yorks Indian casinos the best you can find is 98% and then

you

don't really know if they are random. I've been trying to find the
regulations fo NY with no success.

I found the regulations on the state web site. I was lucky that
someone (another VPFREE memeber) else had found them first and
provided me with a URL.

Dick

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

>
> I think I remember reading that you play mostly in indian

casinos.

> You find full pay VP in them? And what games do you usually play?
> Just curious.In New Yorks Indian casinos the best you can find is
98% and then you don't really know if they are random. I've been
trying to find the regulations fo NY with no success.

You'll likely view an answer from him similar to this:

1. You add in .004% for comps.
2. You add in .10% for cash back.
3. You add in .5% for casino host smiles and VIP-like attention.
4. You add in .6% because it all makes my wife happy.
5. You add in .2% because I only play during promotions and

giveaways.

6. And on nice days, you throw in .02% for a sunny day.

Viola--We now have created a POSITIVE PLAY! Something all advantage
players do all the time!!

I think this response pretty much sums up Robs' knowledge of VP. But
just for laughs:

1. Game payback 100.276%
2. Cashback .264% (I love double and triple point days)
3. BB varies (<.1%)
4. Comps .3% (or more), all rooms and food free. Free golf as well.
5. Promotions (last year I won almost $1000 in the free VP tourneys
and hit a scratch off promotion for $1000).

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:

This is just about what the Dicker said. nothing.

Finally the monkey boy understands he can't keep up with the facts
I've presented. It's about time.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:
>

This is just about what the Dicker said. nothing.

Yup, this page is chok full of your facts---just as you've presented
them!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

> This is just about what the Dicker said. nothing.

Finally the monkey boy understands he can't keep up with the facts
I've presented. It's about time.

As long as I'm making money they can call me anything they want.
That's the part that really bugs you. You couldn't figure out how

to win so no one else could possibly win. Guess what? You're just as

wrong here as you are in pretty much ALL of your thinking.

So says every pathological gambler on earth....and maybe on the moon
too. You been to those casinos too??

> My ridicule bothers you.

ROTFLMAO.

What in the world are you trying to say???

> You are not a public figure and therefore
> have no idea how to handle such truths when spoken about you.
Denial
> in video poker; denial here. A pair that'll beat a full house any
> time of day.

Still laughing. You are such a moron. The funiest part is you don't
even get it.

Even funnier is the fact that I'm not the one in need of 'getting it'
when there's an admitted gambling addict making believe about
everything he's trying to get across.

No, but you don't like it when I tell you you're wrong all the

time.

I thought I'd give you a break on this one. But you persist ... If
you had ANY knowledge about VP you'd know that session wins/losses
are a direct result of the game variance. You win more sessions

when

you play high variance games. You lose more sessions when you play
low variance games. Of course, very few successful gamblers care
about individual sessions anyway. They care about the OVERALL
results. By the way, a progressive system based on high variance
games will result in more session wins as I've said before. What it
DOESN'T do is change the overall results as I've proven before.

On my goodness! There's all that nervous wordy rhetoric once again.
Maybe you can get some of that hives medicine in the morning, and the
swelling will go down.

That's what I said, bigL. You couldn't make it work so no one can.
Too bad you are 100% wrong as proved by the hundreds of successful
advantage players.

So where's the proof that these mysterious hundreds exist? In your
mind maybe???

This is really humerous. It completely

demonstrates how your EGO can't let you move on from your personal
failures. Is this another reason why you can't forget your HS years?

Let's see....You brag about winning $5k recently and are all hyped up
about it for a change. I admitted in several columns publicly that i
lost about $250k playing 6 years the supposed way you say you do,
then I win $630k using a method I developed, and that's a 'personal
failure'?? HAHAHA!!! Guess who has the last laugh!! Wait, wait....Let
me get up off the floor from rolling around before I continue.

I wouldn't keep gambling if I wasn't successful. My ego does't
control my life like yours obviously does.

you haven't the choice--realize it or not and accept it or not. You
are controlled by the though of playing, and your financial situation
is controlled by the reality of playing. And that's precisely why you
won't make the $700k bet. You might not have even $700.

> If I have to wait for proof, I'll need generation of liars to

come forth before you'd ever admit you were fooling yourself all
along.

You have nothing better to add than this foolishness? You sound

more like a 3rd grader all the time.

Read what you wrote again, then ask your 2nd grade teacher for
forgiveness. OOPS! If you've got one foot in the grave, she must have
two.

> And you get a thrill out of talking to someone more famous and

more successful that yourself. Would you like me to autograph one of

your brutely strong, weight-lift-reinforced popeye arms when you

get here with the just-as-mythical $700k?

ROTFL. Come on, monkey boy, beat your chest some more. No one else
has ever called you "famous" and I doubt they ever will.

It's idiots like you who MAKE me famous, professor.

> And like the word of a bunch of losing, mainly low-class video
poker players is gonna give you proof of anything. Just how thick

are you anyway?

I know they are successful. I've seen them BE successful. Let go of
that IMMENSE ego and you can also see the truth.

So now you've spent the 'long-term' at the machines with these people
too? HAHAHAHAHA! That's the funniest make-believe yet!!

> If what you, the Queen, Dancer, Hughes, and a handful of others

say is true, then NO casino manager would ever let you or them in his

> doors. That's top proof that they fear no advantage player

because none of them win.

Some have been barred or not allowed to play progressives.

More nebulous statements. Who, and where? And were they on a stupid
team? The answer's YES. And they've not been barred because of some
mythical prowess that you'd like to believe they have. THEY BROKE THE
RULES OF TAKING ALL THE SEATS AND NOT LETTING HOTEL CUSTOMERS SIT AND
PLAY, BOZO!

In

addition, the high denom positive games have all been removed. Want
to guess why? Because the advantage players were beating them. Let

go of your ego and see the truth.

Oh man, are you brainwashed. 99.999% of the players who play as
stupid as you do are all LOW ROLLERS. Why? Because they LOSE and
can't afford to play those games. Dancer is one of the few who has
played high denom 'positive' games, but that's ONLY because he's so
overly addicted to vp that he can't get a thrill at the lower end any
more. You're waaaay out of your league making believe here.

> I know several hosts from other venues at two of
> the more frequented 'positive-play' casinos in LV, and I've been
able
> to 'check up' on two of the most famous names that make you

googly-

> eyed. I'm sure you won't believe this, but one of them was losing
> $170k by June 28th this year, and your other hero was behind over
> $40k by Sept. 7th.

You want me to believe that these casino hosts are putting their

jobs in jeopardy giving out personal information to you? What an
OBVIOUS lie. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

OK dopey, try to follow what I said, and think in terms of street
smarts instead of boring statictics. Did you ever hear that some
people 'know' people, and some people 'owe' people?? If not you'll
never get any of it having led as closed-in a life as you have.

> It's a huge money-maker for the casinos. What do you think--that
they feel like giving away free money in promos? All that 'over

time' nonsense is exactly how the casino manager wants people like
you to think. It keeps them coming back for even more abuse, and the
very few times they actually leave with a profit only serve to wet
the addiction.

I've shown you are wrong with this argument in the past and yet you
bring it up again. The casinos are going for NUMBERS with

promotions. That means lots of non-advantage players. Let go of your
ego and see the truth.

Yes, NUMBERS of the loco 'advantage players' because they can count
on these fools to bring in fresh cash from anywhere possible
everytime they run a stupid promotion. The saps do respond. The
normal drop-in local couldn;t care less about what day the rope gets
thrown out. they go in when they can regardless,.

Almost a good point. The CENTER of the bell curve of a positive
player is well ABOVE break-even. Hence, I can go through bad

streaks and stay even or lose very little. Then, when the good
streaks hit I jump way ahead. That's the way it works for intelligent
advantage players. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

Can you possibly get any more boring and aimless than you are here?

I haven't used a slide rule in over 35 years. Probably longer than
you, Mr. EE. It's statements like this that show how your ego

hasn't let you move on. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

You mean you don't use it to measure your shrivelling Dick, like all
the nerds and geeks used to do in High School??

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

profits for the casinos because there are only a few (around 5)
advantage players.

Oh My God!! The Dicker is one of only FIVE people on earth qualified
to win at this stupid game that no one has? Somebody please help me
up!!!!!!!!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

> And what games do you usually play?

FPOEJs. I think the only reason they exist is there's no software
around that analyzes this game. I'm sure the game makes hugh

> You'll likely view an answer from him similar to this:
>
> 1. You add in .004% for comps.
> 2. You add in .10% for cash back.
> 3. You add in .5% for casino host smiles and VIP-like attention.
> 4. You add in .6% because it all makes my wife happy.
> 5. You add in .2% because I only play during promotions and
giveaways.
> 6. And on nice days, you throw in .02% for a sunny day.
>
> Viola--We now have created a POSITIVE PLAY! Something all

advantage players do all the time!!

I think this response pretty much sums up Robs' knowledge of VP. But

just for laughs:

1. Game payback 100.276%
2. Cashback .264% (I love double and triple point days)
3. BB varies (<.1%)
4. Comps .3% (or more), all rooms and food free. Free golf as well.
5. Promotions (last year I won almost $1000 in the free VP tourneys
and hit a scratch off promotion for $1000).

Just like I said. Was that a 'scratch & sniff' promo? And did you
say 'free golf'? WOWZER! Just the way you've presented this fluff one
can easily see you've hands are sweating as you type. What a BRUTE of
an advantage player!! A true addict if there ever was one, wouldn't
you say?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

Now Dick can print anything he wants and not get shredded apart by
me. Oh, here's another fine piece of print that the Dicker won't
understand: I'm not betting one penny in hearly 4 days of being in
casino hotels. I know that's impossible for Dicky to comprehend--esp.
because he doesn't take a wife who doesn't care about the game with
him. But yup, it's true Mr. addict! And I won't be sitting in my room
counting flowers on the wall either--like nerds and geeks have always
done.

So here's another chance to make-believe while I'm gone, because you
know I'll make you look like the fool that you truly are when I
return.

NOT FAIR!!!!! You pubbies have all the money.

Now Dick can print anything he wants and not get shredded apart by
me. Oh, here's another fine piece of print that the Dicker won't
understand: I'm not betting one penny in hearly 4 days of being in
casino hotels. I know that's impossible for Dicky to comprehend--

esp.

because he doesn't take a wife who doesn't care about the game with
him. But yup, it's true Mr. addict! And I won't be sitting in my

room

counting flowers on the wall either--like nerds and geeks have

always

done.

So here's another chance to make-believe while I'm gone, because

you

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

know I'll make you look like the fool that you truly are when I
return.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>
> As long as I'm making money they can call me anything they want.
> That's the part that really bugs you. You couldn't figure out how
to win so no one else could possibly win. Guess what? You're just

as

> wrong here as you are in pretty much ALL of your thinking.

So says every pathological gambler on earth....and maybe on the

moon

too. You been to those casinos too??

Boy, you really have run out of anything original to say, haven't
you. This must be around 100 times you've said this same garbage. I'm
not at all surprised.

>
> > My ridicule bothers you.
>
> ROTFLMAO.

What in the world are you trying to say???

I explained it to you just a few of months ago. Is your brain so
decimated by alcohol that you can't remember that far back???

>
> > You are not a public figure and therefore
> > have no idea how to handle such truths when spoken about you.
> Denial
> > in video poker; denial here. A pair that'll beat a full house

any

> > time of day.
>
> Still laughing. You are such a moron. The funiest part is you

don't

> even get it.

Even funnier is the fact that I'm not the one in need of 'getting

it'

when there's an admitted gambling addict making believe about
everything he's trying to get across.

ROTFL. What a gas.

>
> No, but you don't like it when I tell you you're wrong all the
time.
> I thought I'd give you a break on this one. But you persist ...

If

> you had ANY knowledge about VP you'd know that session

wins/losses

> are a direct result of the game variance. You win more sessions
when
> you play high variance games. You lose more sessions when you

play

> low variance games. Of course, very few successful gamblers care
> about individual sessions anyway. They care about the OVERALL
> results. By the way, a progressive system based on high variance
> games will result in more session wins as I've said before. What

it

> DOESN'T do is change the overall results as I've proven before.

On my goodness! There's all that nervous wordy rhetoric once again.
Maybe you can get some of that hives medicine in the morning, and

the

swelling will go down.

The panic continues by the monkey boy and nothing original to refute
the evidence I JUST presented.

>
> That's what I said, bigL. You couldn't make it work so no one

can.

> Too bad you are 100% wrong as proved by the hundreds of

successful

> advantage players.

So where's the proof that these mysterious hundreds exist? In your
mind maybe???

Walk into any LV locals casino with good VP and you'll have no
problem finding them. I know you read VPFREE so you already know who
some of them are. It's really humerous that you previously have
stated that casinos come up with promotions just for advantage
players and now you ask for proof that even a hundred exist.

This is really humerous. It completely
> demonstrates how your EGO can't let you move on from your

personal

> failures. Is this another reason why you can't forget your HS

years?

Let's see....You brag about winning $5k recently and are all hyped

up

about it for a change. I admitted in several columns publicly that

i

lost about $250k playing 6 years the supposed way you say you do,

I doubt very much it was the "the way I do". You've proved more than
once you really don't understand advantage play. Your ego won't let
you accept that FACT, so it forces you to believe no one else can win.

then I win $630k using a method I developed, and that's a 'personal
failure'?? HAHAHA!!! Guess who has the last laugh!! Wait,

wait....Let

me get up off the floor from rolling around before I continue.

And who would believe this after you RENEGEd on a $200K bet?

>
> > If I have to wait for proof, I'll need generation of liars to
come forth before you'd ever admit you were fooling yourself all
along.
>
> You have nothing better to add than this foolishness? You sound
more like a 3rd grader all the time.

Read what you wrote again, then ask your 2nd grade teacher for
forgiveness. OOPS! If you've got one foot in the grave, she must

have

two.

Need I say more ...

> > And like the word of a bunch of losing, mainly low-class video
> poker players is gonna give you proof of anything. Just how thick
are you anyway?
>
> I know they are successful. I've seen them BE successful. Let go

of

> that IMMENSE ego and you can also see the truth.

So now you've spent the 'long-term' at the machines with these

people

too? HAHAHAHAHA! That's the funniest make-believe yet!!

You should actually try talking to the people gambling next to you
once in awhile. You can learn something about them. Of course, you
wouldn't want to learn the truth since that would prove you couldn't
make it while they could. That darn ego again.

>
> > If what you, the Queen, Dancer, Hughes, and a handful of others
say is true, then NO casino manager would ever let you or them in

his

> > doors. That's top proof that they fear no advantage player
because none of them win.
>
> Some have been barred or not allowed to play progressives.

More nebulous statements. Who, and where? And were they on a stupid
team? The answer's YES. And they've not been barred because of some
mythical prowess that you'd like to believe they have. THEY BROKE

THE

RULES OF TAKING ALL THE SEATS AND NOT LETTING HOTEL CUSTOMERS SIT

AND

PLAY, BOZO!

You really believe the casinos would bar anyone who's losing BIG
money. Give me a break.

>
> > I know several hosts from other venues at two of
> > the more frequented 'positive-play' casinos in LV, and I've

been

> able
> > to 'check up' on two of the most famous names that make you
googly-
> > eyed. I'm sure you won't believe this, but one of them was

losing

> > $170k by June 28th this year, and your other hero was behind

over

> > $40k by Sept. 7th.
>
> You want me to believe that these casino hosts are putting their
jobs in jeopardy giving out personal information to you? What an
OBVIOUS lie. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

OK dopey, try to follow what I said, and think in terms of street
smarts instead of boring statictics. Did you ever hear that some
people 'know' people, and some people 'owe' people?? If not you'll
never get any of it having led as closed-in a life as you have.

Now your stating it's not the "hosts" as you claimed above. That
would make you're previous statement a lie. Now why whould I ever
believe your REVISED statement? Or, should I call that your revised
LIE?

>
> > It's a huge money-maker for the casinos. What do you think--

that

> they feel like giving away free money in promos? All that 'over
time' nonsense is exactly how the casino manager wants people like
you to think. It keeps them coming back for even more abuse, and

the

very few times they actually leave with a profit only serve to wet
the addiction.
>
> I've shown you are wrong with this argument in the past and yet

you

> bring it up again. The casinos are going for NUMBERS with
promotions. That means lots of non-advantage players. Let go of

your

ego and see the truth.

Yes, NUMBERS of the loco 'advantage players' because they can count
on these fools to bring in fresh cash from anywhere possible
everytime they run a stupid promotion. The saps do respond. The
normal drop-in local couldn;t care less about what day the rope

gets

thrown out. they go in when they can regardless,.

And this is the same man who wants proof that there are just a
hundred advantage players. You're getting awfully confused.

>
>Almost a good point. The CENTER of the bell curve of a positive
> player is well ABOVE break-even. Hence, I can go through bad
streaks and stay even or lose very little. Then, when the good
streaks hit I jump way ahead. That's the way it works for

intelligent

advantage players. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

Can you possibly get any more boring and aimless than you are here?

Once more the facts leave monkey boy without anything intelligent to
say.

>
> I haven't used a slide rule in over 35 years. Probably longer

than

> you, Mr. EE. It's statements like this that show how your ego
hasn't let you move on. Let go of your ego and see the truth.

You mean you don't use it to measure your shrivelling Dick, like

all

the nerds and geeks used to do in High School??

LMAO. You still can't get over HS, can you? Each and every time you
reference these days over 30 years ago, I get a good laugh. Grow up
like the rest of us have done and maybe you can learn to live IN THE
PRESENT.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>
> > You'll likely view an answer from him similar to this:
> >
> > 1. You add in .004% for comps.
> > 2. You add in .10% for cash back.
> > 3. You add in .5% for casino host smiles and VIP-like attention.
> > 4. You add in .6% because it all makes my wife happy.
> > 5. You add in .2% because I only play during promotions and
> giveaways.
> > 6. And on nice days, you throw in .02% for a sunny day.
> >
> > Viola--We now have created a POSITIVE PLAY! Something all
advantage players do all the time!!
>
>I think this response pretty much sums up Robs' knowledge of VP.

But

just for laughs:
>
> 1. Game payback 100.276%
> 2. Cashback .264% (I love double and triple point days)
> 3. BB varies (<.1%)
> 4. Comps .3% (or more), all rooms and food free. Free golf as

well.

> 5. Promotions (last year I won almost $1000 in the free VP

tourneys

> and hit a scratch off promotion for $1000).

Just like I said. Was that a 'scratch & sniff' promo? And did you
say 'free golf'? WOWZER! Just the way you've presented this fluff

one

can easily see you've hands are sweating as you type. What a BRUTE

of

an advantage player!! A true addict if there ever was one, wouldn't
you say?

If you replace "addict" with "winner" then you'd have it right. Too
bad your immense ego won't let you see the truth.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote: