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Wong's VP

#1

I have not been able to get Wong VP to run on XP Pro but I have used
VPEXACT once in a blue moon for separate three of a kind games like High
Fives or Nevada Bonus.

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[Original Message]
From: whitejeeps <whitejeeps@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/4/2005 10:01:41 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Wong's VP

Wow...Your knocking the cobwebs out of the old brain. Probably a lot of
dust in there too. I sort of remember the analyze thing now. I think we
could choose a number of games to run. I'm going to dig up my floppy
that has Wong vp. I also have a Wong bj program somewhere. I imagine
programs would work on xp pro. I have a couple win 98s around too.

Have a good one....Jeep
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:
>
> The "analyze game" on Wong VP dealt a limited number of random hands
(no
> more than 32,768) and averaged the EV of those hands. It excluded
royals
> and added the appropriate value separately. VPEXACT worked similar to
the
> analyze game feature in Winpoker and Frugal VP. It displayed hand
> frequencies and percent of payback for each hand type including
separated
> results for the various four of a kinds. It could also calculate using
> different paybacks for various three of a kinds. It could not handle
> kickers and bonus deuces type games. Also no two or more joker
games.

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#2

Some interesting info on Roger Pederson and Wong VP at...
http://www.gamedev.net/columns/interviews/rpederson.asp

Wong VP is out of print, but you can download it for free at...
http://free-game-
downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/strategy_games/games_so_sy/stanford_w
ong_video_poker.html

#3

Howard Stern wrote:

I have not been able to get Wong VP to run on XP Pro but I have used
VPEXACT once in a blue moon for separate three of a kind games like
High Fives or Nevada Bonus.

FWIW, it's the first time I tried to run it, but Wong VP fired up just
fine on my XP Pro system.

- H.

#4

These posts made me dig into my old discs. I found "Video Poker Analyzer".
This was a dos program by Stanford Wong. Later Stanford Wong offered a
discounted upgrade to Villa Crespo. The title on the Villa Crespo disc is
"Stanford Wong Video Poker". I also found the disc to upgrade Villa Crespo
to ver 1.1. I was able to get the Villa Crespo to run but not VPA. I tried
to fix the disc with Norton Utilities but no luck.

I bought VPA from Pi Yee Press 15 years ago. Here is a quote from their
website today.
"Stanford Wong Video Poker requires color. If your computer cannot handle
color, ask for Video Poker Analyzer."

5-card

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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Harry Porter
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 6:01 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Wong's VP

Howard Stern wrote:

I have not been able to get Wong VP to run on XP Pro but I have used
VPEXACT once in a blue moon for separate three of a kind games like
High Fives or Nevada Bonus.

FWIW, it's the first time I tried to run it, but Wong VP fired up just
fine on my XP Pro system.

- H.

#5

Besides 16/10 NSUD (EV=99.73%, var=25.78), the Orleans high-limit area also has 12/4 Double Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=99.81%, var=40.39) on the same machines.

[Note to Admin: the above is not currently in the database. I suggest the following entry:

     < 12/4 DBDW (99.8%) >

     (8) $2/$5/$10/$20/$25 MG/MD/TITO uprights in high-limit area.

There is an entry for BDW (99.8%) at smaller denoms. Perhaps these machines are really DBDW?]

Two or more Village Pubs (same owner(s) as Ellis Island) have 10/4/4 Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=100.35%, var=42.47). This is one of the better $1+ EV plays in Las Vegas, and is available 24/7. Denoms are .25 thru $5 (10-coin), effectively .50 thru $10. I credit Elliott Shapiro for posting this information to the group a couple of months back. I have verified the existence of these machines at the Flamingo/Pecos and Sunset/GVR locations. They're rather slow dealing the cards, but not terribly. Beware of machines with shorted paytables! Especially 3 for a full house or 9 for a straight flush. The 10-coin royal should be 10,000 coins.

[Note to Admin: perhaps there should be a Village Pub page in the database? The location(s) of each machine could be specified as well.]

However, as the variances suggest, BDW and DBDW are highly volatile games, similar to Double Double Bonus. Play with care! In a few hours (or even less!) you can easily go through 1000 betting units.

I have created strategy cards for these games, complete with the penalty card situations. If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy, please contact me by private email.

John

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#6

I would like more information about these games,
please. My wife and I leave for Las Vegas Tuesday
11/15 for a long stay. We are hosting a dinner at the
Outback Steak House in the Casino Royale Wednesday
evening 11/16 if you could make that. Writer Scot
Krause is scheduled to attend. Email me or call my
cell anytime 214 325-2410

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--- John <john_oc_ca@yahoo.com> wrote:

Besides 16/10 NSUD (EV=99.73%, var=25.78), the
Orleans high-limit area also has 12/4 Double Bonus
Deuces Wild (EV=99.81%, var=40.39) on the same
machines.

     (8) $2/$5/$10/$20/$25 MG/MD/TITO uprights in
high-limit area.

There is an entry for BDW (99.8%) at smaller denoms.
Perhaps these machines are really DBDW?]

Two or more Village Pubs (same owner(s) as Ellis
Island) have 10/4/4 Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=100.35%,
var=42.47). This is one of the better $1+ EV plays
in Las Vegas, and is available 24/7. Denoms are .25
thru $5 (10-coin), effectively .50 thru $10. I
credit Elliott Shapiro for posting this information
to the group a couple of months back. I have
verified the existence of these machines at the
Flamingo/Pecos and Sunset/GVR locations. They're
rather slow dealing the cards, but not terribly.
Beware of machines with shorted paytables!
Especially 3 for a full house or 9 for a straight
flush. The 10-coin royal should be 10,000 coins.

[Note to Admin: perhaps there should be a Village
Pub page in the database? The location(s) of each
machine could be specified as well.]

However, as the variances suggest, BDW and DBDW are
highly volatile games, similar to Double Double
Bonus. Play with care! In a few hours (or even
less!) you can easily go through 1000 betting units.

I have created strategy cards for these games,
complete with the penalty card situations. If anyone
is interested in obtaining a copy, please contact me
by private email.

John

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one click.

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#7

A total of three locations.
Sunset near Renatas, Eastern at Wigwam and Flamingo at Pecos.
Other Pubs do NOT have the correct schedule.

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On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:58:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

Besides 16/10 NSUD (EV=99.73%, var=25.78), the Orleans high-limit area also has 12/4 Double Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=99.81%, var=40.39) on the same machines.

[Note to Admin: the above is not currently in the database. I suggest the following entry:

    < 12/4 DBDW (99.8%) >

    (8) $2/$5/$10/$20/$25 MG/MD/TITO uprights in high-limit area.

There is an entry for BDW (99.8%) at smaller denoms. Perhaps these machines are really DBDW?]

Two or more Village Pubs (same owner(s) as Ellis Island) have 10/4/4 Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=100.35%, var=42.47). This is one of the better $1+ EV plays in Las Vegas, and is available 24/7. Denoms are .25 thru $5 (10-coin), effectively .50 thru $10. I credit Elliott Shapiro for posting this information to the group a couple of months back. I have verified the existence of these machines at the Flamingo/Pecos and Sunset/GVR locations. They're rather slow dealing the cards, but not terribly. Beware of machines with shorted paytables! Especially 3 for a full house or 9 for a straight flush. The 10-coin royal should be 10,000 coins.

[Note to Admin: perhaps there should be a Village Pub page in the database? The location(s) of each machine could be specified as well.]

However, as the variances suggest, BDW and DBDW are highly volatile games, similar to Double Double Bonus. Play with care! In a few hours (or even less!) you can easily go through 1000 betting units.

I have created strategy cards for these games, complete with the penalty card situations. If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy, please contact me by private email.

John

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#8

I don't get much past the poker room and the 10/7 DB at the poker bar,
so let me ask: where is the Orleans high-limit area?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, John <john_oc_ca@y...> wrote:

Besides 16/10 NSUD (EV=99.73%, var=25.78), the Orleans high-limit

area also has 12/4 Double Bonus Deuces Wild (EV=99.81%, var=40.39) on
the same machines.