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Which Way Do Casinos Go Now?

Think about it from the casino operators viewpoint.

How good are the Indian casino pay schedules?

How are they doing attendance-wise?

Do the answers give you any clue as to the decisions by
Harrahs, et al.

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--- On Wed, 6/3/09, ggman444 <gleng4444@comcast.net> wrote:

From: ggman444 <gleng4444@comcast.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Which Way Do Casinos Go Now?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 4:39 PM

      --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, "Robert Levine" <stuckinvegas@ ...> wrote:

Since the slowdown, they've lowered the room rates, some show prices, and maybe some food and beverage. [REMAINDER OF ORIGINAL POST DELETED]

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REPLY: I'm currently arranging a 3-week LV stay during the World Series of Poker. Three observations: (1) Room rates are WAY down. (2) Comps are WAY down, i.e., harder to get via hosts, at least for quarter-to-dollar play. (3) Per VPFree and other sources, VP schedules are getting worse every day.

A year or so ago, someone on this site (I can't recall the name ot I'd give due credit) predicted that the casinos' first reaction to the economic meltdown would be to tighten up [true], but that their second move would be to make very nice offers to middling-to- big players [also true]. Unfortunately for VP-playing comp seekers, the casinos now appear to have entered a Phase 3 in which they'll essentially give the rooms away but refuse to offer customers a fair gamble.

I estimate that I've stayed 400+ nights in Vegas over the past 15 years without paying for a room (or for any food unless severe hunger demanded it). That streak will end on this trip. Two of us will split rooms at Harrah's @$32 and the IP @$22, but neither place has any playable games. Therefore, we'll pay for the rooms, play live poker at convenient times, and read books or watch sports during the hours when we would have played VP. Time will tell how many customers are smart enough to make lots of money and ignorant or addicted enough to give it away playing horrible house games.

The GMan

PS: While I'm here, I want to add myself to the long list of others who have praised Skip Hughes. He fully deserevs his place in the VP Hall of Fame.

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Some are pretty darn good!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, george lee <glee4ever@...> wrote:

How good are the Indian casino pay schedules?

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Some are pretty darn good!

This is not a facetious question: Where are they, and what are their best games?

Jim

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, george lee <glee4ever@> wrote:

Although there is decent coverage in the vpfree2 database, I have found many gems that I would not think about revealing on the internet. I'm sorry, and I don't mean to sound rude at all. One just has to scout these things for one's self. Other than that, I think the San Diego area has a lot of good machines that are common knowledge. If you plan on going to an Indian casino, I would recommend looking at EVERY machine. You may just find your own little gems.

-BB

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jroxen" <jrojro@...> wrote:

This is not a facetious question: Where are they, and what are their best games?

Jim

Why was the remainder of the post deleted. I didn't say anything wrong.

Since the slowdown, they've lowered the room rates, some show prices, and maybe some food and beverage. [REMAINDER OF ORIGINAL POST DELETED]

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