5 Dimes Casino/Sportsbook has full-pay JoB, DW, and JW for up to $5
coins. It's in their Bonus Casino (which is kinda funny cause there
are no bonuses, just full-pay VP).
Whether it is legit or not, who can tell. It would take a half-
million hands to identify whether ANY casino offers a fair game of VP.
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "grunduggerer" <empirecity@...>
wrote:
5 Dimes Casino/Sportsbook has full-pay JoB, DW, and JW for up to $5
coins. It's in their Bonus Casino (which is kinda funny cause there
are no bonuses, just full-pay VP).
I really want to try one of these places ... FPDW at 100.72 online has
got so much potential ... but given your further assertion that it
takes a LOT of hands to know if you're getting a fair deal ... ugh.
I'm having pulling the trigger, which sucks.
The paranoid streak in me thinks "Why should they offer FPDW? No one
else does."
I guess someone has to develop a bot for them and run it for a million
hands. That'd be a fair test.
I really want to try one of these places ... FPDW at 100.72 online
has
got so much potential ... but given your further assertion that it
takes a LOT of hands to know if you're getting a fair deal ... ugh.
I'm having pulling the trigger, which sucks.
Quote: "Why should they offer FPDW? No one else does."
My take on it: Online casinos do not have anywhere near the overhead and
expenses that a land-based casinos have. They can offer games with a better
payout and still make a decent profit. Just as in land-based casinos, there
will be a certain number of players who will not play perfect strategy. So,
these 'full pay' games do not *really* pay over 100% overall. There is a
lot of competition between online casinos. So, just like the locals
casinos, the casinos with better pay-outs probably get more players.
On 3/13/06, grunduggerer <empirecity@earthlink.net> wrote:
The paranoid streak in me thinks "Why should they offer FPDW? No one
else does."I guess someone has to develop a bot for them and run it for a million
hands. That'd be a fair test.> I really want to try one of these places ... FPDW at 100.72 online
has
> got so much potential ... but given your further assertion that it
> takes a LOT of hands to know if you're getting a fair deal ... ugh.
> I'm having pulling the trigger, which sucks.
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Perhaps, but this is one of the very few online casinos (of hundreds
I've seen) to ever offer FPDW for more than 5 cent coins. And they
offer it up to $5 coins.
Certainly, try it. It plays quite fast, too.
Quote: "Why should they offer FPDW? No one else does."
My take on it: Online casinos do not have anywhere near the
overhead and
expenses that a land-based casinos have. They can offer games with
a better
payout and still make a decent profit. Just as in land-based
casinos, there
will be a certain number of players who will not play perfect
strategy. So,
these 'full pay' games do not *really* pay over 100% overall.
There is a
lot of competition between online casinos. So, just like the locals
casinos, the casinos with better pay-outs probably get more players.
grunduggerer wrote:
5 Dimes Casino/Sportsbook has full-pay JoB, DW, and JW for up to $5
coins. It's in their Bonus Casino (which is kinda funny cause there
are no bonuses, just full-pay VP).
Whether it is legit or not, who can tell. It would take a half-
million hands to identify whether ANY casino offers a fair game of VP.
===========================================================
Thanks for the heads up on this casino. I ran Deuces Wild Full House
& Bonus through FVP and came up with a return of 100.207%. For Deuces
Wild Kind Bonus FVP gave 100.249%. Interesting games to say the
least. I liked the analysis that the Wizard gave this sight. For
those of you interested in better payouts on games you may have
played, you just have to check out the Bonus Casino---look at the
payouts for roulette. Here's the link:
Before I register for this place, does someone have a Marketing Code?
I'm assuming that having one has some sort of benefit.
I've played at 5Dimes since early 2000. They used to use the Unified
Gaming software in their casino and had a + BJ game. When deposit and
referral bonuses were added in, it was a very lucrative play.
I still play at their sportsbook as they often have unique prop lines
not offered anywhere else. I've made numerous cashouts and have never
had a problem. 5Dimes is among the most reputable operators out there
IMO.
They offer a 20% referral bonus in the form of sportsbook matchplay
(essentially making it worth 10% cash) up to $200. If you would like,
I will refer you and split my referral incentive with you 50/50. Email
me directly. Thanks.
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "jeffcole2003oct" <jeff-cole@...>
wrote:
Before I register for this place, does someone have a Marketing
Code?
I'm assuming that having one has some sort of benefit.
hockeystl wrote:
<snip>
They offer a 20% referral bonus in the form of sportsbook matchplay
(essentially making it worth 10% cash) up to $200. If you would
like, I will refer you and split my referral incentive with you
50/50. Email me directly. <snip>
=============================================================
This is something we should all do before registering at any
casino. I don't think it's even against the spirit of the casino's
intention---they just want more customers. Many casinos offer a
bonus for the "referer" as well as for the "referee." If person A
refers person B to the casino, person B subsequently loses $200,
person A gets a 35% kickback. Now I don't think you're supposed to
split that, but who cares? After all, aren't you refering a FRIEND?
Personally, I am thrilled to know about the 5Dimes offer mentioned
by grunduggerer and hockeystl, but I want to take advantage of some
of these other offers before I lower myself to 100.76%---that sounds
so good! 
Jeff
Ok ... how shall we work this out? I just signed up for 5Dimes. The deal thusfar is I put in $500 to play $0.25 FPDW. I requested that the $35 InstaCash fee be rebated, which it was immediately. When I've wagered $2500, they will give me a $100 bonus. So far, so good ... I just hit a Wild Royal.
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: jeffcole2003oct <jeff-cole@comcast.net>
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:19:22 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Online] Refer a Friend bonuses
This is something we should all do before registering at any
casino. I don't think it's even against the spirit of the casino's
intention---they just want more customers. Many casinos offer a
bonus for the "referer" as well as for the "referee." If person A
refers person B to the casino, person B subsequently loses $200,
person A gets a 35% kickback. Now I don't think you're supposed to
split that, but who cares? After all, aren't you refering a FRIEND?
Personally, I am thrilled to know about the 5Dimes offer mentioned
by grunduggerer and hockeystl, but I want to take advantage of some
of these other offers before I lower myself to 100.76%---that sounds
so good!
Jeff
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Don't shoot me, but the rules state that play in the Bonus Casino does not count towards a bonus.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian J. Haag
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_Online] Refer a Friend bonuses
Ok ... how shall we work this out? I just signed up for 5Dimes. The deal thusfar is I put in $500 to play $0.25 FPDW. I requested that the $35 InstaCash fee be rebated, which it was immediately. When I've wagered $2500, they will give me a $100 bonus. So far, so good ... I just hit a Wild Royal.
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I thought I said that. If Brian doesn't want to wager sports and
clear the bonus, he can probably just ask them to remove it.
Don't shoot me, but the rules state that play in the Bonus Casino
does not count towards a bonus.
From: Brian J. Haag
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_Online] Refer a Friend bonusesOk ... how shall we work this out? I just signed up for 5Dimes.
The deal thusfar is I put in $500 to play $0.25 FPDW. I requested
that the $35 InstaCash fee be rebated, which it was immediately.
When I've wagered $2500, they will give me a $100 bonus. So far, so
good ... I just hit a Wild Royal.
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <fred123@...> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Right ... the first agent had that wrong. Interesting wrinkle: FPDW is actually FP down to 1 coin. That is, you actually get 800 for the RF, even if you bet 1 coin.
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Fred <fred123@mts.net>
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:50:42 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_Online] Refer a Friend bonuses
Don't shoot me, but the rules state that play in the Bonus Casino does not count towards a bonus.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian J. Haag
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_Online] Refer a Friend bonuses
Ok ... how shall we work this out? I just signed up for 5Dimes. The deal thusfar is I put in $500 to play $0.25 FPDW. I requested that the $35 InstaCash fee be rebated, which it was immediately. When I've wagered $2500, they will give me a $100 bonus. So far, so good ... I just hit a Wild Royal.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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So, any trip reports on 5Dimes VP? Only way anyone will know if
they're legit or not. - grun
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J. Haag" <brian_haag@...>
wrote:
Right ... the first agent had that wrong. Interesting wrinkle: FPDW
is actually FP down to 1 coin. That is, you actually get 800 for the
RF, even if you bet 1 coin.
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@...
What is it that would tell us if it's legit? I haven't hit 4 deuces or a RF yet, but neither have I played 45k (and probably not 5k) hands ....
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: grunduggerer <empirecity@earthlink.net>
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:36:15 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Online] Re: Refer a Friend bonuses
So, any trip reports on 5Dimes VP? Only way anyone will know if
they're legit or not. - grun
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J. Haag" <brian_haag@...>
wrote:
Right ... the first agent had that wrong. Interesting wrinkle: FPDW
is actually FP down to 1 coin. That is, you actually get 800 for the
RF, even if you bet 1 coin.
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@...
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Was: [vpFREE_Online] Re: Refer a Friend bonuses
I've played nearly 4K hands. No deuces or RF either.
The game might be programmed to never hit deuces or RF's (on an even numbered day of the month) :).
Fred
What is it that would tell us if it's legit? I haven't hit 4 deuces or a RF yet, but neither have I played 45k (and probably not 5k) hands ....
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@yahoo.com
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Was: [vpFREE_Online] Re: Refer a Friend bonuses
I've played nearly 4K hands. No deuces or RF either.
The game might be programmed to never hit deuces or RF's (on an
even numbered day of the month) :).
Fred
What is it that would tell us if it's legit? I haven't hit 4
deuces or a RF yet, but neither have I played 45k (and probably not
5k) hands ....
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@...
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I hit deuces after about 450 hands yesterday. My first adventure
with 5 dimes was a couple of months ago, and I lost $250 playing
quarters and never hit anything above quads. Go figure. May the
cards be with you. Bill
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <fred123@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "bmorg_46" <bmorg_46@...>
wrote:
>
> Was: [vpFREE_Online] Re: Refer a Friend bonuses
>
> I've played nearly 4K hands. No deuces or RF either.
> The game might be programmed to never hit deuces or RF's (on an
even numbered day of the month) :).
> Fred
> What is it that would tell us if it's legit? I haven't hit 4
deuces or a RF yet, but neither have I played 45k (and probably
not
5k) hands ....
>
> Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>I hit deuces after about 450 hands yesterday. My first adventure
with 5 dimes was a couple of months ago, and I lost $250 playing
quarters and never hit anything above quads. Go figure. May the
cards be with you. Bill
I forgot to mention that none of those quads were deuces. I just
wanted to clarify that. May the cads be with you. Bill
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <fred123@> wrote:
Got dealt deuces this morning on $.25 after 5,600 hands total play. My first 5Dimes deuces.
Also, got a Lasseter's Premium Purse offer - deposit $100, bonus $100, WR $2000. That's 5% on $2000 coin in, plus cashback.
Although the wagering requirement is 2K or play to extinction, I do play more than the minimum if my funds haven't become extinct.
Jeff, or anybody, by how much does the extinction rule improve the EV? I think it must be a function of game volatility, bet size and the WR.
For Joker Poker, the bet sizes range from $.01 to $10 per hand.
Here's the exact rule:
"Players participating in this offer will be unable to withdraw their deposit or bonus from their player account until the amount of the player's deposit and bonus has been bet/wagered at least Ten (10) times or played to extinction."
This is a desirable rule. In the past, some casinos carried forward the wagering requirements if you tapped out. Also, in some promotions you don't get the bonus until you've met the wagering requirement.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: bmorg_46
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Online] Re: 5Dimes FPDW
I hit deuces after about 450 hands yesterday. My first adventure
with 5 dimes was a couple of months ago, and I lost $250 playing
quarters and never hit anything above quads. Go figure. May the
cards be with you. Bill
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How do you guys know how many hands you've played?
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: bmorg_46 <bmorg_46@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:21:23 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_Online] Re: 5Dimes FPDW
--- In vpFREE_Online@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <fred123@...> wrote:
Was: [vpFREE_Online] Re: Refer a Friend bonuses
I've played nearly 4K hands. No deuces or RF either.
The game might be programmed to never hit deuces or RF's (on an
even numbered day of the month) :).
Fred
What is it that would tell us if it's legit? I haven't hit 4
deuces or a RF yet, but neither have I played 45k (and probably not
5k) hands ....
Brian J. Haagbrian_haag@...
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I hit deuces after about 450 hands yesterday. My first adventure
with 5 dimes was a couple of months ago, and I lost $250 playing
quarters and never hit anything above quads. Go figure. May the
cards be with you. Bill
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