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Keep reading, T-man. It just keeps getting better and better. Or
worse and worse, depending on your perspective.

Among these second-guessers is Rep. Robin Hayes, a North Carolina
Republican. Hayes told NEWSWEEK that "the secretary of Defense
exhibited a remarkable lack of sensitivity" in his remarks. Hayes
said he has been frustrated by delays in getting several heavier
armored gun carriers to the light-gunned 82nd Airborne, which first
requested them a year ago. Four such tank-treaded vehicles are still
sitting in mothballs in Pennsylvania. Army Gen. Richard Cody
approved the transfer last March. But then the Army decided to wait
for a newer system mounted on a wheeled Stryker, though the system
has been held up due to reliability issues, according to a recent
General Accounting Office report. On Dec. 9, a day after Rumsfeld's
Kuwait appearance, Hayes wrote him a letter saying, "I simply cannot
understand why we are not equipping our soldiers and Marines on the
front lines with every weapon in our arsenal."

Other defense insiders say that better armor has not been a high
enough priority, at least until recently. After 9/11, Boeing ramped
up production of JDAMs, its precise, GPS-guided bombs, from 900 a
year to 3, 000 a month for use in Afghanistan. (This past week, in
the middle of the armor furor, Boeing announced that it had
delivered its 100,000th JDAM kit to the Air Force.) "If they could
do it for bombs, why couldn't they do it for armor to save lives?"
asks Defense analyst Bill Arkin. Rumsfeld "could have awakened any
morning in the last year and a half, determined to make sure every
vehicle is properly armored and said, 'I want industry to jump
through hoops to do it'," says one defense contractor. "I was
infuriated he could be so cavalier." No doubt the Pentagon chief is
getting on top of the problem now.

Hmmmmm No answer on this post either.

Now isn't this Congressman special. Perhaps he should take time from
his grandstanding and read the legislation that he passes.

The law seems to state that only 450 Hummers are to be appropriated a
month. Let me give you the bill John Boy. I doubt you'll find this on
your liberal web sites.

S.2401
Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2005
SEC. 112. UP-ARMORED HIGH MOBILITY MULTI-PURPOSE WHEELED VEHICLES OR
WHEELED VEHICLE BALLISTIC ADD-ON ARMOR PROTECTION.
(a) AMOUNT- Of the amount authorized to be appropriated for the Army
for fiscal year 2005 for other procurement under section 101(5),
$610,000,000 shall be available for both of the purposes described in
subsection (b) and may be used for either or both of such purposes.
(b) PURPOSES- The purposes referred to in subsection (a) are as
follows:
(1) The procurement of up-armored high mobility multi-purpose wheeled
vehicles at a rate up to 450 such vehicles each month.
(2) The procurement of wheeled vehicle ballistic add-on armor
protection.
(c) ALLOCATION BY SECRETARY OF THE ARMY- (1) The Secretary of the
Army shall allocate the amount available under subsection (a) between
the two purposes set forth in subsection (b) as the Secretary
determines appropriate to meet the requirements of the Army.
(2) Not later than 15 days before making an allocation under
paragraph (1), the Secretary shall transmit a notification of the
proposed allocation to the congressional defense committees.
(d) PROHIBITION ON USE FOR OTHER PURPOSES- The amount available under
subsection (a) may not be used for any purpose other than a purpose
specified in subsection (b).

Keep reading, T-man. It just keeps getting better and better. Or
worse and worse, depending on your perspective.

Among these second-guessers is Rep. Robin Hayes, a North Carolina
Republican. Hayes told NEWSWEEK that "the secretary of Defense
exhibited a remarkable lack of sensitivity" in his remarks. Hayes
said he has been frustrated by delays in getting several heavier
armored gun carriers to the light-gunned 82nd Airborne, which first
requested them a year ago. Four such tank-treaded vehicles are

still

sitting in mothballs in Pennsylvania. Army Gen. Richard Cody
approved the transfer last March. But then the Army decided to wait
for a newer system mounted on a wheeled Stryker, though the system
has been held up due to reliability issues, according to a recent
General Accounting Office report. On Dec. 9, a day after Rumsfeld's
Kuwait appearance, Hayes wrote him a letter saying, "I simply

cannot

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

understand why we are not equipping our soldiers and Marines on the
front lines with every weapon in our arsenal."

Other defense insiders say that better armor has not been a high
enough priority, at least until recently. After 9/11, Boeing ramped
up production of JDAMs, its precise, GPS-guided bombs, from 900 a
year to 3, 000 a month for use in Afghanistan. (This past week, in
the middle of the armor furor, Boeing announced that it had
delivered its 100,000th JDAM kit to the Air Force.) "If they could
do it for bombs, why couldn't they do it for armor to save lives?"
asks Defense analyst Bill Arkin. Rumsfeld "could have awakened any
morning in the last year and a half, determined to make sure every
vehicle is properly armored and said, 'I want industry to jump
through hoops to do it'," says one defense contractor. "I was
infuriated he could be so cavalier." No doubt the Pentagon chief is
getting on top of the problem now.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

Hmmmmm No answer on this post either.

Now isn't this Congressman special.

He's republican so I'm not surprised or impressed. So why don't the
soldiers have them. Jesus, you guys are in charge. Stop screwing the
pooch and do the job.

Perhaps he should take time from
his grandstanding and read the legislation that he passes.

The law seems to state that only 450 Hummers are to be

appropriated a

month. Let me give you the bill John Boy. I doubt you'll find this

on

your liberal web sites.

S.2401
Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2005
SEC. 112. UP-ARMORED HIGH MOBILITY MULTI-PURPOSE WHEELED VEHICLES

OR

WHEELED VEHICLE BALLISTIC ADD-ON ARMOR PROTECTION.
(a) AMOUNT- Of the amount authorized to be appropriated for the

Army

for fiscal year 2005 for other procurement under section 101(5),
$610,000,000 shall be available for both of the purposes described

in

subsection (b) and may be used for either or both of such purposes.
(b) PURPOSES- The purposes referred to in subsection (a) are as
follows:
(1) The procurement of up-armored high mobility multi-purpose

wheeled

vehicles at a rate up to 450 such vehicles each month.
(2) The procurement of wheeled vehicle ballistic add-on armor
protection.
(c) ALLOCATION BY SECRETARY OF THE ARMY- (1) The Secretary of the
Army shall allocate the amount available under subsection (a)

between

the two purposes set forth in subsection (b) as the Secretary
determines appropriate to meet the requirements of the Army.
(2) Not later than 15 days before making an allocation under
paragraph (1), the Secretary shall transmit a notification of the
proposed allocation to the congressional defense committees.
(d) PROHIBITION ON USE FOR OTHER PURPOSES- The amount available

under

subsection (a) may not be used for any purpose other than a

purpose

specified in subsection (b).

>
> Keep reading, T-man. It just keeps getting better and better. Or
> worse and worse, depending on your perspective.
>
>
> Among these second-guessers is Rep. Robin Hayes, a North

Carolina

> Republican. Hayes told NEWSWEEK that "the secretary of Defense
> exhibited a remarkable lack of sensitivity" in his remarks.

Hayes

> said he has been frustrated by delays in getting several heavier
> armored gun carriers to the light-gunned 82nd Airborne, which

first

> requested them a year ago. Four such tank-treaded vehicles are
still
> sitting in mothballs in Pennsylvania. Army Gen. Richard Cody
> approved the transfer last March. But then the Army decided to

wait

> for a newer system mounted on a wheeled Stryker, though the

system

> has been held up due to reliability issues, according to a

recent

> General Accounting Office report. On Dec. 9, a day after

Rumsfeld's

> Kuwait appearance, Hayes wrote him a letter saying, "I simply
cannot
> understand why we are not equipping our soldiers and Marines on

the

> front lines with every weapon in our arsenal."
>
> Other defense insiders say that better armor has not been a high
> enough priority, at least until recently. After 9/11, Boeing

ramped

> up production of JDAMs, its precise, GPS-guided bombs, from 900

a

> year to 3, 000 a month for use in Afghanistan. (This past week,

in

> the middle of the armor furor, Boeing announced that it had
> delivered its 100,000th JDAM kit to the Air Force.) "If they

could

> do it for bombs, why couldn't they do it for armor to save

lives?"

> asks Defense analyst Bill Arkin. Rumsfeld "could have awakened

any

> morning in the last year and a half, determined to make sure

every

> vehicle is properly armored and said, 'I want industry to jump
> through hoops to do it'," says one defense contractor. "I was
> infuriated he could be so cavalier." No doubt the Pentagon chief

is

···

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

> getting on top of the problem now.