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XVP _The Bear Growl's -Do the Casinos Get it?

This column makes some interesting points. http://www.thebeargrowls.com/?p=131

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pesach kremen wrote:

This column makes some interesting points.
http://www.thebeargrowls.com/?p=131

Perhaps. But, on the other hand, a friend who works for Chase's
credit card division told me that serious layoffs are pending ... I
don't take that to suggest that "sucker" consumers have suddenly found
the light and are no longer willing to carry balances at double digit
interest rates.

Consumer confidence is at a low ... is it surprising that people are
paring back their gaming, particularly in a tourist market? I don't
think stronger paytables are going to bump up the bottom line by
anything appreciable.

On the other hand, it's interesting to see Harrah's flail a bit in AC.
Lots of last minute cash sweeteners in the mail each week. And while
they killed the inventory of the strongest vp game in town, it was a
real surprise to find that Harrah's bumped up some of the DDB from 9/5
to 9/6 this week. Up to now, they've treated those players as if
they're indifferent to the paytable.

- Harry

Sometimes the casinos get it sometimes they don't - 3 areas that could use improvement.

1) Games available. Good games such as 9/6 Jack, 5/8 Bonus, 10/7 DB, NSUD with reasonable slot club returns give a small amount to the advantage player while generate a good return from the majority who appreciate the longer playing time for their money; however giving 6 times points when you have 100% + games invites pros and does nothing for the bottom line.

2) Health of the Public -It has come to the point where my visits on the playing floor must be limited due the smoke. The large casino floors make it easy for the casinos to have completely separated non smoking areas with no drifting smoke but to be workable must have the same games and pay tables.

3) Casinos could make access easier. Space wasted parking cars could be better utilized for casino profit if discrimination against transit users would cease. Those who do not occupy a parking space should be given an equivalent benefit. This would make the casino greener, non auto users happier, and encourage patronage.

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--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Harry Porter <harry.porter@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Harry Porter <harry.porter@verizon.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP _The Bear Growl's -Do the Casinos Get it?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 8:58 PM

            pesach kremen wrote:

This column makes some interesting points.

http://www.thebearg rowls.com/ ?p=131

Perhaps. But, on the other hand, a friend who works for Chase's

credit card division told me that serious layoffs are pending ... I

don't take that to suggest that "sucker" consumers have suddenly found

the light and are no longer willing to carry balances at double digit

interest rates.

Consumer confidence is at a low ... is it surprising that people are

paring back their gaming, particularly in a tourist market? I don't

think stronger paytables are going to bump up the bottom line by

anything appreciable.

On the other hand, it's interesting to see Harrah's flail a bit in AC.

Lots of last minute cash sweeteners in the mail each week. And while

they killed the inventory of the strongest vp game in town, it was a

real surprise to find that Harrah's bumped up some of the DDB from 9/5

to 9/6 this week. Up to now, they've treated those players as if

they're indifferent to the paytable.

- Harry

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@...>
wrote:

Sometimes the casinos get it sometimes they don't

Hey, what's that expression about karma going around and coming
around?

For years the casinos have been whittling away at our benefits. Cash
back reduced or eliminated, points accumulating at slower rates, VIP
Lounge amenities severely curtailed or removed, and so forth.

Simultaneously, VP paytables have been slashed to unplayable levels
for all except those in high limit areas. Heck, even high limit is
not always such a great deal anymore.

So what exactly do the casinos now expect? That players would flock
to Vegas regardless of surging fuel prices and less personal
disposable income?

It all goes back to basics. And the basic human needs have always
been food, air, water and shelter. In any other respect you only lure
people to you if you have a monopoly (which Vegas doesn't any more)
or with excellence.

So I suggest an immediate rethinking on how best to bring customers
back. The writing is clearly on the wall for all to see. And for
those of you who can't imagine Vegas drying up and becoming the
biggest ghost town disaster in American history I have Enron shares
available for immediate purchase.

Hey - What's wrong with Enron? I worked for a company that thought they were Enron and they screwed with their stock price by fooling with the books and the share price went up just like Enron's did. I got out with a nice profit before their shares did just like Enron and took the dive.

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--- On Mon, 7/14/08, mikeymic <mikeymic@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mikeymic <mikeymic@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP _The Bear Growl's -Do the Casinos Get it?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 9:50 AM

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, pesach kremen <royalflush2222@ ...>
wrote:

Sometimes the casinos get it sometimes they don't

Hey, what's that expression about karma going around and coming
around?

For years the casinos have been whittling away at our benefits. Cash
back reduced or eliminated, points accumulating at slower rates, VIP
Lounge amenities severely curtailed or removed, and so forth.

Simultaneously, VP paytables have been slashed to unplayable levels
for all except those in high limit areas. Heck, even high limit is
not always such a great deal anymore.

So what exactly do the casinos now expect? That players would flock
to Vegas regardless of surging fuel prices and less personal
disposable income?

It all goes back to basics. And the basic human needs have always
been food, air, water and shelter. In any other respect you only lure
people to you if you have a monopoly (which Vegas doesn't any more)
or with excellence.

So I suggest an immediate rethinking on how best to bring customers
back. The writing is clearly on the wall for all to see. And for
those of you who can't imagine Vegas drying up and becoming the
biggest ghost town disaster in American history I have Enron shares
available for immediate purchase.

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