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You...play "draw till u win"/Pioneer promo-Acres style

#1

In a message dated 6/11/06 7:52:14 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
mickeycrimm@yahoo.com writes:

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I was working the Pioneer/Laughlin installation of the Acres
Gaming "double time" system, along with every other hustler in the
state (It was at the time of the biker shootout) when a friend, a
well bankrolled and knowledgeable VP pro who knew I made the rounds
asked me to be on the lookout for a game called "draw till u win" on
Bally Gamemakers.

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What was that now four years ago that they had a gunfight at the Harrahs
Margarittaville bar with three dead bikers?

The Pioneer Hotel and Gambling Hall sure had a unique promotion when they
debuted the upgraded slot card system. The Pioneer for years had a bank of
dollar slots that did a "Double Time" promo where several times an hour they
announced a double hand-payoff for a hit for a short time period.

But when they put in the Acres system they had the ability to fire up every
game connected to the new system. The Sigmas, Gamemakers and the old IGT
Fortune I coin-droppers couldn't be integrated. Pioneer also had the ability to
segment the population of games into about 12 groupings.

The Double-Time music would come-on the PA and the machine's back glass
lighting would flash on and off for the players who were eligible. To be eligible
you had to keep the bezel around the slot card solid green. In order to to
that you had to play at a steady pace of about 400 hands or more an hour.

The double-time payoffs were limited to a certain range of payoffs for each
machine. Usually this was for 2-3 lines in the paytable. Hit and the machine
payed you twice automatically. This certainly could add 2% or so without even
trying too hard.

The double-time feature kicked-in based on coin-in or theo from the games
being played. The more action, the more double-times, but it was supposed to go
off every hour no matter what.

So Mickey what was the optimum way to play this unique promo? I just stuck
to playing the one .25 FPDW when available or any of the IGT quarter 9/6 Jacks.

Bluestreak

P.S. Quiz time- Who had the first slot card system in Nevada?

Yep, it was the Pioneer. Slot card systems were first introduced in AC, but
this joint led the Nevada charge into player tracking with the punched hole
slot card. I first became a "Cowpoke" in 1995.

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#2

In a message dated 6/11/06 7:52:14 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
mickeycrimm@... writes:

> I was working the Pioneer/Laughlin installation of the Acres
> Gaming "double time" system, along with every other hustler in

the

> state (It was at the time of the biker shootout) when a friend, a
> well bankrolled and knowledgeable VP pro who knew I made the

rounds

> asked me to be on the lookout for a game called "draw till u win"

on

> Bally Gamemakers.

****
What was that now four years ago that they had a gunfight at the

Harrahs

Margarittaville bar with three dead bikers?

The Pioneer Hotel and Gambling Hall sure had a unique promotion

when they

debuted the upgraded slot card system. The Pioneer for years had a

bank of

dollar slots that did a "Double Time" promo where several times an

hour they

announced a double hand-payoff for a hit for a short time period.

But when they put in the Acres system they had the ability to fire

up every

game connected to the new system. The Sigmas, Gamemakers and the

old IGT

Fortune I coin-droppers couldn't be integrated. Pioneer also had

the ability to

segment the population of games into about 12 groupings.

The Double-Time music would come-on the PA and the machine's back

glass

lighting would flash on and off for the players who were eligible.

To be eligible

you had to keep the bezel around the slot card solid green. In

order to to

that you had to play at a steady pace of about 400 hands or more an

hour.

The double-time payoffs were limited to a certain range of payoffs

for each

machine. Usually this was for 2-3 lines in the paytable. Hit and

the machine

payed you twice automatically. This certainly could add 2% or so

without even

trying too hard.

The double-time feature kicked-in based on coin-in or theo from the

games

being played. The more action, the more double-times, but it was

supposed to go

off every hour no matter what.

So Mickey what was the optimum way to play this unique promo? I

just stuck

to playing the one .25 FPDW when available or any of the IGT

quarter 9/6 Jacks.

Bluestreak

P.S. Quiz time- Who had the first slot card system in Nevada?

Yep, it was the Pioneer. Slot card systems were first introduced

in AC, but

this joint led the Nevada charge into player tracking with the

punched hole

slot card. I first became a "Cowpoke" in 1995.

I picked up a Gaming Today at the Vegas Club and read where Acres
Gaming was installing the "double time" system at Pioneer/Laughlin.
I was familiar with Acres Gaming systems because of what happened at
Mandalay Bay for the first two months they were open. So I had to
head to Laughlin. Everybody else had the same idea as me because
when I got there it was like a hustlers reunion. Lots of my old
hustling friends were there too waiting for them to start putting the
system in.

When the system was first being installed it was a HUGE, HUGE win.
We started out playing dollar 9/6 Jacks in the bartops, betting one
coin per 12 seconds to keep the machine qualified, and getting about
nine one-minute "double times" per hour where all straights, flushes
and full houses payed double. Of course, we went to max coin while
in double time.

The whole story of what happened there is to long for me to tell
right now, but will tell at a later date. Good Luck.

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