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XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

#1

On my last 2 trips, I have noticed a huge increase in the number of police writing traffic tickets. You never used to see someone pulled over on the strip for a ticket and now it is a common occurrence.

A friend of mine got a ticket for running a red light. He was southbound on LV Blvd. and was heading east on Flamingo. The officer told him he has to prepay his fine, $300, and they will send him a court date if he wants to fight it. The other option is they take your lisence. He paid the $300 but surprise, surprise there has been no notice of a court date.

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#2

Never heard of pre-paying fines anywhere, but who knows? But red light runners are very dangerous drivers, and whatever's done to make their lives a temporary mess that they might learn by is fine with me.

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From: "greeklandjohnny@aol.com" <greeklandjohnny@aol.com>
To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:27:02 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

On my last 2 trips, I have noticed a huge increase in the number of police writing traffic tickets. You never used to see someone pulled over on the strip for a ticket and now it is a common occurrence.

A friend of mine got a ticket for running a red light. He was southbound on LV Blvd. and was heading east on Flamingo. The officer told him he has to prepay his fine, $300, and they will send him a court date if he wants to fight it. The other option is they take your lisence. He paid the $300 but surprise, surprise there has been no notice of a court date.

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#3

In the interest of brevity, I didn't provide details on the traffic ticket. Making a left turn onto eastbound Flamingo from southbound LV Boulevard is always interesting. If you are in the far turn lane, from the time you start your turn until you actually get to Flamingo is quite a while. My friend is pretty cautious driver and was on the far outside. The officer said he ran the light and my friend insisted he was just going with the traffic flow. Stopping was more dangerous than proceeding.

I just wanted to warn people to be a little more careful when driving.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@...> wrote:

Never heard of pre-paying fines anywhere, but who knows? But red light runners are very dangerous drivers, and whatever's done to make their lives a temporary mess that they might learn by is fine with me.

#4

Did he pay cash directly to the officer? Or did he write a check to the court? If cash, he was quite literally robbed.

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From: "greeklandjohnny@..." <greeklandjohnny@...>
To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:27:02 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

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On my last 2 trips, I have noticed a huge increase in the number of police writing traffic tickets. You never used to see someone pulled over on the strip for a ticket and now it is a common occurrence.

A friend of mine got a ticket for running a red light. He was southbound on LV Blvd. and was heading east on Flamingo. The officer told him he has to prepay his fine, $300, and they will send him a court date if he wants to fight it. The other option is they take your lisence. He paid the $300 but surprise, surprise there has been no notice of a court date.

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#5

I'll have to find out. My guess is he didn't have a checkbook with him. Maybe it was a credit card transaction. I will find out.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ezfromnwon" <ezfromnwon@...> wrote:

Did he pay cash directly to the officer? Or did he write a check to the court? If cash, he was quite literally robbed.

#6

Yes, drivers are always right and the cops are always wrong when it's us, a friend or a family member that gets a ticket, and while a driver is perfectly able, a policeman cannot determine if it's more dangerous to stop or run the lights.

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From: johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@aol.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 1:11:47 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@ ...> wrote:

Never heard of pre-paying fines anywhere, but who knows? But red light runners are very dangerous drivers, and whatever's done to make their lives a temporary mess that they might learn by is fine with me.

In the interest of brevity, I didn't provide details on the traffic ticket. Making a left turn onto eastbound Flamingo from southbound LV Boulevard is always interesting. If you are in the far turn lane, from the time you start your turn until you actually get to Flamingo is quite a while. My friend is pretty cautious driver and was on the far outside. The officer said he ran the light and my friend insisted he was just going with the traffic flow. Stopping was more dangerous than proceeding.

I just wanted to warn people to be a little more careful when driving.

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#7

Was there a red light camera and is he going to get a ticket for that also? i've never heard of prepaying tickets. what if you don't have the money to pay for it?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, greeklandjohnny@... wrote:

On my last 2 trips, I have noticed a huge increase in the number of police writing traffic tickets. You never used to see someone pulled over on the strip for a ticket and now it is a common occurrence.

A friend of mine got a ticket for running a red light. He was southbound on LV Blvd. and was heading east on Flamingo. The officer told him he has to prepay his fine, $300, and they will send him a court date if he wants to fight it. The other option is they take your lisence. He paid the $300 but surprise, surprise there has been no notice of a court date.

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#8

Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about the situation yet you weren't even around when it happened. A person goes through a yellow/red light at that intersection which happens a hundred times a day and you automatically side with the officer. I don't share your 'policemen are infallible' attitude.

We obviously disagree and most likely always will. I made a post to inform people of the current traffic law enforcement situation in Las Vegas. If you think traffic laws are black and white, you are naive beyond belief. On some roads, 55 mph speed limit means go 70 or less and you are okay. On other roads, 55 means 55.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@...> wrote:

Yes, drivers are always right and the cops are always wrong when it's us, a friend or a family member that gets a ticket, and while a driver is perfectly able, a policeman cannot determine if it's more dangerous to stop or run the lights.Â

#9

It's OK to disagree. The fact that drivers abuse the light and don't get caught doesn't make it right.

Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph or more over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in Nevada. No state allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful. You'll get stopped every time if clocked or measured electronically. Certain drivers may feel it's OK to do, but these are the same drivers as your pal who believes he's above the law when it comes to him getting pinched.

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From: johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@aol.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:39:20 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about the situation yet you weren't even around when it happened. A person goes through a yellow/red light at that intersection which happens a hundred times a day and you automatically side with the officer. I don't share your 'policemen are infallible' attitude.

We obviously disagree and most likely always will. I made a post to inform people of the current traffic law enforcement situation in Las Vegas. If you think traffic laws are black and white, you are naive beyond belief. On some roads, 55 mph speed limit means go 70 or less and you are okay. On other roads, 55 means 55.

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#10

Complete nonsense. In Arizona you are obligated to drive at a speed that is
reasonable and prudent, up to 20 miles per over the speed limit (and not
more than 65 MPH, with exceptions for Interstates). 15 MPH is less than 20
MPH.

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com> wrote:

It's OK to disagree. The fact that drivers abuse the light and don't get
caught doesn't make it right.

Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph or more
over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in Nevada. No state
allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful. You'll get stopped every
time if clocked or measured electronically. Certain drivers may feel it's OK
to do, but these are the same drivers as your pal who believes he's above
the law when it comes to him getting pinched.

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From: johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@aol.com <greeklandjohnny%40aol.com>>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:39:20 PM

Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about the situation yet you weren't even
around when it happened. A person goes through a yellow/red light at that
intersection which happens a hundred times a day and you automatically side
with the officer. I don't share your 'policemen are infallible' attitude.

We obviously disagree and most likely always will. I made a post to inform
people of the current traffic law enforcement situation in Las Vegas. If you
think traffic laws are black and white, you are naive beyond belief. On some
roads, 55 mph speed limit means go 70 or less and you are okay. On other
roads, 55 means 55.

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#11

That was me who took your friends 300$. It was just a costume.

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From: Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:56:31 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

It's OK to disagree. The fact that drivers abuse the light and don't get caught doesn't make it right.

Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph or more over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in Nevada. No state allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful. You'll get stopped every time if clocked or measured electronically. Certain drivers may feel it's OK to do, but these are the same drivers as your pal who believes he's above the law when it comes to him getting pinched.

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From: johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@ aol.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 7:39:20 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas

Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about the situation yet you weren't even around when it happened. A person goes through a yellow/red light at that intersection which happens a hundred times a day and you automatically side with the officer. I don't share your 'policemen are infallible' attitude.

We obviously disagree and most likely always will. I made a post to inform people of the current traffic law enforcement situation in Las Vegas. If you think traffic laws are black and white, you are naive beyond belief. On some roads, 55 mph speed limit means go 70 or less and you are okay. On other roads, 55 means 55.

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#12

johnny,

You're doing the old teaching pigs to sing routine here with these guys. Not only is it impossible, it just pisses off the pig. I enjoyed the post - but I'm no pig....

jigger

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--- On Thu, 12/17/09, johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@aol.com> wrote:

From: johnnyzee48127 <greeklandjohnny@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: XVP -- driving in Las Vegas
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:39 PM

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com,
Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, drivers are always right and the cops are
always wrong when it's us, a friend or a family member that
gets a ticket, and while a driver is perfectly able, a
policeman cannot determine if it's more dangerous to
stop or run the lights.Â
>
>
>
Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about the situation yet
you weren't even around when it happened. A person goes
through a yellow/red light at that intersection which
happens a hundred times a day and you automatically side
with the officer. I don't share your 'policemen are
infallible' attitude.

We obviously disagree and most likely always will. I made a
post to inform people of the current traffic law enforcement
situation in Las Vegas. If you think traffic laws are black
and white, you are naive beyond belief. On some roads, 55
mph speed limit means go 70 or less and you are okay. On
other roads, 55 means 55.

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#13

I guess we should be happy that you didn't post any of your made-up hogwash over the Nevada law.
BS like you dish out is why I'm always overjoyed each and every time I see a disgusted idiot driver pulled over getting written up for speeding. Even in a pretend world you can't fight the reality of law.

Complete nonsense. In Arizona you are obligated to drive at a speed that is
reasonable and prudent, up to 20 miles per over the speed limit (and not
more than 65 MPH, with exceptions for Interstates). 15 MPH is less than 20
MPH.

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com> wrote:

Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph or more
over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in Nevada. No state
allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful. You'll get stopped every
time if clocked or measured electronically. Certain drivers may feel it's OK
to do, but these are the same drivers as your pal who believes he's above
the law when it comes to him getting pinched.

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From: Jason Pawloski jpawloski@gmail.com

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#14

Here it is. With a few exceptions (school zones, construction zones, etc.)
the truth is in black and white for ya, buddy.

ARS 28-701

A. A person shall not drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than
is reasonable and prudent under the circumstances, conditions and actual and
potential hazards then existing. A person shall control the speed of a
vehicle as necessary to avoid colliding with any object, person, vehicle or
other conveyance on, entering or adjacent to the highway in compliance with
legal requirements and the duty of all persons to exercise reasonable care
for the protection of others.

ARS 28-702 (Excessive Speed Statute)

A. A person shall not:

1. Exceed thirty-five miles per hour approaching a school crossing.

2. Exceed the posted speed limit in a business or residential district by
more than twenty miles per hour, or if no speed limit is posted, exceed
forty-five miles per hour.

3. Exceed eighty-five miles per hour in other locations.

B. A person who violates subsection A of this section is guilty of a class 3
misdemeanor.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/00701.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS

Thanks for providing a bit of comedy though.

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com> wrote:

I guess we should be happy that you didn't post any of your made-up hogwash
over the Nevada law.
BS like you dish out is why I'm always overjoyed each and every time I see
a disgusted idiot driver pulled over getting written up for speeding. Even
in a pretend world you can't fight the reality of law.

Complete nonsense. In Arizona you are obligated to drive at a speed that is
reasonable and prudent, up to 20 miles per over the speed limit (and not
more than 65 MPH, with exceptions for Interstates). 15 MPH is less than 20
MPH.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com<jerrylogan93%40yahoo.com>> > wrote:
> Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph or
more
> over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in Nevada. No
state
> allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful. You'll get stopped
every
> time if clocked or measured electronically. Certain drivers may feel it's
OK
> to do, but these are the same drivers as your pal who believes he's above
> the law when it comes to him getting pinched.

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From: Jason Pawloski jpawloski@gmail.com <jpawloski%40gmail.com>

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#15

Jerry's statement ("No state allows 15MPH over the posted
speed limit as lawful") seems to accurate to me.

While someone who is exceeding the posted speed limit
by more than 20 miles per hour may be guilty of a class 3
misdemeanor, exceeding the posted speed limit by less than
20 miles per hour is still unlawful. It's just an infraction, not a
misdemeanor.

Curtis

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On 12/18/09, Jason Pawloski <jpawloski@gmail.com> wrote:

Here it is. With a few exceptions (school zones, construction zones, etc.)
the truth is in black and white for ya, buddy.

ARS 28-701

A. A person shall not drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than
is reasonable and prudent under the circumstances, conditions and actual
and
potential hazards then existing. A person shall control the speed of a
vehicle as necessary to avoid colliding with any object, person, vehicle or
other conveyance on, entering or adjacent to the highway in compliance with
legal requirements and the duty of all persons to exercise reasonable care
for the protection of others.

ARS 28-702 (Excessive Speed Statute)

A. A person shall not:

1. Exceed thirty-five miles per hour approaching a school crossing.

2. Exceed the posted speed limit in a business or residential district by
more than twenty miles per hour, or if no speed limit is posted, exceed
forty-five miles per hour.

3. Exceed eighty-five miles per hour in other locations.

B. A person who violates subsection A of this section is guilty of a class
3
misdemeanor.

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/00701.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com> > wrote:
I guess we should be happy that you didn't post any of your made-up
hogwash over the Nevada law. BS like you dish out is why I'm always
overjoyed each and every time I seea disgusted idiot driver pulled over
getting written up for speeding. Even in a pretend world you can't fight
the reality of law.

On 12/17/09, Jason Pawloski <jpawloski@gmail.com> wrote:

Complete nonsense. In Arizona you are obligated to drive at a speed
that is reasonable and prudent, up to 20 miles per over the speed limit
(and not more than 65 MPH, with exceptions for Interstates). 15 MPH
is less than 20 MPH.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Jerry Logan <jerrylogan93@yahoo.com > <jerrylogan93%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
Here's a tip for your "I'm mad cause I got caught" friend: Go 20mph
or more over the posted speed limit and it's a criminal offense in
Nevada. No state allows 15MPH over the posted speed limit as lawful.
You'll get stopped every time if clocked or measured electronically.
Certain drivers may feel it's OK to do, but these are the same drivers
as your pal who believes he's above the law when it comes to him
getting pinched.

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