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#1

I don't think so, Harry. Not even close.

I believe it was you who previously calculated that the natural quad cycle,
including one-Deuce quints, for NSUDs is 505. I might not be remembering this
number exactly, but that is pretty close.

Brian

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In a message dated 4/22/2008 2:00:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
harry.porter@verizon.net writes:

The information that the average bonus payout on deuces
remains at 423 is nothing but startling. Before strategy adjustments,
the quad cycle is 1939.

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#2

I don't think so, Harry. Not even close.

I believe it was you who previously calculated that the natural quad

cycle,

including one-Deuce quints, for NSUDs is 505. I might not be

remembering this

number exactly, but that is pretty close.

Brian

I learned this trick from Harry some time ago so he gets credit for
it. On one of the programs you can take the NSUD payscale and punch
it into the Deuces Deluxe game and get the natural quad averages. It
will give you the average on 4 deuces and the average on the other
natural quads. Then you just average the two numbers together. Good
luck.

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#3

I wrote:

The information that the average bonus payout on deuces
remains at 423 is nothing but startling. Before strategy
adjustments, the quad cycle is 1939.

bjaygold wrote:

I don't think so, Harry. Not even close.

I believe it was you who previously calculated that the natural quad
cycle, including one-Deuce quints, for NSUDs is 505. I might not be
remembering this number exactly, but that is pretty close.

I'll have to hunt up the previous post. Right now I'm looking at my
current spreadsheet, which foots cleanly to the proper 99.72% game
return (base strategy).

The hand frequencies feeding into that return provide for a natural
quad frequency of 1939. This includes 5K w/ 1 deuce and quad deuces.

As I look at it, when I consider the deuce "interference", the fact
that you don't have the one high-card holds of JB games, and a much
greater frequency that you break a dealt pair, it seems natural to me
that the natural quad frequency would be very much lower in deuces.

Frankly, I do all this stuff with numerous distractions. I'll look at
this later. (I'm off to cast a vote for the underdog, Ron Paul ...
*kidding* :wink: Obama doesn't have a shot in PA)

- H.

#4

Harry Porter wrote:

Frankly, I do all this stuff with numerous distractions. I'll look at
this later. (I'm off to cast a vote for the underdog, Ron Paul ...
*kidding* :wink: Obama doesn't have a shot in PA)

One foot practically out the door and I slap my head in realization
that I didn't count natural quads themselves (i.e. natural 4K, plus
another card other than a deuce.)

Bev's growling ...

- H.