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Rob Singer and Bob Dancer...not so different?

#1

> 4. Singer claims that his book sells well, although I have no way of
> confirming that. It's obvious that Dancer's publications sell well.

A search of Amazon a few minutes ago produced this result:

"The Undeniable Truth About Video Poker by Rob Singer"

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,633,202 in Books

Comparisons:

"Video Poker: Optimum Play by Dan Paymar"
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9,489 in Books

"Million Dollar Video Poker by Bob Dancer"
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #25,198 in Books

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To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
From: "hockeystl" <vegasstl@charter.net>
Date: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Rob Singer and Bob Dancer...not so different?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "hockeystl" <vegasstl@c...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Dan Paymar <Dan@O...> wrote:

#2

I'm not surprised, seeing that my Publisher--GBC of Las Vegas--has
never sent any books to amazon due to a disagreement that arose just
prior to the date of expected shipment. None were sent & none were sold.

It's good to see these other guys are doing so well! They need the
money.

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> A search of Amazon a few minutes ago produced this result:
>
> "The Undeniable Truth About Video Poker by Rob Singer"
>
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,633,202 in Books

Comparisons:

"Video Poker: Optimum Play by Dan Paymar"
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9,489 in Books

"Million Dollar Video Poker by Bob Dancer"
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #25,198 in Books

#3

I've just been sitting here reading all these great posts over the
last few days and this is working out to be a tragic comedy of
sorts. Tragic to singer and comedic to everyone else. This post
(below) I think says it all. Great strategy, having a disagreement
with the worlds largest bookseller when you publish a book. Close to
your strategy for vp, don't cha think, robbie?? If you get royalties
from sales of your masterwork, you've probably made at least $20 by
now. No wonder you left to write your next book. So, how long can
you tread water??

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

I'm not surprised, seeing that my Publisher--GBC of Las Vegas--has
never sent any books to amazon due to a disagreement that arose

just

prior to the date of expected shipment. None were sent & none were

sold.

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It's good to see these other guys are doing so well! They need the
money.

> > A search of Amazon a few minutes ago produced this result:
> >
> > "The Undeniable Truth About Video Poker by Rob Singer"
> >
> > Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,633,202 in Books
>
> Comparisons:
>
> "Video Poker: Optimum Play by Dan Paymar"
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: #9,489 in Books
>
>
> "Million Dollar Video Poker by Bob Dancer"
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: #25,198 in Books

#4

Zooooommm----right over your head again Johnny.....or was it right on
THRU the hole in your head?? Quantity of books sold ands where is
important to you but it means nothing to me. So much so that I don't
care if gas goes to $20 a gallon! Tell me my friend, does the price of
gasoline combined with your conservative-dependent income prevent you
from going to the graveyard to pay your respects lately? I wonder if
there's any rolling over in the grave going on as you're watched
spewing liberal buzzwords and blaspheming their sacrafices?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

I've just been sitting here reading all these great posts over the
last few days and this is working out to be a tragic comedy of
sorts. Tragic to singer and comedic to everyone else. This post
(below) I think says it all. Great strategy, having a disagreement
with the worlds largest bookseller when you publish a book. Close to
your strategy for vp, don't cha think, robbie?? If you get royalties
from sales of your masterwork, you've probably made at least $20 by
now. No wonder you left to write your next book. So, how long can
you tread water??

#5

OK, so you wrote the stupid book for personal gratification? Kind of
a waste of time and effort, but it's your meaningless life not mine.
What does the price of gas have to do with your stupid strategy or
book? As far as your blasphemy assertion, I admire veterans, in fact
I voted for one.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

Zooooommm----right over your head again Johnny.....or was it right

on

THRU the hole in your head?? Quantity of books sold ands where is
important to you but it means nothing to me. So much so that I

don't

care if gas goes to $20 a gallon! Tell me my friend, does the

price of

gasoline combined with your conservative-dependent income prevent

you

from going to the graveyard to pay your respects lately? I wonder

if

there's any rolling over in the grave going on as you're watched
spewing liberal buzzwords and blaspheming their sacrafices?

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

> I've just been sitting here reading all these great posts over

the

> last few days and this is working out to be a tragic comedy of
> sorts. Tragic to singer and comedic to everyone else. This post
> (below) I think says it all. Great strategy, having a

disagreement

> with the worlds largest bookseller when you publish a book.

Close to

> your strategy for vp, don't cha think, robbie?? If you get

royalties

> from sales of your masterwork, you've probably made at least $20

by

> now. No wonder you left to write your next book. So, how long

can

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> you tread water??

#6

Therein lies the reason for your continuous flow of sour grapes. The
book was written for others interested in why they've been losing and
how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys who'll sell
them just about anything to keep gambling money in their pockets. Yes,
I get a ton of gratification out of being able to do that.

I too admire veterans---the kind that don't come back from battle and,
because they're safe, try to undermine those still in harm's way. The
only blood the wussy loser you voted for ever saw was that which he
thought came out of a squeezed bottle of ketchup when he got back home
after making believe he was a hero of some sort. Good thing the REAL
swift boat veterans were around to tell the undeniable truth. Those are
true Americans.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

OK, so you wrote the stupid book for personal gratification? Kind of
a waste of time and effort, but it's your meaningless life not mine.
What does the price of gas have to do with your stupid strategy or
book? As far as your blasphemy assertion, I admire veterans, in fact
I voted for one.

#7

<<The book was written for others interested in why they've been losing and
how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys who'll sell them
just about anything to keep gambling money in their pockets.>>

But your strategy is phony and you are a fraud and, as we just learned, a
welsher.

Where's my million dollars?

Cogno

#8

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@g...>
wrote:

But your strategy is phony and you are a fraud and, as we just

learned, a welsher.

But, but, but, but......

Where's my million dollars?

That's what all losers ask.

#9

Therein lies the reason for your continuous flow of sour grapes. The
book was written for others interested in why they've been losing and
how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys who'll

sell

them just about anything to keep gambling money in their pockets.

Yes,

I get a ton of gratification out of being able to do that.

Hmmmm. I thought you never claimed anyone would win with your scam
strategy. Now, it sounds like you do. Or, does "stop the pain" when
applied to "why they've been losing" mean something else to you?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

#10

Let me see... You write a book, it doesn't sell and that helps?? Do
you work for FEMA??
Your Kerry assertions are comical. I guess he would earn your
respect if he deserted and spent 6 months doing blow in Alabama. I
also appreciate your support of the republican-funded swift boaters
group. They spew truth about as well as as your hero W. By the by;
have you figured out that Al-Q and Iraq and 9-11 had no connection
yet?? You are so narrow minded that you could look out your butthole
with both eyes. Harry, this kinder, gentler post is for you.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

Therein lies the reason for your continuous flow of sour grapes.

The

book was written for others interested in why they've been losing

and

how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys who'll

sell

them just about anything to keep gambling money in their pockets.

Yes,

I get a ton of gratification out of being able to do that.

I too admire veterans---the kind that don't come back from battle

and,

because they're safe, try to undermine those still in harm's way.

The

only blood the wussy loser you voted for ever saw was that which

he

thought came out of a squeezed bottle of ketchup when he got back

home

after making believe he was a hero of some sort. Good thing the

REAL

swift boat veterans were around to tell the undeniable truth.

Those are

true Americans.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

> OK, so you wrote the stupid book for personal gratification?

Kind of

> a waste of time and effort, but it's your meaningless life not

mine.

> What does the price of gas have to do with your stupid strategy

or

> book? As far as your blasphemy assertion, I admire veterans, in

fact

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> I voted for one.

#11

Hello again McFLY?? Zzzoooommmmm-------right thru the hole in YOUR head
this time! Maybe you & John could get together and see if between the
two of you geniuses you could plug one of them.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>

wrote:

> Therein lies the reason for your continuous flow of sour grapes.

The

> book was written for others interested in why they've been losing

and

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

> how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys who'll
sell
> them just about anything to keep gambling money in their pockets.
Yes,
> I get a ton of gratification out of being able to do that.

Hmmmm. I thought you never claimed anyone would win with your scam
strategy. Now, it sounds like you do. Or, does "stop the pain" when
applied to "why they've been losing" mean something else to you?

#12

Well, what is it Singer. Are you saying people will win with your
strategy? Take a stand, moron, instead of dodging hither and fro like
the monkey boy you've become.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

Hello again McFLY?? Zzzoooommmmm-------right thru the hole in YOUR

head

this time! Maybe you & John could get together and see if between

the

two of you geniuses you could plug one of them.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:
> > Therein lies the reason for your continuous flow of sour

grapes.

The
> > book was written for others interested in why they've been

losing

and
> > how to stop the pain, as well as to be aware of the phoneys

who'll

> sell
> > them just about anything to keep gambling money in their

pockets.

> Yes,
> > I get a ton of gratification out of being able to do that.
>
> Hmmmm. I thought you never claimed anyone would win with your

scam

> strategy. Now, it sounds like you do. Or, does "stop the pain"

when

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> applied to "why they've been losing" mean something else to you?

#13

What? A real question? Then here's your answer: If someone were to
play the exact strategy as I've developed, they will win on at least
80% of their visits, and the total wins will far exceed the total
losses. If they use variations of it they will experience better
results than they do now--regardless of how they play. If they say
they're going to follow my strategy exactly but then chicken out when
they get to the higher denominations, they will most probably lose.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

Well, what is it Singer. Are you saying people will win with your
strategy? Take a stand, moron, instead of dodging hither and fro like
the monkey boy you've become.

#14

<<If someone were to play the exact strategy as I've developed, they will
win on at least 80% of their visits, and the total wins will far exceed the
total losses. If they use variations of it they will experience better
results than they do now--regardless of how they play. If they say they're
going to follow my strategy exactly but then chicken out when they get to
the higher denominations, they will most probably lose.>>

There it is... The undeniable falsehood. Congratulations, you trapped him
once again.

Liar, fraud, welsher.

Where's my $2 million?

Cogno

#15

Oh, and I forgot to add in, MY results follow an 87% success rate and
over $645,000 in profits. That, of course, does not count the comps,
freebies, cash back, coupons, phoney tournament EV, giveaway EV, and
all that other stuff people like you like to add in at highly
inflated values just to be able to say you've had winning years.

Now pay up or I'll have Stanford Wong come after you, that is, when
he saves up enough money from his sale of all that junk.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti"
<cognoscienti@g...> wrote:

<<If someone were to play the exact strategy as I've developed,

they will

win on at least 80% of their visits, and the total wins will far

exceed the

total losses. If they use variations of it they will experience

better

results than they do now--regardless of how they play. If they say

they're

going to follow my strategy exactly but then chicken out when they

get to

the higher denominations, they will most probably lose.>>

There it is... The undeniable falsehood. Congratulations, you

trapped him

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once again.

Liar, fraud, welsher.

Where's my $2 million?

Cogno

#16

Now this gets us back to the addition. How can anyones' "total wins ...
far exceed ... total losses" when playng negative machines?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

What? A real question? Then here's your answer: If someone were to
play the exact strategy as I've developed, they will win on at least
80% of their visits, and the total wins will far exceed the total
losses. If they use variations of it they will experience better
results than they do now--regardless of how they play. If they say
they're going to follow my strategy exactly but then chicken out when
they get to the higher denominations, they will most probably lose.

#17

Oh, and I forgot to add in, MY results follow an 87% success rate and
over $645,000 in profits.

So you say. However, if you really cared about how others used your
system you would collect data on your web site on their results. You
obviously don't want to know because then you'd have to admit your
system is a fraud.

That, of course, does not count the comps,
freebies, cash back, coupons, phoney tournament EV, giveaway EV, and
all that other stuff people like you like to add in at highly
inflated values just to be able to say you've had winning years.

The very same things you claimed you ignored because you were above
that and they were casino traps for addiction. Another lie I take it.

Now pay up or I'll have Stanford Wong come after you, that is, when
he saves up enough money from his sale of all that junk.

He has clearly PROVED that you owe him 2,000,000 dollars. I see you
haven't changed anything and are still reneging on your bets EXACTLY as
you did last year.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

#18

That's what baffles you about my strategy and why you shouldn't be
discounting it unless & until you know everything about it. But I'm a
bit surprised at how you put your question. It's video poker. Anything
can happen, and just as in any negative situation in life, you can turn
it into a positive with the right moves at the right times, even though
you can't do it on paper. Remember, the strategy is all about taking
advantage of the luck afforded, and the special plays are inserted to
increase the amount and intensity of that good fortune.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

Now this gets us back to the addition. How can anyones' "total
wins ... far exceed ... total losses" when playng negative machines?

#19

However, if you really cared about how others used your
system you would collect data on your web site on their results.
You obviously don't want to know because then you'd have to admit
your system is a fraud.

Now why would I do something geeky like that, esp. when I couldn't
care less about how anyone else does? Try to make some sense.

> That, of course, does not count the comps,
> freebies, cash back, coupons, phoney tournament EV, giveaway EV,

and

> all that other stuff people like you like to add in at highly
> inflated values just to be able to say you've had winning years.

The very same things you claimed you ignored because you were above
that and they were casino traps for addiction. Another lie I take

it.

I guess you need this spelled out again. I don't use a card when I
play my single-play strategy. I do with the others. I never play for
slot club goals or get all excited like you do when triple point days
come along, or when they're giving out free beanie caps with
propellers after 100 points are earned.

He has clearly PROVED that you owe him 2,000,000 dollars. I see you
haven't changed anything and are still reneging on your bets

EXACTLY as

you did last year.

You're two of a kind, and I get double-satisfaction out of making
either one of you look stupid. the best part is there's not a heck of
a lot of effort required. Now see if you can get the fool to pay me.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#20

> Now this gets us back to the addition. How can anyones' "total
>wins ... far exceed ... total losses" when playng negative machines?

That's what baffles you about my strategy and why you shouldn't be
discounting it unless & until you know everything about it.

I know ALL I need to know. This is where simple addition come into
play. Anyones' results are simply the SUM of the results of all the
individuals hands. If you know the expectation of these individual
hands then adding up these expectations gives you the overall
expectation. This is as simple as it gets and NOTHING, no system, no
snake oil, no "special plays" can EVER change that FACT.

But I'm a
bit surprised at how you put your question. It's video poker.

Anything

can happen, and just as in any negative situation in life, you can

turn

it into a positive with the right moves at the right times, even

though

you can't do it on paper. Remember, the strategy is all about taking
advantage of the luck afforded, and the special plays are inserted to
increase the amount and intensity of that good fortune.

The EXACT answer that I expected. There is no way for "total wins" to
exceed "total losses" playing a negative expectation game and YOU KNOW
THAT. Your answer is as phoney as any typical scam perpetrator. It's
all snake oil. You try to compare a "negative situation in life" to VP.
What a joke. How can you possibly compare the loss of a loved one (an
obvious negative situation) with playing VP? Absurb and more
importantly fraudulent. It preys on hope, which is not unlike some of
the scams currently being perpetrated on the Katrina hurricane victims.
That is pretty much as low as it gets.

And throwing in your ridiculous "special plays" is exactly the same
approach used by other scams claiming "special ingredients" in
their "cure all".

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote: