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BillC444 · January 14, 2020, 5:55pm

Our casino just got a new IGT game “Double Big Wheel Poker”.

It’s a lot like IGT’s “Hot Roll” poker. It’s 3/5/10 play where you

play 10 coins per game instead of 5. Every 5.04 games, on average,

you get a multiplier which averages 6.05. Multipliers can be

2,3,4,6,8,9,12 or 16. It looked gentle enough to me with no strategy

changes needed to play. Unfortunately it’s not a gentle game. I’ve

played Bonus Deuces 13/4/3/3 with about $45,000 coin-in on 10 play

quarters and my losses are now $6000. If it doesn’t turn soon I’ll have

a long wait for the 16X with a drawn royal for $160,000.

whitejeeps · January 14, 2020, 7:29pm

Hi Bill,

Interesting info. Too early to tell, but “random is name of game?” However, I have heard the term

“pseudorandom”. I’m not a techie. When I play a vp game and I hit 4kd many games seem to give long runs of losing hands till half win is gone. Then settles down. I know it’s my imagination. BUT??? I play places where games act differently than others. Imagination? If the random is “Pseudo” I would guess it passes regulations “Legally”? I have no way to know.

I have followed VP since early 80s. I played Sircoma pokers made by Si Redd. He was first manufacturer of first vp 99% games. That’s when VP took off and captured players. Imperial Palace had 4 of them early on in early 80s. Sircoma name changed in early 80s to IGT. As we all know things change.

What’s the big deal? I played a lot? I’m sure the games today are on legal platform. I believe they play different than they used to play. There are some games I like. I play the games I like and avoid the other ones. I will guess we all do that… May luck stay with you.

Just my opinion… Cheers…Jeep

Harry_Porter · January 14, 2020, 7:29pm

a 13% loss on 1800 plays? That sounds like a good number of my standard play IL DW sessions.

I don’t intend to minimize the pain of the loss. However, at $25 a play, you’re betting pretty big for a “quarter” game. Between the double wager for the play option and a hefty set of multipliers at the top end, it wouldn’t be entirely unsurprising if the swings were much more akin to a single line game at the same total wager rather than n-play.

But you’re no stranger to variance or a stiff wager … I expect you’ll find your way through this, despite the initial surprise. At least you also have dealt deuces w/ A kicker to look for a huge dose of relief

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