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#21

So THAT's why you suffer such envy over me. You really believe all that
stuff about my being in the top 2% of your anal simulations. Oh My God!
Those stupid sims are really wet farts!! Only he makes believe about
that aspect too!!!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

Not really. The simulations will play much better than you could ever
play. As such, they provide a best result. The reality is real people
will probably do much worse which makes it even more unlikely for
anyone to have success with your system. That's why you are such a
little man.

#22

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>

wrote:

> Dicky the denyer doesn't drink. He can't afford both vices.

I never said that. You can't get anything right, can you? I never

drink WHEN I GAMBLE. Otherwise I will have a drink now and then. And, I
am not a alcoholic like little man Robbie.

Oops! Hit that nerve under that thin skin again! Now THERE's a trait
leftover from being king of the nerds in high school.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#23

You really believe all that
stuff about my being in the top 2% of your anal simulations.

I do believe anal is a good description of your system. I like your
wording ... simulation of the anal Rob Singer system. Works for me.
However, the sinm is accurate. Of course, you already knew that. That
is why you kept asking for more information as I was putting the sim
together.

Oh My God!
Those stupid sims are really wet farts!! Only he makes believe about
that aspect too!!!

I see you're showing your mental capabilities again. Those stupid pills
you've been taking are working.

Since others have taken an interest in these discussions maybe we
should we get back to the Indian gaming discussion again where I
demonstrated that you will lie and eventually back down? Or maybe, we
should get back to discussing your "anal" system that I have shown to
be worthless beyond any doubt. Or maybe you can tell us why you've been
fired a couple times. That would be interesting.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...> wrote:

#24

I do believe anal is a good description of your system. I like your
wording ... simulation of the anal Rob Singer system. Works for me.
However, the sinm is accurate. Of course, you already knew that.

That is why you kept asking for more information as I was putting the
sim together.

Zziiinnnggg! Right over you head....or should I say THROUGH
it....again! I know how 'anal' you are about everything you do---
imagine waking up next to you in the morning! Like at the crack of a
whip, I can get you to waste more time and do more things than even
your wife on speed. All you neurotically anal-retentive geels are the
same---last word, the need to make yourself feel good after somebody
else smacks you down, and they'll spend HOURS doing it! You're like a
pathetically sad puppet on my string, and I'm lovin' every minute of
it more than you'll ever know.

> Oh My God!
> Those stupid sims are really wet farts!! Only he makes believe

about that aspect too!!!

Since others have taken an interest in these discussions maybe we
should we get back to the Indian gaming discussion again where I
demonstrated that you will lie and eventually back down? Or maybe,

we should get back to discussing your "anal" system that I have shown
to be worthless beyond any doubt. Or maybe you can tell us why you've
been fired a couple times. That would be interesting.

I really believe anyone who tunes in here does so to witness you're
assassination because they can't stand your corny rhetoric on the
other forums when you think you're cunning and serious. People can
tell whenever someone who likes to think they're one-up on everyone
else--like you did when you got mauled by Dancer. On the other hand
I'm hardly as interesting. People get to read all about me and my
views everywhere else. Just like why they go to see hockey games--
except for geels of course, who go to see "SCORING" (hahahahaha)--
they enjoy seeing you knocked down, and whenever you try to get up
they LOVE to see a nerdy idiot stomped on again! Don'tcha just love
it!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#25

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> I do believe anal is a good description of your system. I like

your

> wording ... simulation of the anal Rob Singer system. Works for

me.

> However, the sinm is accurate. Of course, you already knew that.
That is why you kept asking for more information as I was putting

the

sim together.

Zziiinnnggg! Right over you head....or should I say THROUGH
it....again! I know how 'anal' you are about everything you do---
imagine waking up next to you in the morning! Like at the crack of

a

whip, I can get you to waste more time and do more things than even
your wife on speed. All you neurotically anal-retentive geels are

the

same---last word, the need to make yourself feel good after

somebody

else smacks you down, and they'll spend HOURS doing it! You're like

a

pathetically sad puppet on my string, and I'm lovin' every minute

of

it more than you'll ever know.

Oh how he loves to babble when I hit the nail on the head. THE ANAL
SINGER SYSTEM should be your next headline. You can tell everyone how
you thought real hard and since your head was already up there you
decided to use call it the ANAL system.

> > Oh My God!
> > Those stupid sims are really wet farts!! Only he makes believe
about that aspect too!!!

> Since others have taken an interest in these discussions maybe we
> should we get back to the Indian gaming discussion again where I
> demonstrated that you will lie and eventually back down? Or

maybe,

we should get back to discussing your "anal" system that I have

shown

to be worthless beyond any doubt. Or maybe you can tell us why

you've

been fired a couple times. That would be interesting.

I really believe anyone who tunes in here does so to witness you're
assassination because they can't stand your corny rhetoric on the
other forums when you think you're cunning and serious. People can
tell whenever someone who likes to think they're one-up on everyone
else--like you did when you got mauled by Dancer.

I've never had a debate with Dancer. Are you fast asleep? Wake up
little man and try to keep up with me. I know that's impossible but
at least try.

#26

> Zziiinnnggg! Right over you head....or should I say THROUGH
> it....again! I know how 'anal' you are about everything you do---
> imagine waking up next to you in the morning! Like at the crack

of a whip, I can get you to waste more time and do more things than
even your wife on speed. All you neurotically anal-retentive geeks
are the same---last word, the need to make yourself feel good after

somebody else smacks you down, and they'll spend HOURS doing it!

You're like a pathetically sad puppet on my string, and I'm lovin'
every minute of it more than you'll ever know.

Oh how he loves to babble when I hit the nail on the head. THE ANAL
SINGER SYSTEM should be your next headline. You can tell everyone

how you thought real hard and since your head was already up there
you decided to use call it the ANAL system.

More corn. I mean, 'anal singer system' isn't even dry humor and
wouldn't even be laughed at in the UK--the home of dry humor. Poor
effort, little dicky. Please try harder. I left my truth abbove in
for you to give it another go.

I've never had a debate with Dancer. Are you fast asleep? Wake up
little man and try to keep up with me. I know that's impossible but
at least try.

Oh, you know you did. Just take a look back at vpFREE when you were
both scolded by the Administrator and sent over here for you to take
your lashing. PLEASE try harder.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#27

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

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> > Zziiinnnggg! Right over you head....or should I say THROUGH
> > it....again! I know how 'anal' you are about everything you do--

-

> > imagine waking up next to you in the morning! Like at the crack
of a whip, I can get you to waste more time and do more things than
even your wife on speed. All you neurotically anal-retentive geeks
are the same---last word, the need to make yourself feel good after
> somebody else smacks you down, and they'll spend HOURS doing it!
You're like a pathetically sad puppet on my string, and I'm lovin'
every minute of it more than you'll ever know.
>
> Oh how he loves to babble when I hit the nail on the head. THE

ANAL

> SINGER SYSTEM should be your next headline. You can tell everyone
how you thought real hard and since your head was already up there
you decided to call it the ANAL system.

More corn. I mean, 'anal singer system' isn't even dry humor and
wouldn't even be laughed at in the UK--the home of dry humor. Poor
effort, little dicky. Please try harder. I left my truth abbove in
for you to give it another go.

You were the one who came up with "anal". I just agreed that it
applied to your system. Essentially you just slammed yourself. Nice
going little man.

> I've never had a debate with Dancer. Are you fast asleep? Wake up
> little man and try to keep up with me. I know that's impossible

but

> at least try.

Oh, you know you did. Just take a look back at vpFREE when you were
both scolded by the Administrator and sent over here for you to

take

your lashing. PLEASE try harder.

Once more, you show your total incompetence ... I had a disagreement
with the VPFree Admininstrator, not Bob Dancer. The new admin
objected to one of my posts. I was never "sent over here". One of
these days you will get something right. However, I'm not sure it
will be this year ... or next. The nice thing about these kind of
screw ups on your part is that they demonstrate what kind of
character you have. Even though I have now corrected you on this
matter you will continue to carry on as if you were right without
admitting you blew it. You know, just like the debate on Indian
Gaming; the debates on the validity of your ANAL system; and your
jealous attempts to figure out who I am.

#28

> More corn. I mean, 'anal singer system' isn't even dry humor and
> wouldn't even be laughed at in the UK--the home of dry humor.

Poor effort, little dicky. Please try harder. I left my truth abbove
in for you to give it another go.

You were the one who came up with "anal". I just agreed that it
applied to your system. Essentially you just slammed yourself. Nice
going little man.

ANAL is a natural fit for geeks who live their live as if in a
controlled mathematically induced environment. You fit that scenario,
and in fact, you've taken it a bit further by testing out the theory
of what it's like to be a completely overwhelmed addict gambler.
Let's hope your sad story never reaches the High School rank of nerds.

> Oh, you know you did. Just take a look back at vpFREE when you

were both scolded by the Administrator and sent over here for you to

take your lashing. PLEASE try harder.

Once more, you show your total incompetence ... I had a

disagreement

with the VPFree Admininstrator, not Bob Dancer. The new admin
objected to one of my posts. I was never "sent over here".

I see dicky the denyer is in full action again. You were admonished
for writing your normal corny BS on vpFREE about Dancer that made no
sense (of course, all the time believing no way could anyone do that
yo YOU--esp. after such a traumatic and flubbed-up childhood as an up-
and-coming nerd). Over here you were sent to continue your childish
tirade. And this is where you got yet another spanking.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#29

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

> > More corn. I mean, 'anal singer system' isn't even dry humor

and

> > wouldn't even be laughed at in the UK--the home of dry humor.
Poor effort, little dicky. Please try harder. I left my truth

abbove

in for you to give it another go.
>
> You were the one who came up with "anal". I just agreed that it
> applied to your system. Essentially you just slammed yourself.

Nice

> going little man.

ANAL is a natural fit for geeks

That's why it applies so nicely to you and your system.

> > Oh, you know you did. Just take a look back at vpFREE when you
were both scolded by the Administrator and sent over here for you

to

> take your lashing. PLEASE try harder.

> Once more, you show your total incompetence ... I had a
disagreement
> with the VPFree Admininstrator, not Bob Dancer. The new admin
> objected to one of my posts. I was never "sent over here".

I see dicky the denyer is in full action again. You were admonished
for writing your normal corny BS on vpFREE about Dancer that made

no

sense

Everyone knows this is a lie. If you have some facts lets' see the
actual quotes. It's all still on VPFree in the archives. You don't
have any? Know why? Because this is just another sad attempt on your
part avoid looking like a complete fool. It didn't work.

Once again my prediction is right on the money. I said the little man
would deny that he was wrong even when presented with the facts. Why
am I always right and little man Robbie always wrong? Simple, it's
because I only deal with the facts.

So, little man I think we should get back to discussing YOUR claims.
I just discovered that I overstated the potential success rate of
Robbies' anal system. He has claimed an 88% session win rate which I
discovered to be in the top 2% of possible results. However, when I
ran that sim I used a 6 level progression for EVERY session. Rob says
he only uses 6 levels about 10% of the time. When I went back and
used that as a base I could not come up with a single sim of 250
sessions (I tried over 300 sims) that generates over an 80% success
rate. In fact, even when I raised the percentage of 6 level
progressions to 50%, I couldn't come up with a single result at 88%
or better in over 1000 sims.

In addition, he claims his largest loss is 34K. Interestingly, the
average loss of the 6 level progression is around 45K. Even if he has
only played a total of 25 (10% of 250) 6 level progressions it seems
HIGHLY unlikely he wouldn't have a single loss within 10K of the
average loss.

What does this mean? I suspect it means that Rob has not been
completely honest. What a surprise. I should note that I still do
come up with (250 session) win amounts equal to or better than Robs'
claimed 650K.

There are just a few ways to explain these discrepancies. He could be
supplementing his wins as he goes (good reason to dislike onlookers)
with money obtained from another source. This could also explains why
he doesn't use a players' card most of the time which would provide
evidence contrary to his claims.

Finally, a look at the system itself is somewhat informative. It is
complicated way beyond anything necessary to increase session win
rates. Pulling out 40 credits here and there only serves to reduce
the total number of hands played in any one session and actually
reduces the session win rate. Breaking up each level into a 100
credit Bonus Poker sublevel and a 300 credit high variance game
sublevel only reduces the overall payback due to the relatively low
payback of BP (at least in my sims since I used higher payback games
like TB+ and SDB as the high variance game). What this added
complexity does provide is the false impression that there is
something in the system that overcomes the casinos advantage. It is
snake oil at its' finest.

While it is impossible to provide 100% proof that Rob has been lying
about his gambling results, I do think the above items, taken
together and with his constant lies on other topics, should convince
any reasonable man that Robs' claims should not be trusted.

#30

> ANAL is a natural fit for geeks

That's why it applies so nicely to you and your system.

More corn. A slice of your 'American Culture"?

> I see dicky the denyer is in full action again. You were

admonished for writing your normal corny BS on vpFREE about Dancer
that made no sense

Everyone knows this is a lie. If you have some facts lets' see the
actual quotes. It's all still on VPFree in the archives. You don't
have any? Know why? Because this is just another sad attempt on

your part avoid looking like a complete fool. It didn't work.

Waa...waa...waa...... It's there and you know it, in between
whimpers, that is.

So, little man I think we should get back to discussing YOUR

claims. I just discovered that I overstated the potential success
rate of Robbies' anal system. He has claimed an 88% session win rate
which I discovered to be in the top 2% of possible results. However,
when I ran that sim I used a 6 level progression for EVERY session.
Rob says

he only uses 6 levels about 10% of the time. When I went back and
used that as a base I could not come up with a single sim of 250
sessions (I tried over 300 sims) that generates over an 80% success
rate. In fact, even when I raised the percentage of 6 level
progressions to 50%, I couldn't come up with a single result at 88%
or better in over 1000 sims.

In addition, he claims his largest loss is 34K. Interestingly, the
average loss of the 6 level progression is around 45K. Even if he

has

only played a total of 25 (10% of 250) 6 level progressions it

seems

HIGHLY unlikely he wouldn't have a single loss within 10K of the
average loss.

What does this mean? I suspect it means that Rob has not been
completely honest. What a surprise. I should note that I still do
come up with (250 session) win amounts equal to or better than

Robs'

claimed 650K.

There are just a few ways to explain these discrepancies. He could

be

supplementing his wins as he goes (good reason to dislike

onlookers)

with money obtained from another source. This could also explains

why

he doesn't use a players' card most of the time which would provide
evidence contrary to his claims.

Finally, a look at the system itself is somewhat informative. It is
complicated way beyond anything necessary to increase session win
rates. Pulling out 40 credits here and there only serves to reduce
the total number of hands played in any one session and actually
reduces the session win rate. Breaking up each level into a 100
credit Bonus Poker sublevel and a 300 credit high variance game
sublevel only reduces the overall payback due to the relatively low
payback of BP (at least in my sims since I used higher payback

games

like TB+ and SDB as the high variance game). What this added
complexity does provide is the false impression that there is
something in the system that overcomes the casinos advantage. It is
snake oil at its' finest.

While it is impossible to provide 100% proof that Rob has been

lying

about his gambling results, I do think the above items, taken
together and with his constant lies on other topics, should

convince

any reasonable man that Robs' claims should not be trusted.

Waa....waaa.....waaa.....

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

#31

Rob,
I've heard that casinos will rebate 10-15% of large losses. (I don't
know if it pertains to VP or not.) Do you have any personal
experience with this or know anything about it? For example, which
casinos do it and at what level does it kick in? 10,000? 100,000?
1,000,000?
Jeff

#32

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcole2003oct" <jeff-cole@c...>
wrote:

Rob,
I've heard that casinos will rebate 10-15% of large losses. (I don't
know if it pertains to VP or not.) Do you have any personal
experience with this or know anything about it? For example, which
casinos do it and at what level does it kick in? 10,000? 100,000?
1,000,000?
Jeff

I don't usually have large losses over $10,000 and I've never heard of
that other than for the table whales--and only then very selectively.
That would probably be a better question to pose on vpFREE, where
you'll get answers from a whole set of dreamers that will make up a
scenario as they would like it to be. I mean, anyone who asks Jean
Scott for bankroll advice has GOT to either be dreaming - or has just
landed here from another world.

#33

What are you two on a break? I think you're both
losing your edge here. Please use some mama jokes.

#34

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "worldbefree22001"
<krajewski.sa@p...> wrote:

What are you two on a break? I think you're both
losing your edge here. Please use some mama jokes.

There's just no pleasing some people :wink:

#35

I agree. Dick's been lit up here more than the laser that's responsible
for Jean Scott's facelifts. And you're not satisfied?

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "worldbefree22001"
<krajewski.sa@p...> wrote:
> What are you two on a break? I think you're both
> losing your edge here. Please use some mama jokes.

There's just no pleasing some people :wink:

#36

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@c...>
wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...>

wrote:

>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "worldbefree22001"
> <krajewski.sa@p...> wrote:
> > What are you two on a break? I think you're both
> > losing your edge here. Please use some mama jokes.

> There's just no pleasing some people :wink:

I agree. Dick's been lit up here more than the laser that's

responsible

for Jean Scott's facelifts. And you're not satisfied?

That's more like it RS, a solid and uncalled for low
blow to two seperate people. But we need more volume.
I'm starting to think you two have lost sight of
everything you stand to win here :slight_smile:

#37

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "worldbefree22001"
<krajewski.sa@p...> wrote:

That's more like it RS, a solid and uncalled for low
blow to two seperate people. But we need more volume.
I'm starting to think you two have lost sight of
everything you stand to win here :slight_smile:

My winning gets done in Nevada casinos....The Denyer's gets done in his
mind with phantom bucks a-flowing. This FreevpFree stuff is for
entertainment purposes only -- even though the content I post is true.
But really, the greatest entertainment isn't here, but on the real
thing--VPFREE! Ever see one of those vpFREE luncheon shots? No wonder
they eat at all the locals dive buffets where dicky eats. Would you let
that bunch into YOUR restaurant??

#38

But really, the greatest entertainment isn't here, but on
the real thing--VPFREE! Ever see one of those vpFREE
luncheon shots? No wonder they eat at all the locals dive
buffets where dicky eats. Would you let
that bunch into YOUR restaurant??

That's all 'ya got. I'll give you some credit for
slight creativity but I know you can do better. Aren't
there some handicapped people you can belittle?

#39

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "worldbefree22001"
<krajewski.sa@p...> wrote:

> But really, the greatest entertainment isn't here, but on
> the real thing--VPFREE! Ever see one of those vpFREE
> luncheon shots? No wonder they eat at all the locals dive
> buffets where dicky eats. Would you let
> that bunch into YOUR restaurant??

That's all 'ya got. I'll give you some credit for
slight creativity but I know you can do better. Aren't
there some handicapped people you can belittle?

Most of them scary looking addicts ARE handicapped!

#40

thing--VPFREE! Ever see one of those vpFREE luncheon shots? No wonder
they eat at all the locals dive buffets where dicky eats. Would you

let

that bunch into YOUR restaurant??

I ran across an interesting article the other day. It turns out that
individuals with BMIs in the 25-30 range have a longer life expectancy
than those with BMIs less than 25. (I know that most of you EXCEPT Rob
know about BMIs. Rob, it stands for Body Mass Index. Those in the 25-30
range are considered overweight. Those over 30 are considered obese.
Under 25 is considered normal.)

In the same article it supported the notion that the main cause of
obesity is dieting. It also supported the growing thinking that being
overweight, if still in shape, may be superior for many individuals.

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