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What the dumbest play you've witnessed that worked?

Motor City Casino, NSUD (gone now), guy held a lone ace
and popped a royal.

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Dumbest play I have ever witnessed:

One evening at Four Queens playing the 10/7 DB $.25 progressive, I saw a player agonize over what to keep in a hand that should have been thrown away. She kept the highest card which was a nine---and drew the other three nines!

- Larry in Ohio.

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Motor City Casino, NSUD (gone now), guy held a lone ace
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- Brian in MI

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My personal favorite "dumbest play that worked" occurred at the El
Cortez many years ago. I was playing at a bank of the then abundant
Down Town Deuces. Next to me was a ploppie lady who was being
instructed, by ploppie husband, on the hold for each dealt hand. I
found his advice to range from absurd to hilarious.

The hand that she was dealt which finally caused me to leave the
vicinity, consisted of three deuces, an ace and a four. After a
great deal of discussion, and much angst, the husband finally
advised her to keep the three deuces together with ace, "because
maybe she would draw the fifth ace".

That's exactly what happened too! FIVE ACES, four of which were
deuces! {(O:

~Babe~ (In snowy Illinois)

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Marksalot300@... wrote:

Motor City Casino, NSUD (gone now), guy held a lone ace
and popped a royal.
- Brian in MI

I saw the exact same thing at the Mohegan Sun in
Connecticut. Could it be the same couple???

Dan (in sunny Florida)

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--- jackessiebabe <jackessiebabe@yahoo.com> wrote:

My personal favorite "dumbest play that worked"
occurred at the El
Cortez many years ago. I was playing at a bank of
the then abundant
Down Town Deuces. Next to me was a ploppie lady who
was being
instructed, by ploppie husband, on the hold for each
dealt hand. I
found his advice to range from absurd to hilarious.

The hand that she was dealt which finally caused me
to leave the
vicinity, consisted of three deuces, an ace and a
four. After a
great deal of discussion, and much angst, the
husband finally
advised her to keep the three deuces together with
ace, "because
maybe she would draw the fifth ace".

That's exactly what happened too! FIVE ACES, four of
which were
deuces! {(O:

~Babe~ (In snowy Illinois)

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Possibly it was a reprise by the same couple. After all, it worked the
first time, didn't it? {(O:

Babe (wishing that I was in Nevada but would settle for sunny Florida!)

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Dan Elmore <zelmo41@...> wrote:

I saw the exact same thing at the Mohegan Sun in
Connecticut. Could it be the same couple???

Dan (in sunny Florida)

I was playing FPDW at the western several years ago and noticed the guy
behind me on a DDB. When he was dealt a total trash hand he would hold
23, 24, 34 if they were available. I had a good laugh about it. Then
I heard a commotion behind me and turned to see that he held 34 and
caught 333.

I was playing FPDW at the western several years ago and noticed the

guy

behind me on a DDB. When he was dealt a total trash hand he would

hold

23, 24, 34 if they were available. I had a good laugh about it.

Then

I heard a commotion behind me and turned to see that he held 34 and
caught 333.

They would be correct holds for some versions of OEJs and wait till
quick quads comes out in May, then 23 and 34 suited are quite often the
correct holds for DDB.

Dick

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

The dumbest play I ever saw was in blackjack. I think it was at the Showboat in Atlantic city.
     Some guy split faces, everyone at the table groaned, and he pulled two ace's on top of them.
   
  Ned C.
  The Wild Joker

I was playing FPDW at the western several years ago and noticed the

guy

behind me on a DDB. When he was dealt a total trash hand he would

hold

23, 24, 34 if they were available. I had a good laugh about it.

Then

I heard a commotion behind me and turned to see that he held 34 and
caught 333.

They would be correct holds for some versions of OEJs and wait till
quick quads comes out in May, then 23 and 34 suited are quite often the
correct holds for DDB.

Dick

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Ned wrote: The dumbest play I ever saw was in blackjack. I think it was
at the Showboat in Atlantic city.
     Some guy split faces, everyone at the table groaned, and he pulled
two ace's on top of them.

Your story would have been more interesting if at this point the guy
decided to double down on his hard elevens!

There can be some subtle merit to such a play. If somebody at the table
is REALLY bugging you, and you have a small bet out this time, making a
play such as this will likely drive them from the table shrieking! Then
your life will have improved at a minor cost.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com

worked?

   The dumbest play I ever saw was in blackjack. I think it was at the

Showboat in Atlantic city.

     Some guy split faces, everyone at the table groaned, and he pulled

two ace's on top of them.

Not necessarily dumb. You can split paint at a true count of +5 or higher
against a five or six. More meaningful when you're keeping a side count of
aces. However, you better have a good idea of how keen the floor man and pit
boss are, and where they're at when you do this type of move.
                           Nudge

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From: "The Wild Joker"
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: What's the dumbest play you've witnessed that

I don't watch people play much, so my own mistakes would have to
qualify. On a 2 pair or better Joker's Wild progressive at Harvey's,
I had two to a straight flush with no gaps in one suit and 3 to a
straight flush with 2 gaps in another suit. I counted the 3 to a
straight flush as 3 to a flush and made the correct play, based on
that, of keeping the two to a straight flush and ended up with a
straight flush. And when Arizona Charlie's had a $1 Odyssey 4-way
full pay Kings or Better Joker's Wild game, the only mistake I noticed
myself making was keeping king, jack, 9 of hearts over a pair of 9s
and catching a straight flush on one line. My dream is to hit a royal
on a mistake, but I don't think I ever have. A friend of mine was
playing a promotion on the bar at the Frontier. She was on an 8-coin
machine and was supposed to be playing 5 coins. On one hand, she
played 6 coins and held ATs, making a royal after making 2 mistakes on
the same hand.

speaking of DDB I was at Mohegan Sun in Ct. a couple of months ago and a woman was dealt Four Aces with a Nine and Held all five cards!!!!

I was playing FPDW at the western several years ago and noticed the

guy

behind me on a DDB. When he was dealt a total trash hand he would

hold

23, 24, 34 if they were available. I had a good laugh about it.

Then

I heard a commotion behind me and turned to see that he held 34 and
caught 333.

They would be correct holds for some versions of OEJs and wait till
quick quads comes out in May, then 23 and 34 suited are quite often the
correct holds for DDB.

Dick

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mroejacks <rgmustain@aol.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

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.......My dream is to hit a royal on a mistake, but I don't think I
ever have...............

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <madameguyon@...> wrote:

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I have. A few years ago, while playing 10/7DB, I was dealt A/K/Q/J,
each high card in a different suit. Stupidly, I pitched the K/Q/J. As
I watched them whiff away, I started to mutter, Oh, Sh**......just as
the rest of the royal family joined the diamond ace!

~Babe~

Someone in this thread mentioned that their dream is to hit a royal
flush on a mistake. That actually happens a lot.

In a game like 10/7 DDB on a hand like 'AKQ7'5, the correct play is to
hold the four-flush, but a lot of not-so-knowledgeable folks just hold
the three-card-royal. One time in 1,081 that fills in. In the same game,
on hands like 'AK7' 43, the correct play is the three-card-flush rather
than the two-card royal. In games where flushes return 6 for 1 (like
better versions of JoB and DDB), from 'AKT4'J and similar hands, it's
right to hold the four-flush. Many people "error" on that and end up
connecting.

There was a thread here recently about someone who preferred holding K
over 'KT'. Knowledge people here correctly pointed out that it's
frequently a close play and sometimes one way is preferred and sometimes
the other, but when 'KT' is incorrectly held, once in 16,215 times you
get a royal.

In DDB, on the hand AQJ'63', the correct play is QJ. Many players hold
the A by itself. Although drawing four perfect cards is a real long
shot, it happens. In all sorts of non-wild games, when players get dealt
an unsuited QJ and "nothing else", they hold one of the high cards
rather than both. This can lead to a royal.

Inside straights with no high cards are held in most games except those
where you get 2-for-1 for two pair. Many folks toss these hands away.
This happens enough that even the (at best) 383,000 to 1 odds against
receiving a royal on the redeal are sometimes beaten.

In all versions of Deuces Wild when the royal pays 4,000, on a dealt
wild-royal containing exactly one deuce, the correct play is to keep all
five cards. Sometimes players toss the deuce and the odds are only
46-to-1 against their filling in the royal. This must have happened
thousands of times.

Most of the mistakes listed here wouldn't be called "really dumb" unless
the player making the mistake was at least an intermediate player. They
would be called "sub-optimal", and less-than-expert players make these
kinds of errors all of the time (and we ALL are less-than-expert at most
things in life.) But all of these errors lead to extra royals some of
the time.

There's a price for these extra royals in that overall you are losing
more than is necessary. So for the person who dreams of a royal on a
mistake, I say be careful what you wish for.

Bob Dancer

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Sat next to a guy at Caesars AC who did the same thing. A split second after he hit the draw button he realized what he had done and shouted, "I'm playing the wrong game in my head!"

siona@siona.org

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At 09:29 AM 02/05/08, you wrote:

speaking of DDB I was at Mohegan Sun in Ct. a couple of months ago and a woman was dealt Four Aces with a Nine and Held all five cards!!!!

>
> I was playing FPDW at the western several years ago and noticed

the

guy
> behind me on a DDB. When he was dealt a total trash hand he

would

hold
> 23, 24, 34 if they were available. I had a good laugh about it.
Then
> I heard a commotion behind me and turned to see that he held 34

and

> caught 333.

They would be correct holds for some versions of OEJs and wait till
quick quads comes out in May, then 23 and 34 suited are quite often

the

correct holds for DDB.

Dick

This guy was unconcerned about whether the cards were suited or
not. Suited or unsuited, he held them.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@> wrote: