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XRENO: SEVEN FEATHERS, CANYONVILLE OREGON

This is an Indain casino about 20 miles south of Roseburg.

JOB: full pay 9/6 at the dollar level in three banks, all MG, MD Game
King tito uprights: 12 by the slot club; 12 by the entrance to the Cow
Creek resturant; 12 about one row in and to the east of the west
cashiers (sort of near keno).

The bank by the slot club also has Airport/Illinois deuces at the
dollar level; at the quarter level, the deuces return 97.58%.

There's a strange .25 , five-meter BP progressive near keno. However,
even with all the meters kicking in, it was less than 96%. I think
94.18% if all meters totally reset.

Blackjack is out of a six deck shoe, double down after any first two
cards, split after split, but not double; dealer hits soft 17.

May be the closest Oregon casino to having Reno casino ambience;
Chinook Winds in Lincoln city is probably a close second, and with
better blackjack.

Their web site says they give cash back; I forgot to ask before leaving.

I thought that Oregon ran VLTs like Washington? If they run RNGs I
would like to know. Thanks.

--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "winnerhead" <tbonetlb@c...>
wrote:

This is an Indain casino about 20 miles south of Roseburg.

JOB: full pay 9/6 at the dollar level in three banks, all MG, MD

Game

King tito uprights: 12 by the slot club; 12 by the entrance to the

Cow

Creek resturant; 12 about one row in and to the east of the west
cashiers (sort of near keno).

The bank by the slot club also has Airport/Illinois deuces at the
dollar level; at the quarter level, the deuces return 97.58%.

There's a strange .25 , five-meter BP progressive near keno.

However,

even with all the meters kicking in, it was less than 96%. I think
94.18% if all meters totally reset.

Blackjack is out of a six deck shoe, double down after any first

two

cards, split after split, but not double; dealer hits soft 17.

May be the closest Oregon casino to having Reno casino ambience;
Chinook Winds in Lincoln city is probably a close second, and with
better blackjack.

Their web site says they give cash back; I forgot to ask before

leaving.

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--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan" <diversified_slave@y...>
wrote:

I thought that Oregon ran VLTs like Washington? If they run RNGs I
would like to know. Thanks.

The state sponsors VLTs which you'll find in bars and pizza parlors.
The Indian casinos seem to have the real deal, although the VP pay
schedules are usually terrible. The Seven Feathers pays are the best I
have seen at the three casinos I've been to, but it's also the first
time I ever checked at the dollar level.

I don't know why we're on the VpFree_Reno forum about Oregon, but...

the state-run "OREGON LOTTERY" terminals that seem to be in every
restaurant, tavern, bowling alley, etc. ARE RNG machines. There is no
match card or a wizard like VLT's have. Yes, the paytables are
atrocious, probably in the 89-92% range, I have not analyzed them
(anxiously awaiting my Optimal Poker software from Dan Paymar for my
MACintosh so I can calc the OR state paytables EVs) but they are NOT
VLT's like in Washington tribal casinos.

And Oregon tribal casino VP machines are definitely RNGs, without
discussion of gaffing, etc. Yes they are poor paytables for the most
part, but there are some "playable" machines in the 99.0-99.5% range
as "winnerhead" posted.

~MARK

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--- "winnerhead" wrote:

> --- "Jonathan" wrote:
>
> I thought that Oregon ran VLTs like Washington? If they run RNGs I
> would like to know. Thanks.

The state sponsors VLTs which you'll find in bars and pizza parlors.
The Indian casinos seem to have the real deal, although the VP pay
schedules are usually terrible. The Seven Feathers pays are the
best I have seen at the three casinos I've been to, but it's also
the first time I ever checked at the dollar level.