Does anyone know if I book a multiple-night room offer at one of the
Harrahs LV properties but only play one day there, will that
negatively affect future offers?
On a similar topic, if I'm staying/playing at one LV casino and use my
reward credits at a restaurant at a different LV casino, is
another "trip" triggered?
Thanks in advance.
On a similar topic, if I'm staying/playing at one LV casino and use
my
reward credits at a restaurant at a different LV casino, is
another "trip" triggered?
Yes.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mtm12796" <mtm12796@...> wrote:
This is definitely not a mistake. There are acres and acres of $2 and $5
single line NSUD all over the casino floor.
Cogno
I probably wasn't totally clear in what I'm asking. If I book a room
at Harrah's and play $x the first day, does it matter to Harrah's
marketing if I stay an extra day or three and don't play at all, or
would it be considered a one-day trip regardless?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mtm12796" <mtm12796@...> wrote:
Does anyone know if I book a multiple-night room offer at one of the
Harrahs LV properties but only play one day there, will that
negatively affect future offers?
>
> Does anyone know if I book a multiple-night room offer at one of
the
> Harrahs LV properties but only play one day there, will that
> negatively affect future offers?
>I probably wasn't totally clear in what I'm asking. If I book a room
at Harrah's and play $x the first day, does it matter to Harrah's
marketing if I stay an extra day or three and don't play at all, or
would it be considered a one-day trip regardless?
I think the general consensus is play well or don't play at all. So,
try to play heavily on that first day and don't worry about the rest of
your stay. Some would advise you not to swipe your card at the Harrahs
outlet where you are staying but not playing the other two days but I
have no opinion about that.
On a January stay at Harrahs I played four times as much at Flamingo.
But that move didn't affect my subsequent Harrahs offers at all, and of
course the Flamingo is now contacting me more often. I always try to
cover my Harrahs stay with decent play the first day and use the rest
of my time playing where I would like to have options for the future.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mtm12796" <mtm12796@> wrote:
This is definitely not a mistake. There are acres and acres of $2 and
$5
single line NSUD all over the casino floor.
Cogno
When I played 9/6 Jacks at the Wynn a few weeks ago a host told me they
are quite aware of the Venetian/Palazzo grumbling.
By the way, I wasn't lucky at all on that Wynn visit. Was playing 25
hands on the 50 play, dealt 4 to the royal, and blanked all 25 hands.
Switched to deuces (they only offer 25-15-9-4-4 on that machine), was
dealt three 2's and could not draw the 4th with 25 chances.
Nevertheless, I believe in rewarding businesses that are trying hard to
please us. So, with the addition of NSUD, I am happy to give the Wynn
more play in the future. Playing elsewhere is the only way to send a
message to other casinos to "loosen up".
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if I book a multiple-night room offer at one
of
the
> > Harrahs LV properties but only play one day there, will that
> > negatively affect future offers?
> >
>
>
> I probably wasn't totally clear in what I'm asking. If I book a
room
> at Harrah's and play $x the first day, does it matter to
Harrah's
> marketing if I stay an extra day or three and don't play at all,
or
> would it be considered a one-day trip regardless?
I think the general consensus is play well or don't play at all.
So,
try to play heavily on that first day and don't worry about the
rest of
your stay. Some would advise you not to swipe your card at the
Harrahs
outlet where you are staying but not playing the other two days
but I
have no opinion about that.
Yeah that's exactly what I had in mind - concentrating all of my
play into one day. Do you think it matters if it's the first day or
would any day be pretty much the same?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mtm12796" <mtm12796@> wrote:
Does the Wynn have a comparable player's level similar to Harrah's
Diamond or Venetian Gold? If so, what play is required and do they
have a comparable lounge as Venetian or Harrah's properties? Thanks in
advance.
This is definitely not a mistake. There are acres and acres of $2 and
$5
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@...> wrote:
single line NSUD all over the casino floor.
Cogno
Does the Wynn have a comparable player's level similar to Harrah's
Diamond or Venetian Gold? If so, what play is required and
Not that I am aware of. Apparently, only 1 level (Red Card).
do they
have a comparable lounge as Venetian or Harrah's properties?
Again, not that I am aware of.
Thanks in
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@...>
wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sarahmukasa10" <sarahmukasa10@>
wrote:
>
> Does the Wynn have a comparable player's level similar to
Harrah's
> Diamond or Venetian Gold? If so, what play is required and
Not that I am aware of. Apparently, only 1 level (Red Card).
> do they
> have a comparable lounge as Venetian or Harrah's properties?Again, not that I am aware of.
I joined at Wynn a few weeks ago and also asked if the Red Card
is "upgraded" if a Harrahs Diamond/7* or Venetian-Palazzo
Gold/Platinum card is presented but was told no.
More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
there since.
You are correct. There is only one level and one card, Red. In Jan.
2008 you needed to make 50 points ($9 coin-in= 1 point) for one
buffet. 500 points would have gotten you four lifetime buffets and
one covenant line pass. The current promo is 150 points for one
buffet. No more line pass. There's plenty of 9/6 JOB and NSUD but
Wynn is looking for 32K daily average action just to start for a comp
room. You'll need 25K daily at Venetian-Palazzo. I don't even know
how much you'll need these days at Harrah's. For everything there is
a price. Choose your poison. Queen Jean would never agree, but I
rather pay for a room these days and not have to be bounded by all the
casinos "corporate" rules. The other choice is to stay off Strip.
Good Luck.
Steve (lol)
I joined at Wynn a few weeks ago and also asked if the Red Card
is "upgraded" if a Harrahs Diamond/7* or Venetian-Palazzo
Gold/Platinum card is presented but was told no.More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
there since.
That is pretty sobering. Thank you for the information and heads up.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@>
wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sarahmukasa10" <sarahmukasa10@>
wrote:
> >
> > Does the Wynn have a comparable player's level similar to
Harrah's
> > Diamond or Venetian Gold? If so, what play is required and
>
> Not that I am aware of. Apparently, only 1 level (Red Card).
>
> > do they
> > have a comparable lounge as Venetian or Harrah's properties?
>
> Again, not that I am aware of.I joined at Wynn a few weeks ago and also asked if the Red Card
is "upgraded" if a Harrahs Diamond/7* or Venetian-Palazzo
Gold/Platinum card is presented but was told no.More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the
charges
were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous
vpFREE
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:
posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
there since.
That's very illegal and should be reported to the state bureau of
consumer protection and the BBB. I'll spare you the legal analysis,
but it's essentially a breach of contract issue.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:
More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
there since.
The question is was the room "free" or comped? Also, what was written
in the fine print for the qualification.
Steve
That's very illegal and should be reported to the state bureau of
consumer protection and the BBB. I'll spare you the legal analysis,
but it's essentially a breach of contract issue.
Actually, you should read very carefully all of the terms and conditions of your offer.
Oftentimes, it will be you who will be in breach of contract.
..... bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc" <paladingamingllc@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@> wrote:
> More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
> based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
> food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
> trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
> told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
> charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
> were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
> potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
> posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
> there since.That's very illegal and should be reported to the state bureau of
consumer protection and the BBB. I'll spare you the legal analysis,
but it's essentially a breach of contract issue.
I would bet that a disclaimer is included with the original paperwork
for the players card. As is usual Nevada casino rules help insure the
casino wins. I guess there have been some changes recently.
15 - 20 years ago I quit Ballys AC because they insisted on playing
the "lets see how your play is" game, before allowing the 2nd or 3rd
nite comp. The shoddy treatment caused me to move to other place and
don't go back to Bally very often. What did Bally gain by agrivating
me and 100s of other players ?
I realize gaming managers have a tough job. Do they tighten play
tables to eliminate experienced player and send the average player to
the showers sooner? Do they put up with the experienced player and
give the not so good player a decent gambling experience? I guess this
is the vp question of the times.
Cheers
.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:
More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
there since.
Supposedly, Gaming Control is more aggressively going after marketing
violations. There are many forms of marketing that are illegal, bait
and switch would be one of the prohibited classes, even if there is a
disclaimer that claims to allow bait and switch, it is still illegal.
Of course, you have to take the initiative. Casinos like to bully
their customers, but, like any bully, will back down when a higher
authority enters the scene. Too many customers are passive and just
leave never coming back, this encourages casinos to continue breaking
laws and acting unethically.
Read Nersesian's "Beat the Players" for details.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/2006-09-07-casino-security_x.htm
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "whitejeeps" <whitejeeps@...> wrote:
I would bet that a disclaimer is included with the original paperwork
for the players card. As is usual Nevada casino rules help insure the
casino wins. I guess there have been some changes recently.15 - 20 years ago I quit Ballys AC because they insisted on playing
the "lets see how your play is" game, before allowing the 2nd or 3rd
nite comp. The shoddy treatment caused me to move to other place and
don't go back to Bally very often. What did Bally gain by agrivating
me and 100s of other players ?I realize gaming managers have a tough job. Do they tighten play
tables to eliminate experienced player and send the average player to
the showers sooner? Do they put up with the experienced player and
give the not so good player a decent gambling experience? I guess this
is the vp question of the times.Cheers
.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@> wrote:
>
> More alarming was the news from a host that offers can be revoked
> based on CURRENT play. So, if I receive two free nights and $200 in
> food/bev in a mail offer and don't play up to Wynn criteria on THAT
> trip they can charge my credit card. To emphasize the point a host
> told me about a recent guest being downgraded from their offer and
> charged. The guest complained extesively at checkout but the charges
> were not reversed. Needless to say my comfort level about any
> potential stay at Wynn immediately dropped. I recall previous vpFREE
> posts about NYNY doing the same and haven't even considered staying
> there since.
>