You couldn't be more wrong about capitalism not being a good system! According to a 2006 report by the International Monetary Fund and a separate report by the World Bank:
US gross domestic product was greater than countries (Japan, Germany, China, and the UK) ranked 2-5 combined.
US GDP was greater than all countries ranked 13-180 combined.
US produced 27% of all world GDP while having only 4.4% of the population.
Socialism failed miserably in Russia, China, and Eastern Europe. China and Russia only improved after drastically altering their socialist policies. The poorest people in this country live far better here than in most of the world.
Socialized medicine is a very good thing. Everyone can be treated regardless of income or
wealth. One visit to the ER here in vegas last year with my "good insurance" resulted in out of pocket costs of $1500. On top of that I am assessed $75 a month for insurance at work, my employer pays over $500, I have deductibles, co-pays, and denial of and wait for care.
Were HR676 to pass my employer's expense for me would be about $2500, 40 %of what is paid now - my expense about $2500 (based on a 4.75% tax for HR676) which would be less than my monthly premiums, deductibles, co-pays and uncovered items. Who would lose, the profits going to the drug companies and insurance companies.
Do we wait now, yes! Wait for insurance company approvals, Yes. Those without insurance have to wait, oh yes! Wait for time lost for treatment due paperwork processing, yes!
Those who mention Canadians coming south. What about charter busses going north from maine to new Brunswick for Seniors to buy medicine in Canada? I have a friend here who needed procedures done. The cost was so prohibitive here that he had to fly back to France and it was still cheaper even if he would of gone first class!
Capitalism is not a good system. It has it's good parts (incentives) but it's very bad parts (greed) and it is extremely unfair to the have nots, as believe it or not, entry is not available to all whether it be employment, starting a business, etc. Socialism has it's polus and minuses tooo but it is a fair system and seems to work well in many countries.
Look at the air travel mess we have! Would socialism help if airlines were nationalized, maybe? The private railroads didn't consider passengers profitable enough, thus Amtrak was created which with it's extremely limited government help (much less that the highways or airlines) covers 80% of it's cost from fares. By the way, the airlines don't do any better, the stockholders just pick up the differences here. The postal service is run by the government, would anyone do it for profit, and this means getting mail to small towns that could never be profitable. grant it, the P O does some silly things such as not picking up or delivering mail on the first day of the week, a definite loss of efficiency. We have libraries and other government servies that all well run, health care could be the same.
AMEN !!!!
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pesach kremen <royalflush2222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gene Bryant <gjbryant@charter.net> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: tralfamidorgooglycrackers
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: xvp - Marxian Medicine?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Richard Boozer <reboozer@...> wrote:
Who has been brainwashed?? I'd say it's you!
--- pesach kremen <royalflush2222@...> wrote:
> Socialized medicine is a good thing, we have just
> been brainwashed to oppose it!
"Socialized" ANYTHING is a terrible thing. Socialism is right up
there with alchemy, medicine by leeches, and human sacrifice as one
of the worst ideas of all time. It ignores completely the idea of
human INCENTIVE. Karl Marx must not have spent much time out in the
real world, and neither must have the legions who followed him
(excepting the ones who professed faith in his philosophies merely as
a pretext to impose state terror).
What you refer to as "brainwashing" is actually the skin-crawling
feeling that horrible ideas give most of us when they are proposed by
our putative leaders.
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