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In a message dated 1/5/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
npf152512@yahoo.com writes:

So, let's start the year with hearing about some of your good
unexpected fortune on this "bumpy" road called video poker. It might
just give you an extra boost to "hang in there".

Gee, I've actually had several but the ones that are bright in my memory are
also mostly recorded with photos on the website: I have had two dealt Royal
Flushes and several dealt quads playing my beloved (NOT ADVANTAGE) Super
Bonus Aces. And, of course, my fabulous seven-card straight flush with joker at
Pai Gow just before New Year's, a good thing because Uncle doesn't get to
keep the withholding tax for too long!!

Happy New Year and thanks for starting this topic. I LOVE to read about
happy VP players.

Karen

"She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you
would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
- Mark Twain

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I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the year 2007. Minus
expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or $500 a month depending on
how I feel.

She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids in a losing streak.
Especially, me.

You ain't never gonna be like me, kid. Find something else to do.

Not only that, you escaped from Ely, too. Now, that's impressive.

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

>
I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the year 2007. Minus
expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or $500 a month depending on
how I feel.

She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids in a losing streak.
Especially, me.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:

>
>
> >
> I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the year 2007. Minus
> expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or $500 a month

depending on

> how I feel.
>
> She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids in a losing

streak.

> Especially, me.

Not only that, you escaped from Ely, too. Now, that's impressive.

Ah, yes. Ely, Nevada!! Where the women are men, and the men are
animals. While I sent you a post one time explaining what I was
doing there, I don't think I ever explained to vpFREE'rs what the
attraction was. The play has been snuffed out for quite some time
now but I'll go ahead and tell what I was doing there. Hopefully, my
rusty memory won't fail me.

When I first arrived at the Hotel Nevada there there were 10 spin
pokers with 5 cent and 10 cent FPJW. But this eventually went to 14
machines with 5 cent, 10 cent, 20 cent, and 25 cent FPJW. The spin
pokers were the most popular machines at Hotel Nevada.

The slot club was not a conventional slot club. You got a card with
your name and a number on it. To be elegible for most of the
promotions you had to have one of these cards. But they didn't have
card readers on the machines so there was no way for them to track an
individual player. I took this opportunity to spread my play out
over all the machines to sandwich my win between the bad players.

I would usually lock up two machines and bounce back and forth.

Thre were several promotions:

1. You got a dollar for every natural quad up to $5 max. In other
words, if you make a single line quad you get a dollar, double line
gets $2, three-way gets $3, five way gets $5, but a flopped quad only
gets $5. When you hit a 4K you would have to stop, turn your light
on and wait a minute or two for the pay. That's why I locked up two
machines. This promotion was worth about $10 per hour to me. I
played about 40 hours per week so this was worth $400 a week to me.

2. They also had 4-of-a-kind cards. You filled them in by hitting
quads. Once you filled one in you got another one. You could work
two at once, but no more. You got a free Megabucks spin for every
one you filled in. Then you got a spin on a house wheel that had
money on it for every card you filled in. I put the equity at about
$8 per card.

3. You got a drawing ticket for every natural quad that went into a
drum. It was a very small counter drum. On Wednesday and Sunday
nights for one hour they pulled names. There were ten winners of $75
each. When you hit for the $75 you are disqualified from winning
again that night. I played well over a hundred of these nights and
hit the $75 all but twice. This was worth $150 a week to me.

4. On drawing nights the last two winners were for $150 and $200.
Everyone was elegible for one of these even if you had hit for the
$75. I batted about 25% on this one so it was worth about $90 a week
to me.

5. During the drawings, if you had a piece of clothing that had the
Hotel Nevada logo on it you were elegible for a bonus on certain
machine pays. It was called a "shirt bonus." I payed $8 for a tee
shirt to qualify. If you hit a $50 pay or higher at 5 cents or 10
cents you got a $50 bonus. If you hit a $200 pay or higher on 20
cents or 25 cents you got a $75 bonus. For me the optimum play was
at 10 cents. You would hit a $50 pay or higher about every 200
deals. Several times I hit 5 during an hours play, once I hit 6, but
my average was three. You had to stop playing and they had to verify
and do paperwork so this slowed things down considerably. This
promotion was worth $300 a week to me.

6. For two hours after every drawing royals paid double. But on the
spin pokers, if you hit a multi-way royal you only got the bonus for
one extra royal. Still, this was quite a significant add-on.

7. At the quarterly draw there were eight $500 winners and one lucky
person won a car. It was a used car maybe 4 or 5 years old. I
batted about 50% on the $500. I never won the car.

8. Comps. I usually got 2 or three $6 meal comps a week. Huge.
Absolutely huge. Hey, who's complaining? I bought my own meals.
Hotel comps? Are you kidding? No way, Jose. I paid my own rent. I
stayed at the Motel White Pine a few blocks away. Hey, comps ain't
everything!!

I mainly played the ten cent level. So, in short, they were paying
me about $1000 a week to play a game in which I had $1000 a week in
expectation.

And that was my big attraction to Ely. Now it's just another one-
horse town that I don't want to live in.

So, where am I now? I'm in Corn Junction. Hey, a play is a play!

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:

Well done, but as I mentioned to you, I already knew of the play
(actually since 2004 or so), but I wasn't going there, even at
gunpoint. I could have been talked into doing it for a week, for say,
$5K or so in EV. I didn't realize the slot club was that good.
Definitely a 10 star low roller play. I think I was playing quarter
Spin FPJWKB at Atlantis in Reno with COD, but that was a measly 1% or
so lol.

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the year 2007. Minus
> > expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or $500 a month
depending on
> > how I feel.
> >
> > She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids in a losing
streak.
> > Especially, me.
>
> Not only that, you escaped from Ely, too. Now, that's impressive.
>

Ah, yes. Ely, Nevada!! Where the women are men, and the men are
animals. While I sent you a post one time explaining what I was
doing there, I don't think I ever explained to vpFREE'rs what the
attraction was. The play has been snuffed out for quite some time
now but I'll go ahead and tell what I was doing there. Hopefully, my
rusty memory won't fail me.

When I first arrived at the Hotel Nevada there there were 10 spin
pokers with 5 cent and 10 cent FPJW. But this eventually went to 14
machines with 5 cent, 10 cent, 20 cent, and 25 cent FPJW. The spin
pokers were the most popular machines at Hotel Nevada.

The slot club was not a conventional slot club. You got a card with
your name and a number on it. To be elegible for most of the
promotions you had to have one of these cards. But they didn't have
card readers on the machines so there was no way for them to track an
individual player. I took this opportunity to spread my play out
over all the machines to sandwich my win between the bad players.

I would usually lock up two machines and bounce back and forth.

Thre were several promotions:

1. You got a dollar for every natural quad up to $5 max. In other
words, if you make a single line quad you get a dollar, double line
gets $2, three-way gets $3, five way gets $5, but a flopped quad only
gets $5. When you hit a 4K you would have to stop, turn your light
on and wait a minute or two for the pay. That's why I locked up two
machines. This promotion was worth about $10 per hour to me. I
played about 40 hours per week so this was worth $400 a week to me.

2. They also had 4-of-a-kind cards. You filled them in by hitting
quads. Once you filled one in you got another one. You could work
two at once, but no more. You got a free Megabucks spin for every
one you filled in. Then you got a spin on a house wheel that had
money on it for every card you filled in. I put the equity at about
$8 per card.

3. You got a drawing ticket for every natural quad that went into a
drum. It was a very small counter drum. On Wednesday and Sunday
nights for one hour they pulled names. There were ten winners of $75
each. When you hit for the $75 you are disqualified from winning
again that night. I played well over a hundred of these nights and
hit the $75 all but twice. This was worth $150 a week to me.

4. On drawing nights the last two winners were for $150 and $200.
Everyone was elegible for one of these even if you had hit for the
$75. I batted about 25% on this one so it was worth about $90 a week
to me.

5. During the drawings, if you had a piece of clothing that had the
Hotel Nevada logo on it you were elegible for a bonus on certain
machine pays. It was called a "shirt bonus." I payed $8 for a tee
shirt to qualify. If you hit a $50 pay or higher at 5 cents or 10
cents you got a $50 bonus. If you hit a $200 pay or higher on 20
cents or 25 cents you got a $75 bonus. For me the optimum play was
at 10 cents. You would hit a $50 pay or higher about every 200
deals. Several times I hit 5 during an hours play, once I hit 6, but
my average was three. You had to stop playing and they had to verify
and do paperwork so this slowed things down considerably. This
promotion was worth $300 a week to me.

6. For two hours after every drawing royals paid double. But on the
spin pokers, if you hit a multi-way royal you only got the bonus for
one extra royal. Still, this was quite a significant add-on.

7. At the quarterly draw there were eight $500 winners and one lucky
person won a car. It was a used car maybe 4 or 5 years old. I
batted about 50% on the $500. I never won the car.

8. Comps. I usually got 2 or three $6 meal comps a week. Huge.
Absolutely huge. Hey, who's complaining? I bought my own meals.
Hotel comps? Are you kidding? No way, Jose. I paid my own rent. I
stayed at the Motel White Pine a few blocks away. Hey, comps ain't
everything!!

I mainly played the ten cent level. So, in short, they were paying
me about $1000 a week to play a game in which I had $1000 a week in
expectation.

And that was my big attraction to Ely. Now it's just another one-
horse town that I don't want to live in.

So, where am I now? I'm in Corn Junction. Hey, a play is a play!

> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
> <paladingamingllc@> wrote:
> >

Well done, but as I mentioned to you, I already knew of the play
(actually since 2004 or so), but I wasn't going there, even at
gunpoint. I could have been talked into doing it for a week, for

say,

$5K or so in EV. I didn't realize the slot club was that good.
Definitely a 10 star low roller play. I think I was playing quarter
Spin FPJWKB at Atlantis in Reno with COD, but that was a measly 1%

or

so lol.

I got to play the Atlantis Quarter Spin Poker Jokers for a week. I
wish I hadn't of had that opportunity. I was actually the last
person to get to play them.

I was in Minden sweeping out Flush Attacks and House A Rockins' a few
times every day. My best friend, who lives in Reno, calls me and
says "Hey, you better get up here if you want to play some Quarter
Spin Poker Jokers." So I took off for Reno.

My buddy and me were not playing partners. He played his money and I
played mine. There were two machines in one spot and two machines in
another spot. So I took the slant tops and he took the uprights.

I was struggling on the play, but my buddy was going off for royal
after royal after multi-way royal.

I was walking over to talk to Al one day and saw a suit looking at
him and the machine. I could tell the wheels were clicking in his
brain. I warned Al about it.

The next morning I was in early. I was playing along and saw a tech
with a clipboard sit down at the other machine. I got up and cut a
big circle around then came up behind him. Yep, he was messing with
the payscales. When he was through, he got up and left, never
looking at me. I walked around and checked the machine. Yep, he
sliced it.

So I'm wondering what to do. They are obviously going to leave me
alone, but when I get through playing for the day they're going to
change the payscale. I decide to go eat. I stop by the other two
machines and they have already been changed. Yep, it's over.

After breakfast I go back and check my machine. Yep, it was
changed.

So I call Al and say "Hey, don't bother coming into work today."

I got my butt kicked on the play. Al made a killing.

No wonder that play was killed. The casino executives
from Ely took their time machine and read your email
to the group and went back in time and changed the
paytables.

Bill
Palms Moderator

···

--- mickeycrimm <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc"
<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm"
<mickeycrimm@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the
year 2007. Minus
> > expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or
$500 a month
depending on
> > how I feel.
> >
> > She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids
in a losing
streak.
> > Especially, me.
>
> Not only that, you escaped from Ely, too. Now,
that's impressive.
>

Ah, yes. Ely, Nevada!! Where the women are men,
and the men are
animals. While I sent you a post one time
explaining what I was
doing there, I don't think I ever explained to
vpFREE'rs what the
attraction was. The play has been snuffed out for
quite some time
now but I'll go ahead and tell what I was doing
there. Hopefully, my
rusty memory won't fail me.

When I first arrived at the Hotel Nevada there there
were 10 spin
pokers with 5 cent and 10 cent FPJW. But this
eventually went to 14
machines with 5 cent, 10 cent, 20 cent, and 25 cent
FPJW. The spin
pokers were the most popular machines at Hotel
Nevada.

The slot club was not a conventional slot club. You
got a card with
your name and a number on it. To be elegible for
most of the
promotions you had to have one of these cards. But
they didn't have
card readers on the machines so there was no way for
them to track an
individual player. I took this opportunity to
spread my play out
over all the machines to sandwich my win between the
bad players.

I would usually lock up two machines and bounce back
and forth.

Thre were several promotions:

1. You got a dollar for every natural quad up to $5
max. In other
words, if you make a single line quad you get a
dollar, double line
gets $2, three-way gets $3, five way gets $5, but a
flopped quad only
gets $5. When you hit a 4K you would have to stop,
turn your light
on and wait a minute or two for the pay. That's why
I locked up two
machines. This promotion was worth about $10 per
hour to me. I
played about 40 hours per week so this was worth
$400 a week to me.

2. They also had 4-of-a-kind cards. You filled
them in by hitting
quads. Once you filled one in you got another one.
You could work
two at once, but no more. You got a free Megabucks
spin for every
one you filled in. Then you got a spin on a house
wheel that had
money on it for every card you filled in. I put the
equity at about
$8 per card.

3. You got a drawing ticket for every natural quad
that went into a
drum. It was a very small counter drum. On
Wednesday and Sunday
nights for one hour they pulled names. There were
ten winners of $75
each. When you hit for the $75 you are disqualified
from winning
again that night. I played well over a hundred of
these nights and
hit the $75 all but twice. This was worth $150 a
week to me.

4. On drawing nights the last two winners were for
$150 and $200.
Everyone was elegible for one of these even if you
had hit for the
$75. I batted about 25% on this one so it was worth
about $90 a week
to me.

5. During the drawings, if you had a piece of
clothing that had the
Hotel Nevada logo on it you were elegible for a
bonus on certain
machine pays. It was called a "shirt bonus." I
payed $8 for a tee
shirt to qualify. If you hit a $50 pay or higher at
5 cents or 10
cents you got a $50 bonus. If you hit a $200 pay or
higher on 20
cents or 25 cents you got a $75 bonus. For me the
optimum play was
at 10 cents. You would hit a $50 pay or higher
about every 200
deals. Several times I hit 5 during an hours play,
once I hit 6, but
my average was three. You had to stop playing and
they had to verify
and do paperwork so this slowed things down
considerably. This
promotion was worth $300 a week to me.

6. For two hours after every drawing royals paid
double. But on the
spin pokers, if you hit a multi-way royal you only
got the bonus for
one extra royal. Still, this was quite a
significant add-on.

7. At the quarterly draw there were eight $500
winners and one lucky
person won a car. It was a used car maybe 4 or 5
years old. I
batted about 50% on the $500. I never won the car.

8. Comps. I usually got 2 or three $6 meal comps a
week. Huge.
Absolutely huge. Hey, who's complaining? I bought
my own meals.
Hotel comps? Are you kidding? No way, Jose. I
paid my own rent. I
stayed at the Motel White Pine a few blocks away.
Hey, comps ain't
everything!!

I mainly played the ten cent level. So, in short,
they were paying
me about $1000 a week to play a game in which I had
$1000 a week in
expectation.

And that was my big attraction to Ely. Now it's
just another one-
horse town that I don't want to live in.

So, where am I now? I'm in Corn Junction. Hey, a
play is a play!

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More nonsense from Idiot Nation. Prove it. Post the 1099s to the
FILES section.

>
I came in at $82,000 and change, kid, for the year 2007. Minus
expenxes. I send my poor old mother $400 or $500 a month

depending on

how I feel.

She dam sure doesn't want to see any of her kids in a losing

streak.

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

Especially, me.

You ain't never gonna be like me, kid. Find something else to do.

I will not respond directly to Idiot Nation's post. He doesn't
deserve a response. But if I were to respond it probably would be
something like "Rob? Is that you, Rob?"

I didn't get one 1099 in 2007. If he doesn't know why then I won't
explain it to him. He doesn't deserve to know.

I did get plenty of W2G's. A couple are for $20,000 each.

I overperformed in 2007 for what I was doing. It was mainly because
I came up big on one very shorterm play. I had gotten into Wendover
to find a drawing promotion going on at the Wendover Nugget. I knew
enough about their drawing promotions to know that a couple days of
play on $5 NSUD would probably get me about 20% of the drum which
would be enough to cash at the drawing. That's what I would have to
play because the drawing was only a couple of days away. You get a
drawing ticket for every comp dollar you run. The comp meter
runs .44% on the NSUD.

I didn't figure my bankroll was big enough for $5 NSUD. Not playing
perpetually anyway. But I was only going to play for 2 1/2 days. If
I ran badly it would knock a big hole in my bankroll but I wouldn't
destroy it.

So on the very first day I held a 2 card royal and caught the other
three royal cards. My first $20,000 royal. Early on the second day
I held two royal cards and caught the other three royal cards again.
That's me, Mr. Luckbucket. This one brought the casino manager out
to meet me. My second $20,000 royal.

I decided to quit the play at that point. I hit the drawing for a
whopping $250. I netted $37,000 and change on the play. Otherwise,
my year would not have been as good.

They took my picture both times. I let them do it so I would look
like some idiot that just got lucky. I deposited my copies of the
pictures in the first garbage can I passed. That's how sentimental I
am. But they put my pictures up on the outside Marquee for a month.
Everywhere arouund town I went I got to hear "here comes, Mr. Lucky"
or "you lucky slob" or something along those lines.

I haven't drawn a paycheck in more than 15 years. I have no other
income but my gambling win. Wendover is about the only town that I
work RFB anymore. I like to eat, I like to keep a roof over my
head. I like to wear nice clothes. My bar bill in these podunk
towns runs $500 or $600 a month (I hate to drink alone). I send my
mother money.

How does a guy with no income do all this? How could a losing
gambler pull off such a thing. How could a breakeven gambler do it?
How could a slight winner do it? Well, a gambler can't pull off such
a thing if he is not making money.

Last night I was down at a local watering hole "drinkin' mash and
talkin' trash." My cell phone goes off. It's a hustler friend of
mine who is in Wendover. After exchanging pleasantries he says:

"Hey, I wanted to ask you--on the Coyote Cash when is the 'will go by
$1000' meter a play.
"Why? What's it on" I ask.
"$976" he said.
"Hang up then run over there, set the damb thing on Turbo, then bang
it 90 miles an hour until it goes!!! Play two machines if you can!!!"
"Okay, I'll call you back."

A couple of hours go by. I'm still "drinkin' mash and talkin' trash."
Then I remembered. He hasn't called me back. So I call him:

Hey, buddy. How'd you come out on that play?"
"I hit it at $983."
"Good job. How much did it cost you?"
"$200 he says."
"So you netted almost $800?"
"That's right" he says. "Hey, thanks for the help, Mickey."
"No, problem, now I've got to go. I've got Miss America sitting
right beside me."

My friend called me for one reason. He knows I know. He knows I get
it right. He knows I know how to get the money. He's not the only
one who cals me. I was glad to help him out.

I don't care if a detractor believes me or not. That's their
business. I just have one thing to say to them: Eat my dust!