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Wizard of Odds Strategy for 8-5 ACE$ Bonus Poker vs. regular 8-5...

In a message dated 12/3/08 6:17:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
johnhunady@hotmail.com writes:

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Anyone out there dabble in creating a strategy for 8-5 ACE$ Bonus
Poker? This is an offshoot of 8-5 Bonus Poker, providing an
additional 4,000 coin bonus for 4 special aces arranged in sequence,
either ACE$- or -ACE$. This game returns 99.41% compared to 99.17%
for 8-5 Bonus Poker.

As instructed in Wizard of Odds, I took Jean Scott's Frugal Video
Poker program and produced 5 different strategies using the different
paybacks for 4 Aces, using 80 coins for Aces in wrong position, 94
coins for NO Aces at all (basic 8-5 strategy), 110 coins for 1 Ace in
position, 200 for 2 Aces in position and 440 for 3 Aces in position.
Fine, that I did and I have 5 separate little strategies for each of
these ace positions.

But, am I right to presume that I need to use each strategy
SEPARATELY in conjunction with the 5 different Aces positions, as
listed above in the Wizard of Odds link? Or is there is a single
strategy that would combine all of these Ace positions?

Of interest, in comparing the 5 different strategies, the only REAL
difference I see in play is when you have 3 Aces in position vs. a
PAT Full House - there you would break up the Full House. This
differs from the basic 8-5 Bonus Poker strategy. But with 2 Aces in
position you would keep the Full House, just like in 8-5 Bonus Poker.
I could be missing something, but this is what I am seeing.

Any feedback out there would really be great. I initially assumed the
strategy for ACE$ Bonus Poker would be roughly the same as 8-5 Bonus
Poker, because catching the 4 aces in sequence (either ACE$- or -ACE$)
is such a rare occurence.

John Hunady

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Wow Bonus ACE$ still exists somewhere.

There used to be a coin-clunking $1 bank in the Edgewater in Laughlin. The
ACE$ and the royal were on meters.

I do believe a member of this group hit the ACE$ at about $43k. I used to
make my trip potshot $1 donation on this bank when it was ripe enough in the
olden' days.

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In a message dated 12/3/08 6:17:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
johnhunady@... writes:

> Anyone out there dabble in creating a strategy for 8-5 ACE$ Bonus
> Poker? This is an offshoot of 8-5 Bonus Poker, providing an
> additional 4,000 coin bonus for 4 special aces arranged in

sequence,

> either ACE$- or -ACE$. This game returns 99.41% compared to

99.17%

> for 8-5 Bonus Poker.
>
> As instructed in Wizard of Odds, I took Jean Scott's Frugal Video
> Poker program and produced 5 different strategies using the

different

> paybacks for 4 Aces, using 80 coins for Aces in wrong position,

94

> coins for NO Aces at all (basic 8-5 strategy), 110 coins for 1

Ace in

> position, 200 for 2 Aces in position and 440 for 3 Aces in

position.

> Fine, that I did and I have 5 separate little strategies for each

of

> these ace positions.
>
> But, am I right to presume that I need to use each strategy
> SEPARATELY in conjunction with the 5 different Aces positions, as
> listed above in the Wizard of Odds link? Or is there is a single
> strategy that would combine all of these Ace positions?
>
> Of interest, in comparing the 5 different strategies, the only

REAL

> difference I see in play is when you have 3 Aces in position vs.

a

> PAT Full House - there you would break up the Full House. This
> differs from the basic 8-5 Bonus Poker strategy. But with 2 Aces

in

> position you would keep the Full House, just like in 8-5 Bonus

Poker.

> I could be missing something, but this is what I am seeing.
>
> Any feedback out there would really be great. I initially assumed

the

> strategy for ACE$ Bonus Poker would be roughly the same as 8-5

Bonus

> Poker, because catching the 4 aces in sequence (either ACE$- or -

ACE$)

> is such a rare occurence.
>
> John Hunady
>
>
>
>

******
Wow Bonus ACE$ still exists somewhere.

There used to be a coin-clunking $1 bank in the Edgewater in

Laughlin. The

ACE$ and the royal were on meters.

I do believe a member of this group hit the ACE$ at about $43k. I

used to

make my trip potshot $1 donation on this bank when it was ripe

enough in the

olden' days.

BS<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Make your life easier with all your

friends, email, and

favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?

optin=new-dp&amp;

icid=aolcom40vanity&amp;ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)</HTML>

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GrayleeGray,

Thanks for the input! Some of the Indian casinos in California still
have Ace$ Bonus, but none with meters. The deominations i saw were
$0.25, $0.50 and I believe, $1

Best Regards,
John

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