If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing at the .50 level..Rod
would you be suspect?
I'd say that sounds like deja vu! 360 hands without a 4oak is a regular event. Now if it was 360 hands of DW that would be another thing 
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing at the .50 level..Rod
Just a regular day at the office for me .... 4 of a kind is a 1 in 425 hand
occurrence (on average) and at $2.50 per hand ($.50 * 5) you'd run $900
through in 360 hands.
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On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM, <vprod618@yahoo.com> wrote:
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If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW
and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing
at the .50 level..Rod
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:22:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] would you be suspect?Just a regular day at the office for me .... 4 of a kind is a 1 in 425 hand
occurrence (on average) and at $2.50 per hand ($.50 * 5) you'd run $900
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> If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW
> and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing
> at the .50 level..Rod
>
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On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM, <vprod618@yahoo.com> wrote:
The chance of quads at DDB is 0.239%. So the chance of not getting quads on your next hand at DDB is 99.761%.
If you meant that you made $900 worth of bets (360 bets of $2.50), then the chance of no quads is 99.761%^360 = 42%. Not rare at all.
But maybe you meant you LOST $900?
--Dunbar
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM, < vprod618@... > wrote:
> >
> > If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW
> > and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing
> > at the .50 level..Rod
> >
> >
thank you, yes I did LOSE $900.00 during that short session. 1 1/2 hrs! I don't know if I've ever did that bad b/4. I'm a little suspect.
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From: "h_dunbar@hotmail.com" <h_dunbar@hotmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:01 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] RE: would you be suspect?
The chance of quads at DDB is 0.239%. So the chance of not getting quads on your next hand at DDB is 99.761%.
If you meant that you made $900 worth of bets (360 bets of $2.50), then the chance of no quads is 99.761%^360 = 42%. Not rare at all.
But maybe you meant you LOST $900?
--Dunbar
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:37 PM, < vprod618@... > wrote:
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> If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW
> and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing
> at the .50 level..Rod
>
>
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Your experience should be rare, but definitely not far enough out of line to suspect the game is gaffed.
If you play 2000 hands of DDB at $2.50 per hand, about 1% of the time you will lose $1300 or more. If you played really slowly (just 1200 hands in 1.5 hours) you would lose $900 about 1% of the time.
Going 1500 hands without quads happens about 3% of the time.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vprod618@...> wrote:
If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing at the .50 level..Rod
Come on. Since when is 800 hands/hour playing "really slowly"?!
I know there was a recent discussion about speed of play. But I maintain that 800 hands/hr represents a pretty solid pace for most players, even good players.
--Dunbar
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <vpfree@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Your experience should be rare, but definitely not far enough out of line to suspect the game is gaffed.
If you play 2000 hands of DDB at $2.50 per hand, about 1% of the time you will lose $1300 or more. If you played really slowly (just 1200 hands in 1.5 hours) you would lose $900 about 1% of the time.
Going 1500 hands without quads happens about 3% of the time.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , <vprod618@...> wrote:
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>  If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing at the .50 level..Rod
>
Come on. Since when is 800 hands/hr considered playing "really slowly"?! 800 hands/hr is a very solid pace for most players, even proficient players.
I would put the leisurely pace for most players closer to 500 hands/hr.
--Dunbar
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--- In vpfree@yahoogroups.com, <effend@...> wrote:
Your experience should be rare, but definitely not far enough out of line to suspect the game is gaffed.
If you play 2000 hands of DDB at $2.50 per hand, about 1% of the time you will lose $1300 or more. If you played really slowly (just 1200 hands in 1.5 hours) you would lose $900 about 1% of the time.
Going 1500 hands without quads happens about 3% of the time.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com , <vprod618@...> wrote:
>
>  If you put $900.00 through a vp machine playing mostly DDB, with some DW and some BP Deluxe and got no 4OK how unusual would that be? BTW playing at the .50 level..Rod
>
Since 1998, when decent VP machines started being installed. Remember the old Sigma machines that had to count all five coins going in?
I consider 1100 hands per hour a leisurely pace.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <h_dunbar@...> wrote:
Come on. Since when is 800 hands/hr considered playing "really slowly"?!
vprod618,
Over the past few weeks, I've played ~2000 hands of DDB 10/6 .25 and
lost -$496.75 (would be -$993 at 0.50).
Only 2 quads.
Just before this bad streak, I hit two Aces with kickers ($500). One
was my first hand upon sitting down!
I'm net +$700 on this bank of DDB 10/6 (one Royal & five Aces with
kickers), so the bank is playing ok.
Mitchell
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:43 AM, <h_dunbar@hotmail.com> <h_dunbar@hotmail.com> wrote:
If you play 2000 hands of DDB at $2.50 per hand, about 1% of the
time you will lose $1300 or more. If you played really slowly (just
1200 hands in 1.5 hours) you would lose $900 about 1% of the time.
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Michael: congrats it gives me hope
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From: Mitchell Tsai <tsai@cs.ucla.edu>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] RE: would you be suspect?
vprod618,
Over the past few weeks, I've played ~2000 hands of DDB 10/6 .25 and
lost -$496.75 (would be -$993 at 0.50).
Only 2 quads.
Just before this bad streak, I hit two Aces with kickers ($500). One
was my first hand upon sitting down!
I'm net +$700 on this bank of DDB 10/6 (one Royal & five Aces with
kickers), so the bank is playing ok.
Mitchell
On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:43 AM, <h_dunbar@hotmail.com> <h_dunbar@hotmail.com> wrote:
If you play 2000 hands of DDB at $2.50 per hand, about 1% of the
time you will lose $1300 or more. If you played really slowly (just
1200 hands in 1.5 hours) you would lose $900 about 1% of the time.
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