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CP - anything left?

Has the siege ended? Are there any survivors? Would a vat of boiling oil have made any difference?
   
  Does anyone know if anything playable has survived? 3/5 play jacks? STP jacks? Nsud?
   
  Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of yet.....)-;
   
  Thanks,
   
  Jigger
  "When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes
the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself."
   
  "It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."
   
  "No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway."
  
  "If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts."
   
  "No one ever says "It's only a game,"
when their team is winning."

  "We are born naked, wet and hungry....Then things get worse."
   
  "This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me."

"There are more important things in life than money
- but women won't go out with you if you're broke."

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When they is one, will I be able to look? LOL!

.....bl

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jigger Woodruff <bayfieldkent@...> wrote:

   
  Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of yet.....)-;

Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will know
exactly where to find them!

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:20 PM
To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Has the siege ended? Are there any survivors? Would a vat of boiling oil
have made any difference?

Does anyone know if anything playable has survived? 3/5 play jacks? STP
jacks? Nsud?

Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of
yet.....)-;

Thanks,

Jigger
"When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes
the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself."

"It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."

"No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway."

"If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts."

"No one ever says "It's only a game,"
when their team is winning."

"We are born naked, wet and hungry....Then things get worse."

"This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me."

"There are more important things in life than money
- but women won't go out with you if you're broke."

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I think that we should all adopt a bit of your sarcasm, Randy. I know
that we have all seen, from time to time, good machines that seem
to "fall though the crack" and stay on the floor for long periods of
time. (Or, is that stay on the floor in spite of the cracks?)

But, then again, maybe the "suits" really know about these "maverick
machines" and are only playing with us?

(spoken like a real neurotic pessimist...LOL)

.....bl

Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs

will know

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@...> wrote:

exactly where to find them!

Harrahs does not know how to "play with us." They are run by the bean
counters. Period. I was told by a host at Caesars on Friday if I wanted to
bring in one extra person into the diamond lounge I had to have a
theoretical of $10,000 for the day. I don't know if he was serious or not
but my theoretical for the day was about $1500 and he was basically rude
when telling me no way would he "override" the system so I could bring in an
additional person. This is all "theoretical" win amounts, not coin-in.

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
bornloser1537
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:42 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: CP - anything left?

I think that we should all adopt a bit of your sarcasm, Randy. I know
that we have all seen, from time to time, good machines that seem
to "fall though the crack" and stay on the floor for long periods of
time. (Or, is that stay on the floor in spite of the cracks?)

But, then again, maybe the "suits" really know about these "maverick
machines" and are only playing with us?

(spoken like a real neurotic pessimist...LOL)

.....bl

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Randy C"
<randyc@...> wrote:

Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs

will know

exactly where to find them!

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Geez Randy, get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I'm sure that a Harrahs tech is glued to VPFree just waiting for the posts that indicate which machines he missed so he can dash to the floor and change 'em. How else would they know if they got all the machines?
   
  I thought you'd be in a better mood - didn't the Bruins finally win a football game yesterday? I guess even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then, huh? As bad as the Cougars are, thankfully there is Dorrell, Cable and the boys to make even WSU look good. (-;
   
  Jigger
  "You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you."

  "The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it
gets."

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Randy C <randyc@UCLAlumni.net> wrote:
          Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will know
exactly where to find them!

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:20 PM
To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Has the siege ended? Are there any survivors? Would a vat of boiling oil
have made any difference?

Does anyone know if anything playable has survived? 3/5 play jacks? STP
jacks? Nsud?

Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of
yet.....)-;

Thanks,

Jigger
"When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes
the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself."

"It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."

"No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway."

"If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts."

"No one ever says "It's only a game,"
when their team is winning."

"We are born naked, wet and hungry....Then things get worse."

"This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me."

"There are more important things in life than money
- but women won't go out with you if you're broke."

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Randy

I don't do this much anymore, but......I think I might have asked for a
supervisor. If host refused, get his name. Pick up a house phone and
try to get a super. Explain that you have always liked their casino but
you have comps at another place and you will go there "for the day".
However, they can say, "If you don't like it go play somewhere else."
What is it, about a 50 - 50 chance you will going to their place?

Your right, if the suit is not a gambler, he has no idea how to treat a
good customer.

Cheers..
.

Harrahs does not know how to "play with us." They are run by the bean
counters. Period. I was told by a host at Caesars on Friday if I

wanted to

bring in one extra person into the diamond lounge I had to have a
theoretical of $10,000 for the day. I don't know if he was serious or

not

but my theoretical for the day was about $1500 and he was basically

rude

when telling me no way would he "override" the system so I could

bring in an

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.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@...> wrote:

additional person. This is all "theoretical" win amounts, not coin-in.

If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I have some
beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:

As far as UCLA is concerned basically I quit watching them this year because
of their pathetic offensive coordinator. Then when I saw the highlights of
the Cal game and listened to Dorell in his press conference about how he was
20% involved in the play calling that week, not only did I watch them
against OSU but I made the biggest football bet by far, of any kind in my
life on the Bruins. Yes, I am in a good mood!

Harrahs does not put me in a bad mood because they act exactly as I expect
them to act.

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:30 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Geez Randy, get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I'm sure that
a Harrahs tech is glued to VPFree just waiting for the posts that indicate
which machines he missed so he can dash to the floor and change 'em. How
else would they know if they got all the machines?

I thought you'd be in a better mood - didn't the Bruins finally win a
football game yesterday? I guess even a blind pig finds an acorn now and
then, huh? As bad as the Cougars are, thankfully there is Dorrell, Cable and
the boys to make even WSU look good. (-;

Jigger
"You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you."

"The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it
gets."

Randy C <randyc@UCLAlumni. <mailto:randyc%40UCLAlumni.net> net> wrote:
Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will know
exactly where to find them!

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:20 PM
To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Has the siege ended? Are there any survivors? Would a vat of boiling oil
have made any difference?

Does anyone know if anything playable has survived? 3/5 play jacks? STP
jacks? Nsud?

Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of
yet.....)-;

Thanks,

Jigger
"When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes
the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself."

"It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."

"No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway."

"If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts."

"No one ever says "It's only a game,"
when their team is winning."

"We are born naked, wet and hungry....Then things get worse."

"This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me."

"There are more important things in life than money
- but women won't go out with you if you're broke."

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okay, I'm always lookin' for good real estate deals.............
   
  How can you not like Cable? Mr. Personality? Ran Idaho into the ground, alienated all the local high school coaches, and was horrible with the alumni and press. When Dorell gets the ax - someday - he can look back fondly on that hire.
   
  You picked UCLA over the Beavers? - they were on a roll. Glad you dug up that acorn............. (-;
   
  I'd cut the crap off this message but I still can't figure out what setting on Yahoo does that..........
   
  SK

As far as UCLA is concerned basically I quit watching them this year because
of their pathetic offensive coordinator. Then when I saw the highlights of
the Cal game and listened to Dorell in his press conference about how he was
20% involved in the play calling that week, not only did I watch them
against OSU but I made the biggest football bet by far, of any kind in my
life on the Bruins. Yes, I am in a good mood!

Harrahs does not put me in a bad mood because they act exactly as I expect
them to act.

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:30 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Geez Randy, get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I'm sure that
a Harrahs tech is glued to VPFree just waiting for the posts that indicate
which machines he missed so he can dash to the floor and change 'em. How
else would they know if they got all the machines?

I thought you'd be in a better mood - didn't the Bruins finally win a
football game yesterday? I guess even a blind pig finds an acorn now and
then, huh? As bad as the Cougars are, thankfully there is Dorrell, Cable and
the boys to make even WSU look good. (-;

Jigger
"You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you."

"The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it
gets."

Randy C <randyc@UCLAlumni. <mailto:randyc%40UCLAlumni.net> net> wrote:
Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will know
exactly where to find them!

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Jigger Woodruff
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:20 PM
To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [vpFREE] CP - anything left?

Has the siege ended? Are there any survivors? Would a vat of boiling oil
have made any difference?

Does anyone know if anything playable has survived? 3/5 play jacks? STP
jacks? Nsud?

Lots of reports, but I haven't seen the final autopsy reports as of
yet.....)-;

Thanks,

Jigger
"When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes
the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself."

"It IS as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."

"No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway."

"If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts."

"No one ever says "It's only a game,"
when their team is winning."

"We are born naked, wet and hungry....Then things get worse."

"This Would Be Really Funny If It Weren't Happening To Me."

"There are more important things in life than money
- but women won't go out with you if you're broke."

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Somewhere in the 100,000+ posts I've read in various forums regarding the Caesars VP downgrade, someone actually DID post a machine number. Unbelievable.

Randy C <randyc@UCLAlumni.net> wrote: Hey, great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will know
exactly where to find them!

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If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I

have some

beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:

Not only do they monitor this board, but they read Casino Player, a
magazine in which they heavily advertise. When one of their columinsts
bitch-slaps them, what do you think the response is going to be?

Hey, they still have single line $25 Jacks. I'm betting the theo isn't
4%.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@...> wrote:

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paladingaming.net

Well, let us all bow our heads and say goodbye to playable VP at
Caesars Palace. Listing the machines doesn't make a difference; any
casino can quickly print out every machine on the floor offering 9/6
JOB, and make the appropriate paytable changes during any evening
they wish. Assuming all the reports are true, I shall miss playing
9/6 JOB at Caesars, but can easily replace the experience by playing
9/6 JOB at the Suncoast or the Rampart.

Caesars decision to downgrade will actually save me gas money. But
just for spite, I hope the proposed buyout of HET collapses and that
more than a few executives see their paper profits vanish.

Somewhere in the 100,000+ posts I've read in various forums

regarding the Caesars VP downgrade, someone actually DID post a
machine number. Unbelievable.

Randy C <randyc@...> wrote: Hey,

great idea! Let's even list their machine numbers so Harrahs will
know

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjs <bjcm2472003@...> wrote:

exactly where to find them!

Charles wrote:

Listing the machines doesn't make a difference; any casino can quickly
print out every machine on the floor offering 9/6 JOB, and make the
appropriate paytable changes during any evening they wish.

I differ with your take. Even in light of the discussion on this
group, no casino is likely to scour their inventory for such machines
from a general reference. The cost/trouble, relative to the play
economics, isn't warranted. Besides, such discussion is notoriously
inaccurate (to varying degrees) and the casino might well find itself
on a wild goose chase.

However, if you list the specific machines here, you might as well
march into the casino and put a big sign on them.

- Harry

I don't subscribe to CP - who was this columnist? Can't be a secret - it was published!

If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I

have some

beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:

Not only do they monitor this board, but they read Casino Player, a
magazine in which they heavily advertise. When one of their columinsts
bitch-slaps them, what do you think the response is going to be?

Hey, they still have single line $25 Jacks. I'm betting the theo isn't
4%.

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paladingamingllc <paladingamingllc@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@...> wrote:

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paladingaming.net

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Hey Charles

Well said!!

Jeep

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <fromthevault@...> wrote
I shall miss playing

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9/6 JOB at Caesars, but can easily replace the experience by playing
9/6 JOB at the Suncoast or the Rampart.

Caesars decision to downgrade will actually save me gas money. But
just for spite, I hope the proposed buyout of HET collapses and that
more than a few executives see their paper profits vanish.

Well then show it to me. They assign a worker to log on each day to
find out the "goodies" ? C'mon now... I find it hard to believe that
they want to know what is in the minds of VP players( a small % of
overall gamblers ) who mostly play at local casinos anyway. Do you
have actual proof of this ?

                  Larry F.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@> wrote:

>
> If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I
have some
> beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:

Come on now. You blindly insist no one is on this board from Harrahs. Why
won't you blindly buy my property? It's really nice. Honest.

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
lfcmja2000
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:50 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: CP - anything left?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. <mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Randy C"
<randyc@> wrote:

>
> If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I
have some
> beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:

Well then show it to me. They assign a worker to log on each day to
find out the "goodies" ? C'mon now... I find it hard to believe that
they want to know what is in the minds of VP players( a small % of
overall gamblers ) who mostly play at local casinos anyway. Do you
have actual proof of this ?

Larry F.

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Why wouldn't they login to have this small group feed them info on some
of the games that AP'rs would play?

Another alternative.. even if they haven't officially assigned someone,
you don't think there's some mid-level suit who found this site and is
using the info to give to his/her bosses in an attempt to gain
recognition for a promotion? Seems reasonable to me....

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja2000" <lfcmja@...> wrote:

          --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@> wrote:
> >
> > If you really believe no one at Harrahs monitors this board then I
> have some
> > beachfront property here in LV I'd like to sell you! :slight_smile:
>

Well then show it to me. They assign a worker to log on each day to
find out the "goodies" ? C'mon now... I find it hard to believe that
they want to know what is in the minds of VP players( a small % of
overall gamblers ) who mostly play at local casinos anyway. Do you
have actual proof of this ?

Come on now. You blindly insist no one is on this board from Harrahs.

Why

won't you blindly buy my property? It's really nice. Honest.

I didn't "blindly insist." I just said show me some proof.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@...>
wrote:

Charles wrote:
> Listing the machines doesn't make a difference; any casino can

quickly

> print out every machine on the floor offering 9/6 JOB, and make

the

> appropriate paytable changes during any evening they wish.

I differ with your take. Even in light of the discussion on this
group, no casino is likely to scour their inventory for such

machines

from a general reference. The cost/trouble, relative to the play
economics, isn't warranted. Besides, such discussion is notoriously
inaccurate (to varying degrees) and the casino might well find

itself

on a wild goose chase.

However, if you list the specific machines here, you might as well
march into the casino and put a big sign on them.

- Harry

I was at Caesar's during part of the downgrade. I will tell you what
I observed and you can draw your own conclusions.

There were 4 technicians that were working on the machines. The
first tech was walking around with a list of machines. He would
match the list to the number on the machine and he would turn it off
once the player left. The second tech had a stack of printouts. he
would place the printout in the tray of a turned off machine. From
what I could gather, the printout listed the current setup for the
machine as well as the new setup. The other two techs did the
reprogramming. I watched while he reprogrammed the machine next to
me. The screen had a menu where he could choose which games would be
presented. He went through and removed all the games that did not
match the faceplate on the machine. The machine in question was an
aces and faces machine so he chose that game and activated it for the
machine. Once he chose the game, he was presented with another
screen that allowed him to choose the payout for the machine. Next
to each line it had the actual return percentages displayed. There
were 6 or 7 options listed and he chose the lowest one ( 96.??
couldn't quite see the last two digits ).

Watching this entire operation certainly convinced me that they know
exactly what is in their inventory at any given time.

The other strange thing that happened to me during this trip was that
while I was playing a Caesars change person came up to me and said
hello Mr. Jones how are you today. Just wanted to let you know that
we are greeting some of our special guests today and we just hope you
are having a good time" or something to that affect. After which
she called into her radio and said "yes sir, I greeted the guest and
everything is fine".

I found it a little disconcerting that they tracked me down to a
specific machine and greeted me by name. I guess their computer
system is a little better than we thought.