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Rob Singer and Bob Dancer...not so different?

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> Good luck. Nothing you could ever say will bother me. I see you

for

> EXACTLY what you are. A liar and a fraud and quite stupid in fact.

Ha! You've just been called by one of those whom you try to out-

post

"out-post"??? Yep, that's all Harry and I do. LMAO. Do I see a spark
of jealousy??? It's interesting that you read our posts so closely.

on vpFREE and WinPoker. Ha! Ouch, that's gotta hurt! I'm used to

it,

but poor little Dicky? What an ego-buster!

No, as you've probably noticed by now, I agreed with Harry.

> > Oh, so those 3 times last summer (twice on $25 DDB & once on

$10

> DDB)
> > when I held 22 or 33 out of two pair and ended up with quads

with

> > kickers EACH TIME were what? NEGATIVES?? HAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Yep. When you add in ALL the times you got ZILCH. That's what

makes

> addition sooooooo correct and you soooooo wrong.

Yup. and since most of my play averages out to be on the $2 machine
and I play far fewer hands than you, you're quite right.

You finally admit it. Thank you.

> Hello. The game has nothing to do with luck. Some folks will
> get "lucky" at times and some others will get "lucky" at other
times. However, OVER TIME it will balance out. None of your lies

will

ever change this FACT.

It hurts you that I've transcended all that intellectual theory,
doesn't it.

You've "transcended" nothing with your lies. So, why don't you
describe to everyone the times you throw away two pair and get
NOTHING? Could it be you only post information to support your
fraudulent system and conveniently forget the rest? It's really quite
easy to see right through you.

I see you still remember my number of RFs last winter. A little

envy there? If you go back even further you will see where I once
posted a 5 1/2 month RF drought. It's all part of playing VP.

I don't need RF's to win, so playing into addiction doesn't interest
me. So get back to the REAL issue and explain how a non-addict is
able to play 'sparingly' in 6 months and get 26 royals! No, don't
squeeze in that your wife had half or something stupid like that
(like your Queen always uses about her 'Brad'), just the truth.

Nope. If I remember right I posted it in a discussion of streaks.
Seems fairly appropriate to me.

Well, you're certainly in one of your classic 'losing streaks' right
now!
   

> Who's your Daddy, Mr. video poker success wannabee?

What a reply. ROTFLMAO. You obviously can't help but look like a

fool.

Oops! Who's your 'video poker' Daddy?
     

Hmmmm. Yep, "roped" into a $2000 drawing win last spring at Tuscany.

Ooooo--such brutal prowess! $2000!! I get four aces regularly there
for $4000 on a negative E. machine I had them install specifically
for me.

I don't need to go to any Dancer classes. I already understand
EXACTLY how VP works. However, you should think about it. You might
learn something for a change.

Oh that's right, you can teach him, or so you'd like the people at
WinPoker to believe. Well, at least I let you off the hook yesterday
on the multiple Dancer classes. Bet you were wiping the sweat at that
point! (Ok, now you need another face-saving post here about it).

> Only problem is, you're satisfied with phantom bucks while I walk
out with the cash you dream about.

More lies. I "walked out" with real money and I have serious doubts
about most of your claims, the claims of a scammer.

OK, you must be right. You just win too much for me. Can't beat
theory!

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No, as you've probably noticed by now, I agreed with Harry.

And, um, so what choice do you have?
    

> It hurts you that I've transcended all that intellectual theory,
> doesn't it.

You've "transcended" nothing with your lies. So, why don't you
describe to everyone the times you throw away two pair and get
NOTHING?

Happens all the time on DDB and TBP+ and WDB. Rarely at such high
denoms. because I rarely have to play them. Make any sense yet? Or is
the jealousy getting the better of you??

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

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> I see you still remember my number of RFs last winter. A little
envy there? If you go back even further you will see where I once
posted a 5 1/2 month RF drought. It's all part of playing VP.

I don't need RF's to win,

No one does at any given session. Are you completely losing it?

so playing into addiction doesn't interest
me. So get back to the REAL issue and explain how a non-addict is
able to play 'sparingly' in 6 months and get 26 royals! No, don't
squeeze in that your wife had half or something stupid like that
(like your Queen always uses about her 'Brad'), just the truth.

I've explained it to you before. You really need to slow down on the
drinking before you completely lose your mind.

A) I play quite fast
B) I play a lot of triple play
C) I achieved more RFs that would be expected in that time frame.

I play around 15-20 hours a week, which is pretty reasonable for a
hobby. What do I get for that? All the free meals I want, free gas,
free movies, free rooms for friends/relatives and I make a few bucks
too. Also, I have more than enough time for my other interests. If
you believe that is "addiction" then your not losing it, YOU'VE LOST
IT.

> Nope. If I remember right I posted it in a discussion of streaks.
> Seems fairly appropriate to me.

Well, you're certainly in one of your classic 'losing streaks'

right

now!

Nope. I'm actually in a "even" streak. Probably more rare than
winning and losing streaks.
     

> Hmmmm. Yep, "roped" into a $2000 drawing win last spring at

Tuscany.

Ooooo--such brutal prowess! $2000!! I get four aces regularly there
for $4000 on a negative E. machine I had them install specifically
for me.

So what, we all get big jackpots all the time. However, you had
stated that promotions were a waste of time. I really doubt there are
too many folks that think $2000 is a waste of time.

> I don't need to go to any Dancer classes. I already understand
> EXACTLY how VP works. However, you should think about it. You

might

> learn something for a change.

Oh that's right, you can teach him, or so you'd like the people at
WinPoker to believe.

No, I didn't say that. The subject matter is not difficult. Putting
together a good class, however, takes a lot of hard work.

Well, at least I let you off the hook yesterday
on the multiple Dancer classes. Bet you were wiping the sweat at

that

point! (Ok, now you need another face-saving post here about it).

Everyone can see it's just more of the monkey boy.

> > Only problem is, you're satisfied with phantom bucks while I

walk

> out with the cash you dream about.
>
> More lies. I "walked out" with real money and I have serious

doubts

> about most of your claims, the claims of a scammer.

OK, you must be right. You just win too much for me. Can't beat
theory!

Not theory, monkey boy, FACT.

> I don't need RF's to win,

No one does at any given session. Are you completely losing it?

I don't care what anyone else needs or doesn't need. I've gone 24
sessions and won $77,000 without a royal. No 'advantage player' has
or ever will be able to do that.

> so playing into addiction doesn't interest
> me. So get back to the REAL issue and explain how a non-addict is
> able to play 'sparingly' in 6 months and get 26 royals! No, don't
> squeeze in that your wife had half or something stupid like that
> (like your Queen always uses about her 'Brad'), just the truth.

I've explained it to you before. You really need to slow down on
the drinking before you completely lose your mind.

OK, I'll let you off here. Some people have written me privately and
aren't happy when i pin you down like this.

A) I play quite fast
B) I play a lot of triple play
C) I achieved more RFs that would be expected in that time frame.

Sounds like a bad addiction to me. I can play 1400 hph on a machine
at Harrah's in Reno, but that's stupid to do any more. Fast or 'quite
fast' begs for errors.

I play around 15-20 hours a week, which is pretty reasonable for a
hobby. What do I get for that? All the free meals I want, free gas,
free movies, free rooms for friends/relatives and I make a few

bucks too. Also, I have more than enough time for my other interests.
If you believe that is "addiction" then your not losing it, YOU'VE

LOST IT.

You sound like the Queen and her denial tantrums. "I play 20-25 hours
a week and it's ONLY a recreational activity". And you, at 2-1/2 to 3
hours a day gambling? A 'hobby'? C'mon. That's justification for a
bad habit and you know it, and what a waste of time to boot. Ever
hear of a REAL vacation or trip or activity any more? Free this, free
that, big deal. How about the most unhealthiest of atmospheres in the
country, but it's FREE! You have my sympathy.
  

> Well, you're certainly in one of your classic 'losing streaks'
right now!

Nope. I'm actually in a "even" streak. Probably more rare than
winning and losing streaks.

Oh, the famous "I about broke even" syndrome. It's not all that rare.
Almost everyone I talk to - regular, expert, AP's, etc. - has been
saying that, in person of course.
      

So what, we all get big jackpots all the time. However, you had
stated that promotions were a waste of time. I really doubt there

are too many folks that think $2000 is a waste of time.

There's only one instance where I can think a $2000 win is a waste of
time. That's where someone goes in and chases a promotion to get it
by playing. If they do it there then they do it everywhere, and
that's a HUGE waste of time.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

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> > so playing into addiction doesn't interest
> > me. So get back to the REAL issue and explain how a non-addict

is

> > able to play 'sparingly' in 6 months and get 26 royals! No,

don't

> > squeeze in that your wife had half or something stupid like

that

> > (like your Queen always uses about her 'Brad'), just the truth.

> I've explained it to you before. You really need to slow down on
>the drinking before you completely lose your mind.

OK, I'll let you off here. Some people have written me privately

and

aren't happy when i pin you down like this.

> A) I play quite fast
> B) I play a lot of triple play
> C) I achieved more RFs that would be expected in that time frame.

Sounds like a bad addiction to me.

I guess your definition of addiction is pretty stupid.

However, let me take this one step further. There's nothing wrong
with having an addition. It's only if the addiction leads to other
problems that one needs to be concerned. I know several VP players
that admit they are addicted. However, they don't have a gambling
problem. I suspect this is going waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy over your small
mind but I'm sure anyone else reading this will understand.

For me personally, gambling is not addictive. Every now and then I
find a new game that gets me excited for a little while, but it
doesn't stay with me. Golf? Yeah, I'm addicted to that.

I can play 1400 hph on a machine
at Harrah's in Reno, but that's stupid to do any more. Fast

or 'quite

fast' begs for errors.

Yes, that would be too fast for me also.

> I play around 15-20 hours a week, which is pretty reasonable for

a

> hobby. What do I get for that? All the free meals I want, free

gas,

> free movies, free rooms for friends/relatives and I make a few
bucks too. Also, I have more than enough time for my other

interests.

If you believe that is "addiction" then your not losing it, YOU'VE
>LOST IT.

You sound like the Queen and her denial tantrums.

I laid it out for you completely. If you can't respond to me, then
its' clear you have nothing intelligent to say.

> > Well, you're certainly in one of your classic 'losing streaks'
> right now!
>
> Nope. I'm actually in a "even" streak. Probably more rare than
> winning and losing streaks.

Oh, the famous "I about broke even" syndrome. It's not all that

rare.

Almost everyone I talk to - regular, expert, AP's, etc. - has been
saying that, in person of course.

No, I meant absolutely EVEN right down to the correct percentages for
each type of hand. Very rare indeed for the number of hands I've
played this summer. Of course, your miniscule brain wouldn't
understand that.

> So what, we all get big jackpots all the time. However, you had
> stated that promotions were a waste of time. I really doubt there
are too many folks that think $2000 is a waste of time.

There's only one instance where I can think a $2000 win is a waste

of

time. That's where someone goes in and chases a promotion to get it
by playing. If they do it there then they do it everywhere, and
that's a HUGE waste of time.

Since I spent minimal time for this promotion, I believe you just
argued against your previous point. Who got "roped in"?

One part of good advantage play is to make promotions work for
yourself. It's all in the math.

However, let me take this one step further. There's nothing wrong
with having an addition. It's only if the addiction leads to other
problems that one needs to be concerned. I know several VP players
that admit they are addicted. However, they don't have a gambling
problem. I suspect this is going waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy over your small
mind but I'm sure anyone else reading this will understand.
For me personally, gambling is not addictive. Every now and then I
find a new game that gets me excited for a little while, but it
doesn't stay with me. Golf? Yeah, I'm addicted to that.

You know how you sound? To someone who's openly admitted he's been
there, all you're doing is creating justification for doing something
that you know you do far more than you should. Denial is the cause of
your ability to talk yourself into such a posture. Soft-pedalling the
word 'Golf' into the discussion only exacerbates the problem you have
with video poker. For someone who says he plays 2-1/2-3 hours a day,
that sounds like a little more than just excitement over the
discovery of a new game every now and then. Video poker is a game,
but it's a casino game. And it's the most addicitve of the casino
games. To claim you're not an addicted gambler after all that is
certainly understandable, but you're not fooling anybody.

> Oh, the famous "I about broke even" syndrome. It's not all that
rare.
> Almost everyone I talk to - regular, expert, AP's, etc. - has

been

> saying that, in person of course.

No, I meant absolutely EVEN right down to the correct percentages

for

each type of hand. Very rare indeed for the number of hands I've
played this summer. Of course, your miniscule brain wouldn't
understand that.

I understand. I understand. But why do you even care about that?

Since I spent minimal time for this promotion, I believe you just
argued against your previous point. Who got "roped in"?

Like anyone would know how much time you really spent on this thing,
or more importantly, how much the $2000 cost you.
Promotions are sucker events designed by casino marketing departments
to take as much money from those who think they hold an advantage
over the casinos as they can. Period. But YOU want to think it's
different. You want it to be that these events are put in place just
to hand out the cash to as many people as attends. Tell me, which
makes more sense. And don't use the tired and untrue argument
that "it's the other guys who lose while we win".

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> However, let me take this one step further. There's nothing wrong
> with having an addition. It's only if the addiction leads to

other

> problems that one needs to be concerned. I know several VP

players

> that admit they are addicted. However, they don't have a gambling
> problem. I suspect this is going waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy over your

small

> mind but I'm sure anyone else reading this will understand.
> For me personally, gambling is not addictive. Every now and then

I

> find a new game that gets me excited for a little while, but it
> doesn't stay with me. Golf? Yeah, I'm addicted to that.

You know how you sound? To someone who's openly admitted he's been
there, all you're doing is creating justification for doing

something

that you know you do far more than you should. Denial is the cause

of

your ability to talk yourself into such a posture.

Gee, what a surprise answer. Ignore all the facts and make a
ridiculous attempt to include me in your sickness. If you had/have a
gambling problem then deal with it. You make-believe that everyone
else who gambles must also be addicted to find some solace in your
own condition. Sorry, life is not that simple. Get over it.

Soft-pedalling the
word 'Golf' into the discussion only exacerbates the problem you

have

with video poker.

What a joke. You really thik any intelligent person is going to fall
for this dribble.

For someone who says he plays 2-1/2-3 hours a day,
that sounds like a little more than just excitement over the
discovery of a new game every now and then. Video poker is a game,
but it's a casino game.

Are you trying to provide something the rest of us don't know? Yeah,
it's a casino game, get to some kind of point!

And it's the most addicitve of the casino
games. To claim you're not an addicted gambler after all that is
certainly understandable, but you're not fooling anybody.

All casino games are addictive to someone. It's not the game itself,
moron, it's the thrill of the win, the high, that good feeling that
addicted people try to repeat over and over. That's what addiction
is. If you don't even understand the basis for addiction how can you
possibly comment on it. Your comments betray you.

Now, as I said before, addiction, in and of itself, is not a problem.
It's only when it leads to other negatives that it becomes a problem.
Many people are addicted to their jobs. They are called workaholics.
However, most workaholics are productive members of society and their
addiction does not cause other negatives. Finally, it's been shown
that some people have what's called "addictive personalities", they
are prone to addiction in many ways. Others, like me, don't.

Now, use this little educational experience and move on something
where you have a clue. Which, by the way, is clearly NOT VP either.

> > Oh, the famous "I about broke even" syndrome. It's not all that
> rare.
> > Almost everyone I talk to - regular, expert, AP's, etc. - has
been
> > saying that, in person of course.
>
> No, I meant absolutely EVEN right down to the correct percentages
for
> each type of hand. Very rare indeed for the number of hands I've
> played this summer. Of course, your miniscule brain wouldn't
> understand that.

I understand. I understand. But why do you even care about that?

I was just answering your stupid question ...

> Since I spent minimal time for this promotion, I believe you just
> argued against your previous point. Who got "roped in"?

Like anyone would know how much time you really spent on this

thing,

or more importantly, how much the $2000 cost you.

I know exactly. I keep records. My wife and me made a PROFIT of over
$1000 (not counting comps) outside of the promotion. Sure, we might
lose next time ... but win somewhere else. As long as we're playing
with a nice positive expection ...

Promotions are sucker events designed by casino marketing

departments

to take as much money from those who think they hold an advantage
over the casinos as they can. Period.

Yes and no. The reason for promotions is to increase revenue. That
means draw in more gamblers. It has nothing to do with advantage
players since they are but a small segment of the total gambling
population. At the casinos I visit here in MN I'd say only 1 in about
1000 have any idea about advantage play (and that number is probably
high). There are more advantage players in LV locals casinos, but not
on or near the strip.

But YOU want to think it's
different. You want it to be that these events are put in place

just

to hand out the cash to as many people as attends. Tell me, which
makes more sense. And don't use the tired and untrue argument
that "it's the other guys who lose while we win".

You said it, the "other guys". You know, those who think they can win
playing with a negative expectation.

> You know how you sound? To someone who's openly admitted he's

been

> there, all you're doing is creating justification for doing
something
> that you know you do far more than you should. Denial is the

cause

of
> your ability to talk yourself into such a posture.

Gee, what a surprise answer. Ignore all the facts and make a
ridiculous attempt to include me in your sickness. If you had/have

a

gambling problem then deal with it. You make-believe that everyone
else who gambles must also be addicted to find some solace in your
own condition. Sorry, life is not that simple. Get over it.

More denial. I know you'd never admit to it and the only thing you'd
do is argue it. Who'd expect anything other than that? After all,
YOU'RE the one with the problem and your ego is such that you'd never
allow yourself to look like an addict on an Internet forum. That's
why I'm here-to expose you.

> And it's the most addicitve of the casino
> games. To claim you're not an addicted gambler after all that is
> certainly understandable, but you're not fooling anybody.

All casino games are addictive to someone. It's not the game

itself,

moron, it's the thrill of the win, the high, that good feeling that
addicted people try to repeat over and over. That's what addiction
is. If you don't even understand the basis for addiction how can

you

possibly comment on it. Your comments betray you.

Face it. You're an addict in denial. Be a man and accept it. All your
ramble below was just lore self-justification so you can feel good
about your problem you make believe doesn't exist.

Yes and no. The reason for promotions is to increase revenue. That
means draw in more gamblers. It has nothing to do with advantage
players since they are but a small segment of the total gambling
population. At the casinos I visit here in MN I'd say only 1 in

about

1000 have any idea about advantage play (and that number is

probably

high). There are more advantage players in LV locals casinos, but

not

on or near the strip.

Advantage players come in with the most cash and the biggest
addictions. They're the PERFECT target.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > You know how you sound? To someone who's openly admitted he's
been
> > there, all you're doing is creating justification for doing
> something
> > that you know you do far more than you should. Denial is the
cause
> of
> > your ability to talk yourself into such a posture.
>
> Gee, what a surprise answer. Ignore all the facts and make a
> ridiculous attempt to include me in your sickness. If you

had/have

a
> gambling problem then deal with it. You make-believe that

everyone

> else who gambles must also be addicted to find some solace in

your

> own condition. Sorry, life is not that simple. Get over it.

More denial. I know you'd never admit to it and the only thing

you'd

do is argue it.

More facts. You just don't LIKE the answer. That's your problem. Deal
with it.

Who'd expect anything other than that? After all,
YOU'RE the one with the problem and your ego is such that you'd

never

allow yourself to look like an addict on an Internet forum. That's
why I'm here-to expose you.

Nice try. However, it's obvious you are a lair and fraud. Given that,
do you think anyone is going to believe anything you say you simply
because you blurt it out. LMAO.

> > And it's the most addicitve of the casino
> > games. To claim you're not an addicted gambler after all that

is

> > certainly understandable, but you're not fooling anybody.
>
> All casino games are addictive to someone. It's not the game
itself,
> moron, it's the thrill of the win, the high, that good feeling

that

> addicted people try to repeat over and over. That's what

addiction

> is. If you don't even understand the basis for addiction how can
you
> possibly comment on it. Your comments betray you.

Face it. You're an addict in denial. Be a man and accept it. All

your

ramble below was just lore self-justification so you can feel good
about your problem you make believe doesn't exist.

Hmmm. I give a well thought out response discussing what addiction
really is ... and your response is simply more monkey boy bravado
with no content. You are doing such a wonderful job of looking like a
complete fool, it takes almost no effort on my part.

>
> Yes and no. The reason for promotions is to increase revenue.

That

> means draw in more gamblers. It has nothing to do with advantage
> players since they are but a small segment of the total gambling
> population. At the casinos I visit here in MN I'd say only 1 in
about
> 1000 have any idea about advantage play (and that number is
probably
> high). There are more advantage players in LV locals casinos, but
not
> on or near the strip.

Advantage players come in with the most cash and the biggest
addictions. They're the PERFECT target.

More lies. Even if they have TWICE or THREE times as much cash, that
still leaves them with around 3% or less of the potential market. Not
a very good target for any casino promotion. You need a rudimentary
lesson in marketing as well as addition. But then, good marketing
REQUIRES the ability to add, something you obviously lack.

Of course, we all know EXACTLY why you're saying this. You're still
trying to justify your fraudulent progressive system by knocking
advantage play and advantage players. It's sooooooo obvious. It's as
old as the hills. "The establishment is wrong and only I can save
you" hucksters have been at it for years. You see them all the time
in religion, in the medical industry, and they've been preying on
gamblers for years. You're just another scammer and you've been
exposed!

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wrote:

Advantage players come in with the most cash and the biggest
addictions. They're the PERFECT target.

More lies. Even if they have TWICE or THREE times as much cash, that
still leaves them with around 3% or less of the potential market. Not
a very good target for any casino promotion. You need a rudimentary
lesson in marketing as well as addition. But then, good marketing
REQUIRES the ability to add, something you obviously lack.

Painting your own personal picture doesn't make it real Dicky. I like
how you and the gurus and others like you always say there's only
about 3% who are "advantage players". The truth is almost everybody
who chases promotions in LV believe they're advantage players. You're
hardly in an exclusive club of fools.

Of course, we all know EXACTLY why you're saying this. You're still
trying to justify your fraudulent progressive system by knocking
advantage play and advantage players. It's sooooooo obvious. It's as
old as the hills. "The establishment is wrong and only I can save
you" hucksters have been at it for years. You see them all the time
in religion, in the medical industry, and they've been preying on
gamblers for years. You're just another scammer and you've been
exposed!

What other route can you take with your addiction than to say nothing
in a hundred words?

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>
wrote:
> Advantage players come in with the most cash and the biggest
> addictions. They're the PERFECT target.

>More lies. Even if they have TWICE or THREE times as much cash,

that

>still leaves them with around 3% or less of the potential market.

Not

>a very good target for any casino promotion. You need a rudimentary
>lesson in marketing as well as addition. But then, good marketing
>REQUIRES the ability to add, something you obviously lack.

Painting your own personal picture doesn't make it real Dicky. I

like

how you and the gurus and others like you always say there's only
about 3% who are "advantage players".

Wrong again. I said .1% in MN.

The truth is almost everybody
who chases promotions in LV believe they're advantage players.

You're

hardly in an exclusive club of fools.

Who said anything about Las Vegas? Didn't you read my post? All I
said was there were more adv. players in local casinos but not on the
strip.

However, I would say it would be more like 3-4% in Las Vegas locals
casinos. You need to understand that a person who buys a strategy
card, uses it once or twice and thinks they are an expert is NOT an
advantage player. I really don't care if someone "believes" they are
an advantage player. There's no free ride. They either do the work or
they most likely WILL be a loser. Just like you.

>Of course, we all know EXACTLY why you're saying this. You're still
>trying to justify your fraudulent progressive system by knocking
>advantage play and advantage players. It's sooooooo obvious. It's

as

>old as the hills. "The establishment is wrong and only I can save
>you" hucksters have been at it for years. You see them all the time
>in religion, in the medical industry, and they've been preying on
>gamblers for years. You're just another scammer and you've been
>exposed!

What other route can you take with your addiction than to say

nothing

in a hundred words?

I said it all. You are a fraud. You just don't like seeing the real
undeniable truth in black and white.

> Painting your own personal picture doesn't make it real Dicky. I
like
> how you and the gurus and others like you always say there's only
> about 3% who are "advantage players".

Wrong again. I said .1% in MN.

Who cares what's in MN. other than the hundreds of intelligent people
up there who've bought both my books?

> The truth is almost everybody
> who chases promotions in LV believe they're advantage players.
You're hardly in an exclusive club of fools.

Who said anything about Las Vegas? Didn't you read my post? All I
said was there were more adv. players in local casinos but not on

the strip. However, I would say it would be more like 3-4% in Las
Vegas locals

casinos. You need to understand that a person who buys a strategy
card, uses it once or twice and thinks they are an expert is NOT an
advantage player. I really don't care if someone "believes" they

are an advantage player. There's no free ride. They either do the
work or they most likely WILL be a loser. Just like you.

Listen to how stupid you sound. 3-4%? Like I said, an exclusive "Club
of Fools". What 'work' are you talking about? Video poker is not work
unless you play a strategy as I do. The game is simple common sense
controlled by luck and nothing else. The only skill involved is in
doing the mechanical things correctly. All the rest of whatever
mixture's in your head is just you trying to make believe the
compulsive 'hobby' your life is controlled by is worthwhile.

> What other route can you take with your addiction than to say
nothing in a hundred words?

I said it all. You are a fraud. You just don't like seeing the real
undeniable truth in black and white.

I was wrong. I should have said "a hundred words or more".

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wrote:

> > Painting your own personal picture doesn't make it real Dicky.

I

> like
> > how you and the gurus and others like you always say there's

only

> > about 3% who are "advantage players".
>
> Wrong again. I said .1% in MN.

Who cares what's in MN.

Not the point. You missed it again, didn't you? Do I have to spell it
out for you, AGAIN. OK. MN is typical of most locations outside of
Nevada. There is almost no concept of advantage play. Is that clear
enough???

> > The truth is almost everybody
> > who chases promotions in LV believe they're advantage players.
> You're hardly in an exclusive club of fools.
>
> Who said anything about Las Vegas? Didn't you read my post? All I
> said was there were more adv. players in local casinos but not on
the strip. However, I would say it would be more like 3-4% in Las
Vegas locals
> casinos. You need to understand that a person who buys a strategy
> card, uses it once or twice and thinks they are an expert is NOT

an

> advantage player. I really don't care if someone "believes" they
are an advantage player. There's no free ride. They either do the
work or they most likely WILL be a loser. Just like you.

Listen to how stupid you sound. 3-4%?

Yes, 3-4% . Do you have proof of any other numbers? Didn't think so.

Like I said, an exclusive "Club
of Fools". What 'work' are you talking about? Video poker is not

work

unless you play a strategy as I do.

Hmmm. I think you just admitted to being in a Club of Fools. That
would sure explain your system.

The game is simple common sense
controlled by luck and nothing else.

Is that how ALL electronics work? By luck and nothing else? Same
math, same logic, same results. You can't have statistics work for
common everyday electronics and not have it work for VP. And, a
statistical approach to VP is the same as a statistical approach to
electronics. So, "common sense" would indicate that VP results are
controlled by SKILL and nothing else.

The only skill involved is in
doing the mechanical things correctly.

Read the above paragraph again. If skillful playing is not
advantageous, then NO electronic devices would EVER work. Same math,
moron.

All the rest of whatever
mixture's in your head is just you trying to make believe the
compulsive 'hobby' your life is controlled by is worthwhile.

More of the same tired illogic. The math works, it always will and
none of your drunken BS can change it. The proof is the computer
devices right in front of you.

> > What other route can you take with your addiction than to say
> nothing in a hundred words?
>
> I said it all. You are a fraud. You just don't like seeing the

real

> undeniable truth in black and white.

I was wrong. I should have said "a hundred words or more".

The truth really gets to you. I love it.

Not the point. You missed it again, didn't you? Do I have to spell

it out for you, AGAIN. OK. MN is typical of most locations outside of

Nevada. There is almost no concept of advantage play. Is that clear
enough???

Being that there's no such thing as 'advantage play' I guess you'd
believe anything you write. It's nothing more than a feel-good phrase
for those unable to escape the hooks of video poker or the casino
managers.
  

Yes, 3-4% . Do you have proof of any other numbers? Didn't think so.

Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!

Hmmm. I think you just admitted to being in a Club of Fools. That
would sure explain your system.

You missed it again. Zzzoooooommm! That Club is exclusive to those vp
players who believe they're 'advantage players'.

> The game is simple common sense
> controlled by luck and nothing else.

Is that how ALL electronics work? By luck and nothing else? Same
math, same logic, same results. You can't have statistics work for
common everyday electronics and not have it work for VP. And, a
statistical approach to VP is the same as a statistical approach to
electronics. So, "common sense" would indicate that VP results are
controlled by SKILL and nothing else.

Which electronics? A hair dryer? An electric saw? They're not
selecting images that determine a successful or unsuccessful
utilization of the product. They either work properly or they don't.
VP requires a dissemination of information that's either useful or
it's a failure, and the operator has no say in what transpires. One
would need a great amount of luck not to fail.

> The only skill involved is in
> doing the mechanical things correctly.

Read the above paragraph again. If skillful playing is not
advantageous, then NO electronic devices would EVER work. Same
math, moron.

And read what I just wrote and accept an education for a change.

> All the rest of whatever
> mixture's in your head is just you trying to make believe the
> compulsive 'hobby' your life is controlled by is worthwhile.

More of the same tired illogic. The math works, it always will and
none of your drunken BS can change it. The proof is the computer
devices right in front of you.

Skirting the issue is the one main reason your problem is a glaring
one.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>> Not the point. You missed it again, didn't you? Do I have to

spell

it out for you, AGAIN. OK. MN is typical of most locations outside

of

> Nevada. There is almost no concept of advantage play. Is that

clear

> enough???

Being that there's no such thing as 'advantage play' I guess you'd
believe anything you write. It's nothing more than a feel-good

phrase

for those unable to escape the hooks of video poker or the casino
managers.

You just said that the equivalent of "all electonic devices cannot
work". You are such an idiot.

> Yes, 3-4% . Do you have proof of any other numbers? Didn't think

so.

Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!

Simple observation. However, the next time your in LV why don't you
walk around and ask everyone. Keep good notes.

> Hmmm. I think you just admitted to being in a Club of Fools. That
> would sure explain your system.

You missed it again. Zzzoooooommm! That Club is exclusive to those

vp

players who believe they're 'advantage players'.

Sure it is. I think anyone who thinks all electronic devices work by
simple luck fits the classification much better.

> > The game is simple common sense
> > controlled by luck and nothing else.

> Is that how ALL electronics work? By luck and nothing else? Same
> math, same logic, same results. You can't have statistics work

for

> common everyday electronics and not have it work for VP. And, a
> statistical approach to VP is the same as a statistical approach

to

> electronics. So, "common sense" would indicate that VP results

are

> controlled by SKILL and nothing else.

Which electronics? A hair dryer? An electric saw?

Yes. Among thousands of others.

They're not
selecting images that determine a successful or unsuccessful
utilization of the product. They either work properly or they

don't.

Of course, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they're all
based on the statistical understanding of how electrons flow.

VP requires a dissemination of information that's either useful or
it's a failure, and the operator has no say in what transpires. One
would need a great amount of luck not to fail.

Spoken like someone who has no clue. Where did you get that Master's
degree? Diplomas 'R us?

>
> > The only skill involved is in
> > doing the mechanical things correctly.
>
> Read the above paragraph again. If skillful playing is not
> advantageous, then NO electronic devices would EVER work. Same
>math, moron.

And read what I just wrote and accept an education for a change.

LMAO.

> > All the rest of whatever
> > mixture's in your head is just you trying to make believe the
> > compulsive 'hobby' your life is controlled by is worthwhile.
>
> More of the same tired illogic. The math works, it always will

and

> none of your drunken BS can change it. The proof is the computer
> devices right in front of you.

Skirting the issue is the one main reason your problem is a glaring
one.

Then why do you keep doing it?

> Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!

Simple observation. However, the next time your in LV why don't you
walk around and ask everyone. Keep good notes.

> They're not
> selecting images that determine a successful or unsuccessful
> utilization of the product. They either work properly or they
don't.

Of course, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they're

all based on the statistical understanding of how electrons flow.

Who cares? You're being such a nerd again.

> VP requires a dissemination of information that's either useful

or it's a failure, and the operator has no say in what transpires.
One would need a great amount of luck not to fail.

Spoken like someone who has no clue. Where did you get that

Master's degree? Diplomas 'R us?

All that does is make you appear not to know much. I already knew
that though.

> Skirting the issue is the one main reason your problem is a

glaring one.

Then why do you keep doing it?

I see I've conjured up the Pee Wee Herman in you again. That's when I
know you're irritated. In fact, you're probably turning around to
your wife at this very moment (if she's not glued to some vp machine
somewhere) and trying to build back your confidence level by asking
her to agree with you on something simple like the weather forecast!
What's that you say----LOAM??

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!
>
> Simple observation. However, the next time your in LV why don't

you

> walk around and ask everyone. Keep good notes.

> > They're not
> > selecting images that determine a successful or unsuccessful
> > utilization of the product. They either work properly or they
> don't.
>
> Of course, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they're
all based on the statistical understanding of how electrons flow.

Who cares? You're being such a nerd again.

You do because it's PROOF that advantage play is valid and your scam
system can never work.

> > VP requires a dissemination of information that's either useful
or it's a failure, and the operator has no say in what transpires.
One would need a great amount of luck not to fail.
>
> Spoken like someone who has no clue. Where did you get that
Master's degree? Diplomas 'R us?

All that does is make you appear not to know much. I already knew
that though.

All "that"? I think I hit a nerve. Most likely you couldn't even
figure out how to print off a fake diploma. You just lie about it
like you do everything else.

> > Skirting the issue is the one main reason your problem is a
glaring one.

> Then why do you keep doing it?

I see I've conjured up the Pee Wee Herman in you again. That's when

I

know you're irritated. In fact, you're probably turning around to
your wife at this very moment (if she's not glued to some vp

machine

somewhere) and trying to build back your confidence level by asking
her to agree with you on something simple like the weather

forecast!

What's that you say----LOAM??

It probably should be FOAM. Is that what your degree is printed on?

Now THERE's a scinetific analysis for ya! What a phony.

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Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!

> > Simple observation. However, the next time your in LV why don't
you walk around and ask everyone. Keep good notes.

The booze is really getting to you now.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:
> Then let's see the proof supporting 3%-4%!

> > > Simple observation. However, the next time your in LV why don't
> you walk around and ask everyone. Keep good notes.

Now THERE's a scinetific analysis for ya! What a phony.