Howdy
Everyone that actually does their work in the casino is "doing their job".By
being handed your money a service has been performed. End of story.
Grumpy
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Following this thread (and several others that have run over the years), I think that it is safe
to say that there are no hard and fast "rules" for tipping. We are all individuals and each of
us looks at things in our own way. If there are no "rules, laws, or legalities" you are free to
do as you FEEL, not as someone else tells you to feel.
And, as always, this is just my OPINION.
..... bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@...>
wrote:
Following this thread (and several others that have run over the
years), I think that it is safe to say that there are no hard and
fast "rules" for tipping. We are all individuals and each of
us looks at things in our own way. If there are no "rules, laws,
or legalities" you are free to do as you FEEL, not as someone else
tells you to feel. And, as always, this is just my OPINION.
My initial post stated there is no right or wrong answer.
But I think there is an important piece of information missing from
this discussion.
It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as part of their
compensation. But if in fact they are paid a generous salary and
benefits, then is little justification for a gratuity. A waiter, for
example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4 since the
restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the remainder of the hourly
wage.
So, does anyone know from a friend or relative working now in that
capacity what these slot attendants are paid hourly? Plus the
supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm less likely to tip
if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather throw an extra $5
to the maid who really needs it.
So, an important question - are hand-pay staff "fully" salaried, or
are gratuities assumed as part of their compensation?
Obviously, you are not familiar with Las Vegas and the Culinary union.
The maids, food servers, and bartenders all receive a half decent
salary, but also need the tips to afford the extreme rise in the cost
of living that has risen in this town over the last 5 - 10 years. It is
your choice to tip or not, but if you want really good service, it sure
doesn't hurt to open the wallet for a few dollars now and then.
It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as part of their
compensation. But if in fact they are paid a generous salary and
benefits, then is little justification for a gratuity. A waiter, for
example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4 since the
restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the remainder of the hourly
wage.So, does anyone know from a friend or relative working now in that
capacity what these slot attendants are paid hourly? Plus the
supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm less likely to tip
if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather throw an extra $5
to the maid who really needs it.So, an important question - are hand-pay staff "fully" salaried, or
are gratuities assumed as part of their compensation?
I know a few slot attendants and they were making $16/hr and up. This
all depended on the location and years on staff. Others told me they
were averaging 55k-70k a year. At one local casino the slot
attendants said they were averaging $1600-2000k per person every two
weeks on tips. Not shabby for a job requiring very little skill.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@>
wrote:> Following this thread (and several others that have run over the
>years), I think that it is safe to say that there are no hard and
>fast "rules" for tipping. We are all individuals and each of
> us looks at things in our own way. If there are no "rules, laws,
>or legalities" you are free to do as you FEEL, not as someone else
>tells you to feel. And, as always, this is just my OPINION.My initial post stated there is no right or wrong answer.
But I think there is an important piece of information missing from
this discussion.It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as part of their
compensation. But if in fact they are paid a generous salary and
benefits, then is little justification for a gratuity. A waiter,
for
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "npf15251" <npf15251@...> wrote:
example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4 since the
restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the remainder of the hourly
wage.So, does anyone know from a friend or relative working now in that
capacity what these slot attendants are paid hourly? Plus the
supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm less likely to tip
if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather throw an extra $5
to the maid who really needs it.So, an important question - are hand-pay staff "fully" salaried, or
are gratuities assumed as part of their compensation?
2000k? isnt that in the millions then? wow! some drs.
and nurses dont make that much in a year and their up
there in pay scale!
--- marvele66 <marvele66@yahoo.com> wrote:
I know a few slot attendants and they were making
$16/hr and up. This
all depended on the location and years on staff.
Others told me they
were averaging 55k-70k a year. At one local casino
the slot
attendants said they were averaging $1600-2000k per
person every two
weeks on tips. Not shabby for a job requiring very
little skill.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "npf15251"
<npf15251@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537"
<bornloser1537@>
> wrote:
>
> > Following this thread (and several others that
have run over the
> >years), I think that it is safe to say that there
are no hard and
> >fast "rules" for tipping. We are all individuals
and each of
> > us looks at things in our own way. If there are
no "rules, laws,
> >or legalities" you are free to do as you FEEL,
not as someone else
> >tells you to feel. And, as always, this is just
my OPINION.
>
> My initial post stated there is no right or wrong
answer.
>
> But I think there is an important piece of
information missing from
> this discussion.
>
> It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as
part of their
> compensation. But if in fact they are paid a
generous salary and
> benefits, then is little justification for a
gratuity. A waiter,
for
> example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4
since the
> restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the
remainder of the hourly
> wage.
>
> So, does anyone know from a friend or relative
working now in that
> capacity what these slot attendants are paid
hourly? Plus the
> supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm
less likely to tip
> if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather
throw an extra $5
> to the maid who really needs it.
>
> So, an important question - are hand-pay staff
"fully" salaried, or
> are gratuities assumed as part of their
compensation?
>
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, ale j <beaverjoe277@...> wrote:
2000k? isnt that in the millions then? wow! some drs.
and nurses dont make that much in a year and their up
there in pay scale!
--- marvele66 <marvele66@...> wrote:> I know a few slot attendants and they were making
> $16/hr and up. This
> all depended on the location and years on staff.
> Others told me they
> were averaging 55k-70k a year. At one local casino
> the slot
> attendants said they were averaging $1600-2000k per
> person every two
> weeks on tips. Not shabby for a job requiring very
> little skill.
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "npf15251"
> <npf15251@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537"
> <bornloser1537@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Following this thread (and several others that
> have run over the
> > >years), I think that it is safe to say that there
> are no hard and
> > >fast "rules" for tipping. We are all individuals
> and each of
> > > us looks at things in our own way. If there are
> no "rules, laws,
> > >or legalities" you are free to do as you FEEL,
> not as someone else
> > >tells you to feel. And, as always, this is just
> my OPINION.
> >
> > My initial post stated there is no right or wrong
> answer.
> >
> > But I think there is an important piece of
> information missing from
> > this discussion.
> >
> > It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as
> part of their
> > compensation. But if in fact they are paid a
> generous salary and
> > benefits, then is little justification for a
> gratuity. A waiter,
> for
> > example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4
> since the
> > restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the
> remainder of the hourly
> > wage.
> >
> > So, does anyone know from a friend or relative
> working now in that
> > capacity what these slot attendants are paid
> hourly? Plus the
> > supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm
> less likely to tip
> > if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather
> throw an extra $5
> > to the maid who really needs it.
> >
> > So, an important question - are hand-pay staff
> "fully" salaried, or
> > are gratuities assumed as part of their
> compensation?
> >
>
>
>
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Obviously, you are not familiar with Las Vegas and the Culinary
union.
The maids, food servers, and bartenders all receive a half decent
salary, but also need the tips to afford the extreme rise in the
cost
of living that has risen in this town over the last 5 - 10 years.
It is
your choice to tip or not, but if you want really good service, it
sure
doesn't hurt to open the wallet for a few dollars now and then.
>
> It is assumed that slot personnel receive tips as part of their
> compensation. But if in fact they are paid a generous salary and
> benefits, then is little justification for a gratuity. A waiter,
for
> example, might only receive an hourly wage of $3-4 since the
> restaurant assumes tips will subsidize the remainder of the
hourly
> wage.
>
> So, does anyone know from a friend or relative working now in
that
> capacity what these slot attendants are paid hourly? Plus the
> supervisor who oversees the payoff? Frankly, I'm less likely to
tip
> if they are making a good hourly rate. I'd rather throw an extra
$5
> to the maid who really needs it.
>
> So, an important question - are hand-pay staff "fully" salaried,
or
> are gratuities assumed as part of their compensation?
>
I have read more than one time that Las Vegas service workers are the
highest paid in the nation. I think it is safe to say that Las Vegas
has more bartenders and cocktail waitresses making $100,000+ per year
than any other city in the country. The last time I saw the union
bartenders wage in print was maybe 7 or eight years ago. It was
right at $13.00 per hour then. I don't know what it is now, but it
is nothing compared to the tips they take in on a shift. A cocktail
waitress can easily deliver 500 drinks on a shift. If she averages a
dollar a drink (some people tip more, some tip less, some don't tip)
she's raking in some major dough. I'm talking about the resorts on
the strip. Downtown has to be a lower scale but they are not
starving.
Then you've got the really sick stuff going on. I read recently, on
one of the poker blogs I follow, a story about Antonio Esfandiari and
his party at one of the resort bottle clubs. He ordered a bottle of
something that cost like $5,000. Kobe Bryant, at the next table, not
to be outdone, ordered two bottles of the same thing. The two
parties involved got into a bottle buying war and spent $50,000
between them. It got even sicker as Antonio's party tipped the
waitress/private bartender (or whatever she was) $6,000.
By the way, Antonio charges $10,000 to take you on a night of club
hopping in Las Vegas.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bdhabm" <bdhabm@...> wrote: