Why not Reno (instead?)

[tedchee]

In a message dated 11/18/2004 10:52:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

<<<These greedheads here in vegas need to be shown a lesson, that they
can't just keep gouging and gouging and expect the sheep to keep
crowding in to be sheared (although that's how it indeed looks at
the moment). Take your business up to Northern Nevada, where it will
be appreciated!>>>

The best antidote for the rising rates of all things Las Vegas would be a
new casino in Barstow. This would choke off a significant amount of SoCal
traffic & then you'd have the "Thunder Valley" reaction -- cheap rates, bounceback
mailers, and a genuine appreciation for your business.

For best results after casino opens, defer all trips to LV till bounceback &
room offers rise to levels you've never seen before, then deign to pick up
the phone & fit them in between trips to other gaming destinations.

You may be amused but everything goes in cycles. Don't know where the peak
is but there's no cheap interest rates to sustain this sector. When room rates
& show prices start falling, don't book right away because they'll probably
go lower. If not, then why not Reno?

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[pesach_kremen]

Except for those of you who are comped, i agree. It is time to stop putting up with $3.50 ATM fees (New Frontier), outrageous and dishonest taxi costs ($3.20 flag drop and illegal tunnel routings), energy and phone surcharges of $4.50/night (many properties), 6:5 rip off blackjack, decreasing value pay tables, decreasing slot and cash comps, etc.. I can avoid much of this due comps, using one of the few Vegas Values (CAT system), use a bank that has branches an ATM's in vegas, and restrict BJ play to decent games, but for those who are not established RENO might be the better bet, especially from the Bay area with Amtrak Train and Train-Bus Service to the middle of downtown RENO.

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From: TedChee@aol.com
Reply-To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Why not Reno (instead?)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:46:32 EST

In a message dated 11/18/2004 10:52:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:

<<<These greedheads here in vegas need to be shown a lesson, that they
can't just keep gouging and gouging and expect the sheep to keep
crowding in to be sheared (although that's how it indeed looks at
the moment). Take your business up to Northern Nevada, where it will
be appreciated!>>>

The best antidote for the rising rates of all things Las Vegas would be a
new casino in Barstow. This would choke off a significant amount of SoCal
traffic & then you'd have the "Thunder Valley" reaction -- cheap rates, bounceback
mailers, and a genuine appreciation for your business.

For best results after casino opens, defer all trips to LV till bounceback &
room offers rise to levels you've never seen before, then deign to pick up
the phone & fit them in between trips to other gaming destinations.

You may be amused but everything goes in cycles. Don't know where the peak
is but there's no cheap interest rates to sustain this sector. When room rates
& show prices start falling, don't book right away because they'll probably
go lower. If not, then why not Reno?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jackessiebabe]

>
The best antidote for the rising rates of all things Las Vegas

would be a

new casino in Barstow. This would choke off a significant amount

of SoCal

traffic & then you'd have the "Thunder Valley" reaction -- cheap

rates, bounceback

mailers, and a genuine appreciation for your business.

For best results after casino opens, defer all trips to LV till

bounceback &

room offers rise to levels you've never seen before, then deign

to pick up

the phone & fit them in between trips to other gaming

destinations.

You may be amused but everything goes in cycles. Don't know where

the peak

is but there's no cheap interest rates to sustain this sector.

When room rates

& show prices start falling, don't book right away because

they'll probably

go lower. If not, then why not Reno?

Hi Friend,

While I agree with most points that you make, I still feel that LV
remains a viable, fun, and potentially profitable venue in which to
enjoy the game of VP.

As of the the last time that I was in LV (late Sept. '04) there was,
in the downtown area at least (if you are willing to play .25
denom.) plenty of 10/7DB, FPKBJW, FPDW, DDW, and DowntownDW, all
payimg 100% or more.

I understand that these games, plus 10/6DDB, are also available at
the locals casinos, in outlying areas.

Additionally, a lot of casinos still offer generous comps AND CB,
plus some monthly mailers with free play etc. I agree that it is not
as great as it used to be, but IMO,it's still enough to keep me
coming back several times a year.

Let's face it....the Old Days are gone, and will not be back. It
matters not what the reason is, or whom ever is to blame for
actually killing the "Golden Goose", the era when the casinos were
giving it away, is over. But, I still believe that there's enough
left to satisfy most players. At least the ones I know well, who are
all basically knowledgeable about the game, and fussy about what
they play.

I also have a strong feeling that, if hordes of advantage players
descend on Reno, exactly the same thing will occur, that has occured
in LV. We can then all try Laughlin and see how long the good vp
lasts there.

Perhaps, if we set our "expected rewards" threshold a little lower,
we might get more enjoyment out of playing the game we all love.
Just my opinion, of course. Feel free to disagree.

                 Babe

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