--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:
--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:
>
> I knew you'd still deny the truth even when it's in black and
white. It's ABSOLUTELY CLEAR in the referenced compact. This little
item shows you will lie and deny the facts no matter what to
protect
your ego. A famous person once said "It takes a big man to admit
his
> mistakes". Well, without a shadow of a doubt, Rob Singer, you are
a very LITTLE man.
You're so transparent. It's clearly obvious that you have no
apparent knowledge of how contracts work in the real world, nor do
you understand that which you say you've read.
I understand perfectly well. So do you, little man.
>
> > Show me where it says "The state is the only authority that can
> > verify the randomness of the machines, and the penalties are
$XX
> for the first violation and close-down for the next".
>
> It's right there moron. Read it and weep. When any machine is in
> doubt it is SHUT DOWN until verified or the casino LOSES its'
right to exist. This prevents the casinos from having illegal
machines PERIOD. No fines are required.
Wrong. And incredibly, AGAIN! You fail to comprehend that a
contract
is not a single clause, but an entity that operates as a whole
document. While you're simply looking for what you want to see to
build your own sick justification for playing at that rip-off
joint,
I'm reading the language in its entirety as it was meant to be
read.
Sure you are. Where did YOUR law degree come from? This compact was
dramn up by lawyers that KNEW what they were doing. Your idiotic
attempt to claim is doesn't say what it says is extremely humorous.
Nothing will EVER be shut down, because of the loose language in
other parts of the document. You're so naaive and such a dufus. Do
they make them any dumber out there?
No. I doubt anything will be shut down ... but not because of
anything you could ever contemplate. It is because there is no reason
for the tribes to violate the compact. Indian gaming is a
tremendously lucrative business and they would never do anything to
jeopordize it. Your silly attempts to save face here are making you
look like very sick person.
>
> You stated ALL Indian casinos could do as they please. That's
right ALL! The discussion is not about CT and AZ, however, I
suspect
those casinos are also fine. You just won't let your lies go, even
in the face of indisputable evidence.
I'm glad you show some sense here. ALL Tribal casinos operate
independently ans do as they wish with the machines. Only an
addicted customer wouldn't accept that, and only a compulsive vp
player such as yourself wouldn't WANT to see that. Even when
printed
right in front of you. Unbelieveable!!
That's the right word. It describes you to the max. All you can do is
babble on and on and never say anything concrete.
>
> I've got you right where I want you. The great part is you
continue to defend your indefendable position. If anyone ever
doubted that you are a liar and a fraud then this will change their
minds.
And I'll bet you say you've got the casinos right where you want
them too..... You are so foolish I'm embarrassed to be answering
such uneducated offerrings.
You should be embarrassed. You've been caught in another lie. This
time there's no place to hide. No maybes involved. It's all clearly
written in black and white for everyone to read.
>
> > Not so fast bozo. It's so easy to tell you have ZERO knowledge
of
> > Contract Law. How you keep embarrassing yourself I'll never
know. A
> > TRUE clause would identify every parameter and who's
responsible
> for
> > what EXACTLY. That wording--if you didn't screw up by making it
up--
> > leaves issues open, and NO contract but an Indian contract
would
do
> > that. What's the provisions? Where's the clause stating that
the
> > games required to be random?
>
> Now I see why you didn't respond to the last sections (and
clipped
> the part about randomness). You know the one. Section 6.10 where
it essentially copied the NV regs about randomness. You are such a
fool.
Read on, and suck it up!
I've already read on. It's you that needs to suck it up and admit
you're wrong. But then, you won't will you, little man.
>
> The Indians signed the compact which gave up this part of their
> sovereignty to gain the gambling rights. It's all their in black
and white. Do you enjoy looking like a complete MORON?
Is that what you think from reading that? My oh my, you're aging a
hundredfold (don't get excited with sweaty palms--I didn't say
hundred-play) right before my eyes.....
Of course that's what I think. That's what it says. If you REALLY
thought otherwise you'd be quoting parts of the compact that
supported you. You know better but you can't stop lying.
>
> > All that copy & paste you did is rendered 100% useless by this
> part. Next time know what you're doing BEFORE looking like the
fool you always are.
So you removed the only meaningful clause from the pact. Big
surprise. So I'll make you look like the biggest, most uneducated
fool of all time--
""(b) Video Games That Are Affected by Player Skill.
Video games that are affected by player skill, such as draw poker
and
blackjack, shall payout a minimum of 83 percent and no more than 98
percent of the amount wagered, including replays. This standard is
met when using a method of play which will provide the greatest
return to the player"
I'm surprised you actually took the time to read a small part of the
compact. Of course, I've mentioned this before on both FVF and
VPfree. So, if you think you just found something I didn't already
know then you are kidding yourself. It simply sets max and min for
payouts. It has nothing to do with the fairness of the games as that
is covered elsewhere.
This is their 'out' and it's in every Native American casino pact--
and for good reason. It first renders all other clauses useless and
ambiguous. When I argued with the Redstick Council over here on the
radio about the language of "shall payout a minimum of 83% and no
more than 98%" they fell into a trap. Notice it doesn't say "the
pay
tables".
But it does say. "Video games of chance that are representative of
live gambling games must fairly and accurately depict the play of the
live game." That means the pay tables must represent the game fairly.
They then announced it was their right to keep the payout
of vp machines to below 98% at all times, and that they make sure
no
machine ever pays out over that regardless of what they have to do
to keep it under, because this clause is the Prime Directive in the
contract.
That's not what it says. You are trying to stretch the meaning to fit
your own twisted mind. They can't do something "regardless" of the
requirement for fairness without invalidating that requirement. They
are mutually exclusive. This stupid attempt to save face is making
you look like a little boy who wants to run home to mommy.
When I asked how they could possibly 'bias' the machines
when they were not allowed to in the pact, thats when I was told
why
this clause is the most important one written in. No direct answer
or admission.
This is sounding like one of your fantasies.
Now, as for your beloved Nevada Regs, you need to read what I wrote
about them in GT--which BTW I was contacted shortly thereafter by
IGT and 'politely asked' not to print that information again. It's
the same interpretation to nebulous language the Indians use to get
by. My contact told me the games are indeed programmed in hot and
cold cycles, but they've devised a way around the meaning of a true
RNG (which you should know is non-absolute in a computer program)
Do you have any idea what you just said? A "non-absolute" computer
program. Are you claiming that computer programs can now THINK. I
guess we should call the newspapers as this is an earth-shattering
revelation. Can Data be far behind?
in
their regulations--which I have not read because this seems to help
me in my play strategies, and may well be a reason why I win so
often. Read my article. You'll enjoy it! On my site, the March 15th
2005 article "Are VP Machines Always Fair?" Don't weep too hard.
This has nothing to do with Indian Gaming. You are still trying to
avoid admitting your error. It won't work.
Sorry to step on your tail as you run away, but that's what happens
when you go up against the facts with emotion.
The facts are still all there. All you've done is make a very poor
effort to cloud the issue. You are looking more ridiculous in every
post and I'm loving every minute of it.