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Why I won't be back to the Sun for a long time

For me there are two things missing, cash back and royals.

I'd compare MS to the nicest casinos in Vegas. It has great rooms, suites, restaurants and shows. My wife daughter and mother-in-law love the shopping. We have also taken day trips to mystic and the Indian Museum at Foxwoods is impressive.

I have never paid for anything at Mohegan (except getting killed gambling) . When I got the invite to the Tourney, (didn't win anything) I e-mailed my host. We had two rooms (1 comped) (4) tickets to the Celtics, dinner at Pompei and Caesar plus some shopping. This is significantly more in comps then I typically receive in Las Vegas.

With that said, I can't wait to get back to Vegas in December. I lost over 3K on 32K in on Sat. I have now gone over 18 months and over 250K hands without a royal.

Joel

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OK Mel. I call your 2 cents and raise you another penny.

Mohegan Sun (and Foxwoods) are primarily designed for middle rollers -
- matching CT's demographic as a middle to upper-middle class state.
There is little for .25 players, nothing for .05 players, and as we
see, comps really taper off for $5+ players. Look at their most
popular game: blackjack. Very few $10 tables, mostly $15 min, and
then almost never a table higher than $100 min -- not much for high
or low rollers. I put together a profile of a typical player out to
get the most out of MS:

He has 50 gambling days/yr. On the average day, he puts in $16,666
in $1 PKM* (or JOB) and earns $185 points, or $9250/yr. This just
barely qualifies him for Sachem, easier parking, lounge access, and
free tickets to all but the very highest demand shows, better slot
tournaments, and the highest level of gift/gas cards or other
marketing promotions. After that level, the advantages really start
to thin out.

I believe it is somewhat novel the way both casinos give out a
generous point level but w/o many free comps, and no cash back. It
is good for the moderate player and a refreshing alternative the
normal casinos one might find; but it is not that great for for the
player who wants to live there. I think if they were ever persuaded
to offer cash back, it would be about a third of the 1.11% they have
now, and there would be little to gain on these $1 machines for a lot
of work. At least now, up to a certain level, it's a win/win
situation for the patron and casino since they only have to pay out a
portion of your point total.

So I think you have to take it for what it is: a great place to go to
occasionally. I spend a lot of my points on extra tickets to arena
shows which are the same price as other shows in the state, and would
like to see if the travel service gets more desirable offerings. I
also like the picturesque setting. In the summer, I did go out for a
hike down to the cove and the Thames river. I went out the hotel
main entrance and crossed the main road guard rail. There are wood
chips layed down that leads to a slightly steep downhill path to the
cove with a an area to walk around it. They do not make this area
inviting, but no one stopped me from hiking around all afternoon.
Afterall, I think it was the more "Indian" thing to do.

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--- Hi Joel,
Ironically we had dinner at Pompei and Caesar Sat night with friends
and also saw the celtic game. Maybe we even saw each othe and didn't
realize it. My wife and I are going tom at noon for the $40G cash
drawing we were invited to in the ballroom. Are you going this
weekend? One day we will have to hook up and meet.
Mel

For me there are two things missing, cash back and royals.

I'd compare MS to the nicest casinos in Vegas. It has great rooms,

suites, restaurants and shows. My wife daughter and mother-in-law
love the shopping. We have also taken day trips to mystic and the
Indian Museum at Foxwoods is impressive.

I have never paid for anything at Mohegan (except getting killed

gambling) . When I got the invite to the Tourney, (didn't win
anything) I e-mailed my host. We had two rooms (1 comped) (4)
tickets to the Celtics, dinner at Pompei and Caesar plus some
shopping. This is significantly more in comps then I typically
receive in Las Vegas.

With that said, I can't wait to get back to Vegas in December. I

lost over 3K on 32K in on Sat. I have now gone over 18 months and
over 250K hands without a royal.

Joel

OK Mel. I call your 2 cents and raise you another penny.

Mohegan Sun (and Foxwoods) are primarily designed for middle

rollers -

- matching CT's demographic as a middle to upper-middle class

state.

There is little for .25 players, nothing for .05 players, and as

we

see, comps really taper off for $5+ players. Look at their most
popular game: blackjack. Very few $10 tables, mostly $15 min, and
then almost never a table higher than $100 min -- not much for

high

or low rollers. I put together a profile of a typical player out

to

get the most out of MS:

He has 50 gambling days/yr. On the average day, he puts in

$16,666

in $1 PKM* (or JOB) and earns $185 points, or $9250/yr. This just
barely qualifies him for Sachem, easier parking, lounge access,

and

free tickets to all but the very highest demand shows, better slot
tournaments, and the highest level of gift/gas cards or other
marketing promotions. After that level, the advantages really

start

to thin out.

I believe it is somewhat novel the way both casinos give out a
generous point level but w/o many free comps, and no cash back.

It

is good for the moderate player and a refreshing alternative the
normal casinos one might find; but it is not that great for for

the

player who wants to live there. I think if they were ever

persuaded

to offer cash back, it would be about a third of the 1.11% they

have

now, and there would be little to gain on these $1 machines for a

lot

of work. At least now, up to a certain level, it's a win/win
situation for the patron and casino since they only have to pay

out a

portion of your point total.

So I think you have to take it for what it is: a great place to go

to

occasionally. I spend a lot of my points on extra tickets to

arena

shows which are the same price as other shows in the state, and

would

like to see if the travel service gets more desirable offerings.

I

also like the picturesque setting. In the summer, I did go out

for a

hike down to the cove and the Thames river. I went out the hotel
main entrance and crossed the main road guard rail. There are

wood

chips layed down that leads to a slightly steep downhill path to

the

cove with a an area to walk around it. They do not make this area
inviting, but no one stopped me from hiking around all afternoon.
Afterall, I think it was the more "Indian" thing to do.

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