We live near Winstar casino in Oklahoma. Is there anything worth
playing there at all? We go to Vegas often and have never been to
Winstar.
Winstar Casino
Winstar doesn't have much VP, and since they don't do cash back or any
other kind of frequent player reward any more, even the "good"
paytables don't get you over 100% - they're just exactly what they are.
A little bit of backstory here: Winstar started life as a typical
bingo-based Indian casino. All the machines, including VP, were just
front ends for a big multi-player bingo game. The VP was 9-6 JOB, but
I could never figure out if the return was really the same since it
was a bingo game, not true VP...but I suspected it wasn't.
However, as a bingo-based casino, they did offer moderate cash back
and cash-based frequent player reward mailers, and since they're the
closest action to my Dallas home base, we dropped in every now and then.
About two years ago, something must have changed with the regulations
for Indian casinos in Oklahoma, because suddenly the bingo-based
machines started to be replaced with genuine slot machines, including
a few IGT VP machines. These new machines did not take the Winstar
player card (they were TITO machines), and so you didn't get cash back
or player tracking with them, and thus no frequent player rewards either.
Fast forward to today: The casino is now about 80% true slot machines,
all TITO machines.
Specifics about VP: There are two $1/2/5 IGT machines in the the new
"High Limit" area. Good paytables, including 9-6 JOB, 8-5 Bonus and so
on. Very hard to get a seat on weekends.
In the main (newer) part of the casino, there is a single bank of
about six .05 to .25 multidenom IGT machines, with the 97% paytables
you normally find at these denominations.
In the "Circus" casino (the older, original part), there is a a bank
of about fourteen .25/.50/$1/$2 slant tops. The paytables vary with
the bet, but the $1 and $2 paytables are good.
As the closest casino to Dallas, the place gets VERY crowded on
weekends. If you go on a weekend, get there early or you'll be hard
pressed to get a seat. Since even the good VP machines have low
denomination/bad paytable options, people tend to get on them and stay
on them for long periods, resulting in other players circling the
banks of machines like hawks waiting to pounce on an empty machine.
With all that said (probably more than you wanted to know, right?),
I'll tell you that I've never had a big day at Winstar. I play $1 and
higher, but have never hit anything major there, and I've been going a
long time. However, when I can get a machine, I can usually be assured
of being able to play for a long time, and mostly come out even or
only slightly behind, thanks to the 98 to 99% returns.
My wife's tactic is to play their penny and .02 slots at max bet, and
she does very well there. She's gotten a lot of W2G wins there in this
way, and enjoys the large variety of these machines available. Their
system for paying out W2G's is awful...it takes about an hour to get
paid on a weekend, which we both figure is just their way of making
sure you give some of it back while you're waiting to get paid.
Finally, in the interests of a total report: The only table games are
blackjack. I don't play, so I don't know the minimums or limits.
There are four restaurants, but only one of them is even decent. The
buffet is terrible, and the "midway" cafe serves burgers and such, and
isn't very good. They've recently opened an Italian restaurant, which
is ok. The steakhouse is the best, but it's only open from 5pm on.
Best bet is to go down the road to the restaurants in Gainesville, Tx.
Hope that all helps!
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We live near Winstar casino in Oklahoma. Is there anything worth
playing there at all? We go to Vegas often and have never been to
Winstar.