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Malignant Narcissism

I just walked in from 3 enjoyable hours of installing KC driving lights
on my truck, and it hit me out of thin air! After coming to Dick's
rescue and trying their best time after time to ease his Singer-pain so
many times, where in the world are Meldrone and 2-Wild when he now
needs them the most as he's getting his clocked cleaned for actions not
becoming a geek?

I mean, are true friends really friends? After all, the only way Dick
and they have made it thru in the past whenever I diced either or all
of them up was to be buddys - and build each other's self-confidence in
their lowest hour! But now, I guess when the going gets tough (as in
HUMILIATION TIME) the "toughies" (I'm sure that's what they call them
in the SF bath houses) get going. What is this world coming to! OK 2-
Wild, now's the time for some more pschyo-babble if there ever was
one!! C'mon man, give your pal some much needed strength. Don't just
LEAVE him there--on his own when you see he's hurting. Why, I can
almost see the tears running down his cheeks!

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> You still don't understand this simple concept ... verification

of

> activity. You keep assuming the win/loss reports are being used

to

> determine the wins or losses. I have already stated several times
> that is not the case. Please try to keep up.

And you still seem to believe that the win/loss statement is
verification of gambling activity when it holds 1% of the weight

that

your own word does. They do not need to see a picture of you

sitting

at your machines at Sam's Town to verify that you said you gambled

at

Sam's Town. They do not need to see a win/loss statement by ST to
verify that you said you gambled at ST. Why? Because you may not be
giving them a win/loss stmt. from the Cannery where you won

thousands

with no W2G's throughout the year, and that's not a crime. But NOT
REPORTING the activity is. As thick as you seem to be on this, do

you

GEWT IT yet?

Once again you digress. I can only assume you now understand I am
absolutely right. Of course they don't "need" to see anything.
However, if you have an auditor that thinks you may be lying, all the
evidence you produce to VERIFY your documentation works to your
advantage. If you don't produce this type of verifcation the auditor
may wonder why and that certainly will work against you. If you can't
understand this simple concept then there is little I can do to
educate you. You are beyond hope.

> PS. Nice to see you are continuing to "blather".

And nice to see you continue to come apart as the administrator

keeps

on ripping you a new one!
   
> > I LOVE this! You follow up lie after lie with another lie!! You
did
> > mention how you were thinking of filing as a professional

gambler

> > next year. As far as "participating in a discussion" all you

were

> > doing was the usual preaching while trying to sound impressive

to

> > that stack of boobs on vp.com. Just your style of audience!

> LMAO. You just admitted I did NOT lie while claiming I lied

again.

> You are soooooo very funny when you have your back up against the
> wall.

All you're doing by changing the subject and avoiding falling into
the Dick pit again is solidifying the vpFREE case against you for
posting nonsense. Falling flat on one's face has GOT to be how much
of an embarrassment?

Another one of Robbie's content-less statements. I'm still waiting
for a reference to where you said I lied. Personally, I think
this "projection" on your part is pretty informative.

Also, I'm sure other's have noticed you feel you must comment on
everyone of my posts. The only logical conclusion is pure jealousy.
You must think about me a lot while I only get a few laughs from all
the projections in your posts. There is way out for you. Get
professional help and it would be all worthwhile.

> > HohohoHehehe!! I've got an 18 year old niece who's filed a
schedule
> C
> > already!! Big WHOOP!!! And if you think the "biggest benefit"

is

> the
> > mileage, you're still jealous over the mileage the real

important

> > workers at IBM got over the years while you sat and rotted away
in
> > the geek squad---forcing you to an early retirement to escape

the

> > ridicule.
>
> Translation: It was a LOT more than Robbie bargained for.

It appears all the pummelling Dick's taking tonight is beginning to
have an effect.

So, you think you've been "pummelled". Actually, you've done it to
yourself. You will disagree with EVERY word I state no matter what it
is. This puts you in a bad position and you end up looking pretty
stupid.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

I just walked in from 3 enjoyable hours of installing KC driving

lights

on my truck, and it hit me out of thin air! After coming to Dick's
rescue and trying their best time after time to ease his Singer-

pain so

many times, where in the world are Meldrone and 2-Wild when he now
needs them the most as he's getting his clocked cleaned for actions

not

becoming a geek?

I'm sure both are laughing uncontrollably as your "projections" tell
the world EXACTLY what you're feeling. It is truly funny to see you
undress yourself in front of everyone. They have no need to comment,
you are doing it for them.

PS. I especially liked your last post. Chuckle, chuckle.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@> wrote:
>
> I've been posting up a storm the last few days trying to get the

spotlight off Dick and the Administrator and back on me (where it
belongs) and I'm just being ignored. It's time to manipulate a
response by directing some abuse at two readers who can really affirm
my low esteem.

I'm sure both are laughing uncontrollably as your "projections"

tell

the world EXACTLY what you're feeling. It is truly funny to see you
undress yourself in front of everyone. They have no need to

comment,

you are doing it for them.

PS. I especially liked your last post. Chuckle, chuckle.

Actually I'm just waiting for the social leper ... who delights in
parading naked under the spotlight ... to show me some new skin
lesions. At this point, he probably needs to tear off his diseased
nose to get his self-esteem any lower.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

Once again you digress. I can only assume you now understand I am
absolutely right. Of course they don't "need" to see anything.
However, if you have an auditor that thinks you may be lying, all

the

evidence you produce to VERIFY your documentation works to your
advantage. If you don't produce this type of verifcation the

auditor

may wonder why and that certainly will work against you. If you

can't

understand this simple concept then there is little I can do to
educate you. You are beyond hope.

You've just unveiled another problem you possess that's generally
reserved for the insanely neurotic who believe everyone's out to get
them. The only thing that gets accomplished when you "pull out" those
win/loss statements is the auditor will at that point begin to
distrust anything you're saying. They're not as stupid as you like to
think everyone but you are. Those artificial statements aren't
accepted as proof for a reason. Again, your theory vs. reality.
That's why you lose every time.

Another one of Robbie's content-less statements. I'm still waiting
for a reference to where you said I lied. Personally, I think
this "projection" on your part is pretty informative.

Why, you're lying right now!

Also, I'm sure other's have noticed you feel you must comment on
everyone of my posts.

So you've finally come out of your shell on it, hey?! It's kinda
difficult dealing with a person who knows what they're doing, isn't
it big guy....after years of feeling so vastly superior at home by
brow-beating a women. What goes around truly does come around.
  

> It appears all the pummelling Dick's taking tonight is beginning

to have an effect.

And I'll leave that in there for further effect. It seems to go hand-
in-hand nicely with the above.

> I just walked in from 3 enjoyable hours of installing KC driving
lights
> on my truck, and it hit me out of thin air! After coming to

Dick's

> rescue and trying their best time after time to ease his Singer-
pain so
> many times, where in the world are Meldrone and 2-Wild when he

now

> needs them the most as he's getting his clocked cleaned for

actions

not
> becoming a geek?

I'm sure both are laughing uncontrollably as your "projections"

tell

the world EXACTLY what you're feeling. It is truly funny to see you
undress yourself in front of everyone. They have no need to

comment, you are doing it for them.

HAHAHA! Think again, projectionist!!!!

PS. I especially liked your last post. Chuckle, chuckle.

Translation: It ain't so pleasant being Dick tonight.....

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

I would say, with impetuous certainty, that I really do control this
liberal and that weenie from the Bay Area who's up next, like a
surgeon. As they were in such a furious rush to respond to my
ridicule of all three, they made it worse by not reading my friend
Dick's last post. God, what a GREAT country this is, and what
PRESCIOUS times these are!!! Watching these bozos stepping all over
each other is is almost as good as Clinton being publicly humiliated
when their hero said "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!"!!!!!

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
> <robsinger1111@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been posting up a storm the last few days trying to get

the

spotlight off Dick and the Administrator and back on me (where it
belongs) and I'm just being ignored. It's time to manipulate a
response by directing some abuse at two readers who can really

affirm

my low esteem.
>

> I'm sure both are laughing uncontrollably as your "projections"
tell
> the world EXACTLY what you're feeling. It is truly funny to see

you

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "2-WILD" <lucky4K@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
> undress yourself in front of everyone. They have no need to
comment,
> you are doing it for them.
>
> PS. I especially liked your last post. Chuckle, chuckle.
>

Actually I'm just waiting for the social leper ... who delights in
parading naked under the spotlight ... to show me some new skin
lesions. At this point, he probably needs to tear off his diseased
nose to get his self-esteem any lower.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:
> Once again you digress. I can only assume you now understand I am
> absolutely right. Of course they don't "need" to see anything.
> However, if you have an auditor that thinks you may be lying, all
the
> evidence you produce to VERIFY your documentation works to your
> advantage. If you don't produce this type of verifcation the
auditor
> may wonder why and that certainly will work against you. If you
can't
> understand this simple concept then there is little I can do to
> educate you. You are beyond hope.

You've just unveiled another problem you possess that's generally
reserved for the insanely neurotic who believe everyone's out to

get

them. The only thing that gets accomplished when you "pull out"

those

win/loss statements is the auditor will at that point begin to
distrust anything you're saying. They're not as stupid as you like

to

think everyone but you are. Those artificial statements aren't
accepted as proof for a reason. Again, your theory vs. reality.
That's why you lose every time.

Once I got past your humorous projection keep in mind that from what
I've read (and stated previously) the auditors ASK for the win/loss
statements. So, you're telling other people they should ignore the
auditors requests ... LMAO. That's the last thing anyone should ever
do.

> Another one of Robbie's content-less statements. I'm still

waiting

> for a reference to where you said I lied. Personally, I think
> this "projection" on your part is pretty informative.

Why, you're lying right now!

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. Caught with your pants down yet again.

> Also, I'm sure other's have noticed you feel you must comment on
> everyone of my posts.

So you've finally come out of your shell on it, hey?! It's kinda
difficult dealing with a person who knows what they're doing, isn't
it big guy....after years of feeling so vastly superior at home by
brow-beating a women. What goes around truly does come around.

This projection is really informative. Your poor wife. Don't you
think you should seek professional help for her sake if nothing else.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> > I just walked in from 3 enjoyable hours of installing KC

driving

> lights
> > on my truck, and it hit me out of thin air! After coming to
Dick's
> > rescue and trying their best time after time to ease his Singer-
> pain so
> > many times, where in the world are Meldrone and 2-Wild when he
now
> > needs them the most as he's getting his clocked cleaned for
actions
> not
> > becoming a geek?
>
> I'm sure both are laughing uncontrollably as your "projections"
tell
> the world EXACTLY what you're feeling. It is truly funny to see

you

> undress yourself in front of everyone. They have no need to
comment, you are doing it for them.

HAHAHA! Think again, projectionist!!!!

> PS. I especially liked your last post. Chuckle, chuckle.

Translation: It ain't so pleasant being Dick tonight.....

It looks like Robbie is back copying my style again. His envy shows
up in everything he does. You gotta love it ...

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

Once I got past your humorous projection keep in mind that from

what

I've read (and stated previously) the auditors ASK for the win/loss
statements. So, you're telling other people they should ignore the
auditors requests ... LMAO. That's the last thing anyone should

ever do.

You're funny. Instead of researching the Tax court case I mentioned
from 6-8 years ago where it was determined (and the policy put into
place in the IRS Field Agent Manual #IRS-375.16(cc.1) which I've seen
at my daughter's house) you continue to pretend "something you read
on the Internet" takes legal precedence. But I like it. It only shows
how convoluted your thoughts are as your mind continues to erode from
spending all that time gambling for points (giggle giggle!) every day.
  

> So you've finally come out of your shell on it, hey?! It's kinda
> difficult dealing with a person who knows what they're doing,

isn't it big guy....after years of feeling so vastly superior at home
by brow-beating a women. What goes around truly does come around.

This projection is really informative. Your poor wife. Don't you
think you should seek professional help for her sake if nothing

else.

I'll be happy to leave my DIRECT HIT statement in there for maximum
effect! While I couldn't fathom dragging my "poor wife" into casino
after casino day after day after brow-beating her into submission
born out of the incredibly serious gambling problem that your family
obviously has, I understand you have no other way to respond. I
really do. BTW--this post is the first ever I asked my wife to read
of anything I've ever written on a forum. Her response about you and
your neurosis? That must be one messed up life---and he actually
dragged his wife into the addiction? When I told her YUP, she said,
and I quote: "and don't think he doesn't have a history of physical
abuse either!" God, I think she hit the nail squarely on the head!!
When she asked me why I thought that was something to laugh at, I
said "if you only knew....". She looks at daily gamblers as sick
anyway so it's no surprise. Her final thought: I should leave the
poor guy alone. she obviously has no idea how much fun making a zero
like you look like a zero! And you should have heard he laugh upon
hearing the ass-wringing you're taking from the administrator after
making believe you know it all!! And I'll add some in: HAHAHAHA!!!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

One can only agonize over how foolish you must feel in the eyes of
everyone reading as you, the Internet troll who tries SO HARD to look
like a vp know-it-all, were put in your rightful place by the
administrator! I've never received more e-mails in my life telling me
how glad they were to see you and your pretend big-deal attitude get
slapped down and minimalized. Most commented over your disdain of Bob
Dancer and how you deserved the scolding. And they ALL told me how I've
gotten it right about you and your phony baloney over the years. You
are SOOO exposed!!

A big win tonight as in all nights for the Singer delegation!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

> Translation: It ain't so pleasant being Dick tonight.....

It looks like Robbie is back copying my style again. His envy shows
up in everything he does. You gotta love it ...

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> Once I got past your humorous projection keep in mind that from
what
> I've read (and stated previously) the auditors ASK for the

win/loss

> statements. So, you're telling other people they should ignore

the

> auditors requests ... LMAO. That's the last thing anyone should
ever do.

You're funny. Instead of researching the Tax court case I mentioned
from 6-8 years ago where it was determined (and the policy put into
place in the IRS Field Agent Manual #IRS-375.16(cc.1) which I've

seen

at my daughter's house) you continue to pretend "something you read
on the Internet" takes legal precedence. But I like it. It only

shows

how convoluted your thoughts are as your mind continues to erode

from

spending all that time gambling for points (giggle giggle!) every

day.

Never said anything about "legal precedence", you are scrambling once
again. I simply stated that people have been told to bring win/loss
statements to an audit. You're stating they should ignore the
auditors requests. I think anyone would be a fool to ignore an
auditors request, but we already know you fit well into that
classifcation.

> > So you've finally come out of your shell on it, hey?! It's

kinda

> > difficult dealing with a person who knows what they're doing,
isn't it big guy....after years of feeling so vastly superior at

home

by brow-beating a women. What goes around truly does come around.

> This projection is really informative. Your poor wife. Don't you
> think you should seek professional help for her sake if nothing
else.

I'll be happy to leave my DIRECT HIT statement in there for maximum
effect! While I couldn't fathom dragging my "poor wife" into casino
after casino day after day after brow-beating her into submission
born out of the incredibly serious gambling problem that your

family

obviously has, I understand you have no other way to respond. I
really do. BTW--this post is the first ever I asked my wife to read
of anything I've ever written on a forum. Her response about you

and

your neurosis? That must be one messed up life---and he actually
dragged his wife into the addiction? When I told her YUP, she said,
and I quote: "and don't think he doesn't have a history of physical
abuse either!" God, I think she hit the nail squarely on the head!!
When she asked me why I thought that was something to laugh at, I
said "if you only knew....". She looks at daily gamblers as sick
anyway so it's no surprise. Her final thought: I should leave the
poor guy alone. she obviously has no idea how much fun making a

zero

like you look like a zero! And you should have heard he laugh upon
hearing the ass-wringing you're taking from the administrator after
making believe you know it all!! And I'll add some in: HAHAHAHA!!!

ROTFLMAO.

There's little doubt that you have abused your wife, you just said so
above (in so many words) ... get help for her sake.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> > Translation: It ain't so pleasant being Dick tonight.....

> It looks like Robbie is back copying my style again. His envy

shows

> up in everything he does. You gotta love it ...

One can only agonize over how foolish you must feel in the eyes of
everyone reading as you, the Internet troll who tries SO HARD to

look

like a vp know-it-all, were put in your rightful place by the
administrator! I've never received more e-mails in my life telling

me

how glad they were to see you and your pretend big-deal attitude

get

slapped down and minimalized. Most commented over your disdain of

Bob

Dancer and how you deserved the scolding. And they ALL told me how

I've

gotten it right about you and your phony baloney over the years.

You

are SOOO exposed!!

A big win tonight as in all nights for the Singer delegation!

Yup, I see they ALL posted right here supporting you. You don't
really think anyone believes this BS, do you? No one could be THAT
dense. Or, maybe you are ...

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

So people have been "told" to bring them to an audit? Very strange
indeed....the IRS telling us what to "bring to an audit"! Where do
you get such baloney? The IRS isn't allowed to tell anyone being
audited what to bring. They simply tell us to show them proof of what
was reported as income and losses, they tell us to produce proof of
where the cash to gamble came from and what we did with any winnings
afterwards, and if filing Schedule C they may or may not ask for
proof of deductions. The gamblers record and withdrawal/re-deposit
trackable bank statements satisfy the first, and a record of
expenditures, if accurate & complete, related to "C" satisfies the
2nd. When the subject does not have trackable bank statements the IRS
will then look for any loopholes we may have used to cover other
wins. For instance, many gamblers only report only W2G wins, and the
IRS knows people win without them also. They have a formula to
determine additional liability when records are
incomplete/suspicious. From what you're saying, you'd fall into that
category because Jean Scott says so.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

I simply stated that people have been told to bring win/loss
statements to an audit.

Exactly how someone rattled by what's been going on would react. Like I
need anyone to post support when I handle you like a surgeon....Admit
it--you've been smacked down a notch or two by the administrator lately
and it bothers you. And instead of whining about it in multiple posts,
just apologize for your ridiculous denial and move on. You know you
can't stand Bob Dancer and everyone on vpFREE has seen that. I merely
explain why you're so jealous and what drives you to your neorotic
claims about his posts.

Epilog: I enjoy watching someone else humiliate you for a change!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

Yup, I see they ALL posted right here supporting you. You don't
really think anyone believes this BS, do you? No one could be THAT
dense. Or, maybe you are ...

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

>I simply stated that people have been told to bring win/loss
> statements to an audit.

So people have been "told" to bring them to an audit? Very strange
indeed....the IRS telling us what to "bring to an audit"! Where do
you get such baloney?

I've read it several times from people writing about their audits.
Keep in mind that many people have nothing else to bring. Some of it
may be an intrepretation of what the IRS means when they ask for
records and some of it may be specifically requested. Difficult to
tell sometimes. However, THE POINT is they can serve a purpose if the
IRS decides a persons records are inadequate for any reason. Taking a
person to court when they have TWO records that support each other is
something the IRS is unlikely to do. Don't you agree?

The IRS isn't allowed to tell anyone being
audited what to bring. They simply tell us to show them proof of

what

was reported as income and losses, they tell us to produce proof of
where the cash to gamble came from and what we did with any

winnings

afterwards, and if filing Schedule C they may or may not ask for
proof of deductions.

I think many people believe win/loss statements are the ONLY "proof"
available since most people don't have spreadsheets and diaries like
I have. So, if the IRS tells them to bring "records" that is probably
what they bring.

The gamblers record and withdrawal/re-deposit
trackable bank statements satisfy the first, and a record of
expenditures, if accurate & complete, related to "C" satisfies the
2nd. When the subject does not have trackable bank statements the

IRS

will then look for any loopholes we may have used to cover other
wins. For instance, many gamblers only report only W2G wins, and

the

IRS knows people win without them also.

A rather interesting side note. One person recently mentioned on
VPFree they were audited BECAUSE they did not only report W2G wins.
They reported on their 1040 the actual session wins. Their conclusion
was the IRS only expects W2Gs wins and if there is a mismatch, the
chances of getting auditted increase significantly. This makes sense
since the IRS only gets reports of the W2Gs and about the only thing
a computer can do is compare that against gambling wins line item. If
there's a mismatch then the form gets marked for audit consideration.

They have a formula to
determine additional liability when records are
incomplete/suspicious. From what you're saying, you'd fall into

that

category because Jean Scott says so.

I keep a record of every session, so I guess you fall into the
category of "wrong again".

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> Yup, I see they ALL posted right here supporting you. You don't
> really think anyone believes this BS, do you? No one could be

THAT

> dense. Or, maybe you are ...

Exactly how someone rattled by what's been going on would react.

Like I

need anyone to post support when I handle you like a

surgeon....Admit

it--you've been smacked down a notch or two by the administrator

lately

and it bothers you.

It's only your jealousy of me that makes you want to interpret
anything in that manner. I've not had any posting privileges changed
so zilch on the "smacked down" claim. And, even if that were to
happen it wouldn't be a problem to me. I haven't seen any useful
information on VPfree in a long time. I provide much more to the
forum than I receive. Helping others is my primary motivation and it
is also what made me question the admins actions. He may have been
right or not, the problem with doing barrings in secret is we will
never know.

I caught the adminstrator doing retaliation for my comments about his
secretive barrings. The fact that all the notes that led to the
barrings came between the warning he sent to me and the post in
question is absolute proof of that fact. This points out the
administrator has some real problems with anyone challenging them. I
made my point and I'm pretty sure the admin knows I'm right. He also
knows that debating this with me is not in his best interest, hence,
he quit responding. Not all that different from you when you decide
to run away after losing every debate to me.

And instead of whining about it in multiple posts,
just apologize for your ridiculous denial and move on. You know you
can't stand Bob Dancer and everyone on vpFREE has seen that.

I have no problem with Bob in most regards. He posts lot's of good
information. His only problem is he tends to let his ego invade many
of his remarks. In many ways I think I've helped Bob with this
problem. Since I started calling him on this problem I think he has
cleaned up his fact considerably (although not completely). I realize
he is walking a tight line where he wants to come off as THE
confident expert. The more people value his knowledge, the more money
he will make. However, if people viewed him negatively then it could
hurt his sales. I'm pretty sure he is trying to find the right
balance ... it only makes business sense.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@> wrote:

I've read it several times from people writing about their audits.
Keep in mind that many people have nothing else to bring. Some of

it

may be an intrepretation of what the IRS means when they ask for
records and some of it may be specifically requested. Difficult to
tell sometimes. However, THE POINT is they can serve a purpose if

the IRS decides a persons records are inadequate for any reason.
Taking a person to court when they have TWO records that support each
other is something the IRS is unlikely to do. Don't you agree?

Not in this case. Those win/loss statements are viewed as something
important only to the inexperienced. That's why you read about them.
The IRS in tax court will simply say that the stmts. are unverifiable
as they relate to a person's gaming record because they only
incorporate play on a player's card when no one but the player knows
if other play ever occured, and in the case of table games--estimates
of play and results. They are disallowed as support.

I think many people believe win/loss statements are the

ONLY "proof"

available since most people don't have spreadsheets and diaries

like

I have. So, if the IRS tells them to bring "records" that is

probably

what they bring.

That's right, and that's why such people are eaten alive by audits.

A rather interesting side note. One person recently mentioned on
VPFree they were audited BECAUSE they did not only report W2G wins.
They reported on their 1040 the actual session wins. Their

conclusion was the IRS only expects W2Gs wins and if there is a
mismatch, the chances of getting auditted increase significantly.
This makes sense since the IRS only gets reports of the W2Gs and
about the only thing a computer can do is compare that against
gambling wins line item. If

there's a mismatch then the form gets marked for audit

consideration.

I saw that a while back, and it's the reason I did an article 3 weeks
ago on the subject. I know the IRS expects every penny won to be
included in the gaming record because I've been thru the audits and I
record every session. That's why I said a $15 win is as reportable as
a $15,000 win. I also checked with my son in-law and he read me over
the phone the statute requiring reporting any monies won--large or
small--as income. I can only guess that the vpFREE poster was making
it up or guessing, daydreaming when he or she wrote it, and/or it
could be the auditor did not yet have the proper experience to
address the issue. Auditors aren't dumb. They know everyone wins
something sometime and maybe lots of times that doesn't come with a
W2G. I regularly report winnings in excess of my W2G totals, and in 2
of the audits I only had to show the gaming record and that was that
I don't believe it triggers an audit.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

It's only your jealousy of me that makes you want to interpret
anything in that manner. I've not had any posting privileges

changed so zilch on the "smacked down" claim.

You didn't want to get it. Just the mere fact that you've been
reprimanded for your conduct is a giant slap in the face to you.

And, even if that were to

happen it wouldn't be a problem to me. I haven't seen any useful
information on VPfree in a long time.

That's because I don't post there. When I have, the admin. almost
always has edited my post out, and I accept it even though I know
most people want to read my views. I could always take an argument
with the guy over here but I don't. I also have the ability--as
you've repeatedly seen on LVA Sports & Free-For-All (and always under
my own name regardless what anyone likes to believe)--to "go around"
their blocks any time I choose, and I occasionally do so because
their moderators are hateful people. Not so here, so I respect what
happens.

I provide much more to the
forum than I receive. Helping others is my primary motivation and

it is also what made me question the admins actions.

You try to help people but you tell unmitigated lies about me all the
time whenever my name surfaces, and perhaps that's part of the
problem. I help hundreds and hundreds of players understand what
they're doing and how to enjoy it more and lose less/win for a
change, and I charge no one a thing for my time and my expenses. You
can't keep attacking the most important name in video poker and not
expect to feel the pinch in seemingly mysterious ways forever.

I have no problem with Bob in most regards. He posts lot's of good
information. His only problem is he tends to let his ego invade

many of his remarks.

Maybe it's better to respect the guy for his dedication to what he
does as I do, and then take this road: Only attack him for his
shameless self-promotion in every post so he can get at other
people's money. Everything he does is geared towards selling strategy
in whatever way he can. And if players can't see that no one--esp. in
his age bracket--would EVER work the jobs he does when he supposedly
can win tens of thousands at will just by playing a casino game, then
they're as blind as Stevie Wonder and they don't understand what
common sense really is. The same with Jean Scott. Everyone knows she
wants their money and that's the ONLY important thing to her. But
because of her marketing skills she's managed to have a decent sized
base of players believing in her $3 bill show, and her subjects are
more than happy to look the other way so as not to embarrass her.

In many ways I think I've helped Bob with this

problem. Since I started calling him on this problem I think he has
cleaned up his fact considerably (although not completely). I

realize

he is walking a tight line where he wants to come off as THE
confident expert. The more people value his knowledge, the more

money

he will make. However, if people viewed him negatively then it

could

hurt his sales. I'm pretty sure he is trying to find the right
balance ... it only makes business sense.

It's more like he NEEDS to balance it all out. Sales and appearances
depend on it. And you still believe he makes money playing? Just like
those sports-betting bazooka's over on LVA Sports and other sites,
you see most of the names selling or trying to sell either picks or
math work ups that help predictions. And they give the same dumb
argument you see whenever I criticize the vp gurus for taking other
people's money to gamble with. "So what if they want to make more
money?" Here's why it's hypoctitical. If you're so good at gambling,
JUST WIN MORE. Ask any of these people 20 years ago what they'd have
said if they could predict their futures. Would they say "My dream is
to become a professional gambler who wins...AND WHO WORKS!" Of course
not. They all would want the easy life I have, only maybe they just
didn't prepare for it right. Look at slick story-tellers like
Stanford Wong and Anthony Curtis among many others. They would have
the gambling world believe they are barred from everywhere important
so they had to turn to the gambling business to make a living, yet I
didn't accept the BS and I checked before I did my article on it. So
if you're thinking you helped tame Dancer, I'm not so sure. If I were
you I'd work on giving Dan Paymar a lesson on how NOT to present
himself on the forums....or maybe seeing if you can get Eliot Fromm
to stop repeating all the nonsense his father wrote years ago.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:

> It's only your jealousy of me that makes you want to interpret
> anything in that manner. I've not had any posting privileges
changed so zilch on the "smacked down" claim.

You didn't want to get it. Just the mere fact that you've been
reprimanded for your conduct is a giant slap in the face to you.

Are you referring to that "friendly email" from the admin? Sorry to
disappoint you but that kind of retaliatory BS only makes the
administrator look foolish. I took great joy in pointing out his lack
of ethics in an obvious attempt to quiet me. However, I do appreciate
you bringing this subject up again so I can continue to comment on it.

And, even if that were to
> happen it wouldn't be a problem to me. I haven't seen any useful
> information on VPfree in a long time.

That's because I don't post there. When I have, the admin. almost
always has edited my post out, and I accept it even though I know
most people want to read my views. I could always take an argument
with the guy over here but I don't. I also have the ability--as
you've repeatedly seen on LVA Sports & Free-For-All (and always

under

my own name regardless what anyone likes to believe)--to "go

around"

their blocks any time I choose, and I occasionally do so because
their moderators are hateful people. Not so here, so I respect what
happens.

Going around is easy. Create another email id is all it takes. I hope
you don't think that is difficult.

In most respects I am against heavy handed moderation as well.
However, you are your own worst enemy by the overall negative nature
of the vast majority of your posts. Take vp.com for example, the
moderator gave you THREE chances. If you would lighten up a little
you wouldn't have a problem and you'd probably enjoy it more as well.

>I provide much more to the
> forum than I receive. Helping others is my primary motivation and
it is also what made me question the admins actions.

You try to help people but you tell unmitigated lies about me all

the

time whenever my name surfaces, and perhaps that's part of the
problem.

Name one.

I help hundreds and hundreds of players understand what
they're doing and how to enjoy it more and lose less/win for a
change, and I charge no one a thing for my time and my expenses.

You

can't keep attacking the most important name in video poker and not
expect to feel the pinch in seemingly mysterious ways forever.

See, you can't go a single sentence without lying. You are helping no
one by telling them to play on negative expectation machines with a
mathematically neutral progression. If you simply stated a
progression changes the dynamics of playing VP then no one would
argue with you. Winning more sessions is probably enough to satisfy
some gamblers. It's when you claim it is the ONLY way to win that
gets you in a lot of trouble.

I've told you for years that the math behind VP is relatively simple.
There will be lots of winners if they are playing the opportunities
available today. Of course, there will also be a few losers who are
just unlucky to be at the wrong end of the bell curve or didn't
understand the proper way to decipher these opportunities.

> I have no problem with Bob in most regards. He posts lot's of

good

> information. His only problem is he tends to let his ego invade
many of his remarks.

Maybe it's better to respect the guy for his dedication to what he
does as I do, and then take this road: Only attack him for his
shameless self-promotion in every post so he can get at other
people's money. Everything he does is geared towards selling

strategy

in whatever way he can. And if players can't see that no one--esp.

in

his age bracket--would EVER work the jobs he does when he

supposedly

can win tens of thousands at will just by playing a casino game,

then

they're as blind as Stevie Wonder and they don't understand what
common sense really is.

I thought you were a good capitalist. I have never had a problem with
Bob selling product. It's the American way. I do have a problem when
he demeans others or criticizes other products unnecessarily.

The same with Jean Scott. Everyone knows she
wants their money and that's the ONLY important thing to her. But
because of her marketing skills she's managed to have a decent

sized

base of players believing in her $3 bill show, and her subjects are
more than happy to look the other way so as not to embarrass her.

Once again I have no problem with Jean making a buck. The FACT is she
has helped thousands of players understand casino comps, etc. I
really think GWB would be angry with you for taking this stand
against capitalism.

Both Bob and Jean have provided products that support the
mathematically proven, optimal approach to VP. That is why they have
been successful.

In many ways I think I've helped Bob with this
> problem. Since I started calling him on this problem I think he

has

> cleaned up his fact considerably (although not completely). I
realize
> he is walking a tight line where he wants to come off as THE
> confident expert. The more people value his knowledge, the more
money
> he will make. However, if people viewed him negatively then it
could
> hurt his sales. I'm pretty sure he is trying to find the right
> balance ... it only makes business sense.

It's more like he NEEDS to balance it all out. Sales and

appearances

depend on it. And you still believe he makes money playing?

I have no idea what "plays" Bob is involved in and whether he has
been successful. However, I know from my own experience that winning
is a natural effect of playing with an advantage. Given Bob's obvious
knowledge inherent in his writings, the logical conclusion would be
he wins overall when CB, BB and cash-valued comps are considered.

Just like
those sports-betting bazooka's over on LVA Sports and other sites,
you see most of the names selling or trying to sell either picks or
math work ups that help predictions. And they give the same dumb
argument you see whenever I criticize the vp gurus for taking other
people's money to gamble with. "So what if they want to make more
money?" Here's why it's hypoctitical. If you're so good at

gambling,

JUST WIN MORE.

That is enough for most professionals. Bob is only one of many, many
pros out there who are making a living playing VP. However, IMO Bob
also likes the limelight and that has motivated him to venture out
into other aspects of the business.

Ask any of these people 20 years ago what they'd have
said if they could predict their futures. Would they say "My dream

is

to become a professional gambler who wins...AND WHO WORKS!" Of

course

not. They all would want the easy life I have, only maybe they just
didn't prepare for it right. Look at slick story-tellers like
Stanford Wong and Anthony Curtis among many others. They would have
the gambling world believe they are barred from everywhere

important

so they had to turn to the gambling business to make a living, yet

I

didn't accept the BS and I checked before I did my article on it.

So

if you're thinking you helped tame Dancer, I'm not so sure. If I

were

you I'd work on giving Dan Paymar a lesson on how NOT to present
himself on the forums....or maybe seeing if you can get Eliot Fromm
to stop repeating all the nonsense his father wrote years ago.

Once again you only criticize those who have profited outside of the
playing opportunities. GWB would not be happy. The only question
should be whether they are ethical in their businesses. If not, then
you have a right to complain, but only complain about those ethics
problems, not that they are living the American dream.

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