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Take note of myth #3
I had heard rumors of this right after the election but didn't want
to say anything until I was sure. Unlike those on this forum that
kneel at the throne of the main stream press...
Also the evangelical turnout in 2004 was statistically the same as
2000. I suppose the Theocracy ruled by King George will not be able
to impose mandatory wendsday night bible study and sunday morning
church attendance as law. This should give some comfort to our
liberal friends.

What Really Happened?:
Survey Results Debunk the Myths of 2004 Election
JIM MCLAUGHLIN JOHN MCLAUGHLIN
TIMES-DISPATCH GUEST COLUMNIST
Wednesday, November 24, 2004

Washington. The theories from liberals and the old media as to why
John Kerry lost the presidential election reconfirm that they just
don't understand the values and priorities of middle-class America.
While they seem to believe that most Americans who voted for
President Bush are idiots, religious zealots, or both, the results
from our post-election survey show the American people gave President
Bush a clear victory for practical and common-sense reasons. They
voted for George W. Bush because they trusted his character and were
more in agreement with him on the two most important issues of the
day: fighting the war on terror and improving the economy.

In spite of what liberals and the media may say, the voters made an
educated and rational decision in giving President Bush a clear
victory on Election Day.

Myth #1: The American people don't like George W. Bush or his
policies.

Fact: A clear majority of voters (54 percent) approves of the job
Bush has done as President.

Ironically, President Bush's favorable rating was lower than his job
approval rating. This means people voted for Bush because they
believed he was doing a good job and agreed with him on the most
important issues of the day, which were keeping America safe from
terror and improving the economy.

Myth #2: American voters didn't vote for Bush; they were voting
against Kerry, and didn't want to change horses during a time of war.

Fact: 83 percent of Bush voters said they were voting for George W.
Bush; while only 11 percent said they were voting against John Kerry.
The leading responses as to why Americans voted for Bush were because
they felt he was doing a good job and they agreed with him on the
issues.

In contrast, only 52 percent of Kerry voters were voting for John
Kerry and 42 percent said they were voting against Bush.

Myth #3: George W. Bush won only because of gay marriage.

Fact: Less than 2 percent said gay marriage was the most important
issue in deciding their vote for President. Terrorism/war in Iraq (38
percent) and economic issues (26 percent) were the most important
issues to voters. Nearly two-thirds of the voters said either
terrorism/war or economic issues were the most important in deciding
their vote. In fact, gay marriage was the least important issue among
voters in deciding their vote for President. Overall, 12 percent
mentioned a moral issue as being the most important in deciding their
vote.

Myth #4: John Kerry beat George W. Bush in the debates.

Fact: By a 50-percent-to-47-percent margin, voters were more likely
to agree with President Bush on the issues in the debates.

While the liberal media and the national Democrats seemed to be
scoring the debates on style points (and on a scale biased against
the President in the first place), the American people were more
concerned about the issues and substance, and said they were more
likely to agree with Bush on those issues.

Myth #5: George W. Bush lost moderate Republicans because he was too
extreme.

Fact: Bush beat John Kerry among Republicans 92 percent to 8 percent.
There was virtually no such thing as a Kerry Republican in this
election. Bush received 85 percent of the moderate Republican vote.

Myth #6: Okay, George W. Bush was too extreme for women.

Fact: Bush tied John Kerry among women, and he won decisively among
men. There remains a marriage gap, as Bush does significantly better
among married voters. In addition, Bush had a clear advantage among
married women over Kerry.

Myth #7: Conservative ideology hurts George W. Bush and Republicans.

Fact: The conservative-issue philosophy is the biggest strength of
the Republican Party.

Self-described conservatives (40 percent) outnumbered liberals (22
percent) by nearly a 2-1 margin, and those conservatives voted
overwhelmingly for George W. Bush. Moderates accounted for 34 percent
of the electorate. Bush's advantage among conservatives clearly
helped propel him to victory.

Myth #8: All the undecided voters will go for John Kerry.

Fact: George W. Bush received a large share of the undecided voters.
Bush received the majority of the vote from early deciders, and
shattered the hypothesis that undecided voters would overwhelmingly
break against an incumbent President by garnering a large share of
late deciders.

Myth #9: The American people know the Bush tax cuts hurt the economy.

Fact: According to CNN's exit polls, by a 40-percent-to-33-percent
margin, voters believe the Bush tax cuts were good for the economy
over those who said they were bad for the economy.

Myth #10: Americans like John Kerry's economic policies better than
George W. Bush's.

Fact: Kerry's class-warfare strategy backfired, and voters agreed
more with George W. Bush when it came to the economy.

While Kerry won with households earning less than $20,000 a year, he
lost decisively among middle-class households earning over $20,000 a
year. Whenever a politician such as Kerry talks about raising taxes,
even when he says it will affect only the wealthy, middle-class
Americans hold onto their wallets.

Myth #11: Americans oppose the war in Iraq, and they don't believe
the war in Iraq has made them safer.

Fact: Americans believe the war in Iraq is making them safer here at
home. In CNN's exit poll, by 50 percent to 46 percent, voters
approved of the President's decision to go to war in Iraq, and 54
percent believed the war in Iraq is keeping us safer here at home.

Myth #12: George W. Bush's pro-life position hurts him politically.

Fact: Among single-issue abortion voters, those who said abortion was
the most important issue in deciding their vote for President, Bush
won overwhelmingly 85 percent to 15 percent.

Myth #13: George W. Bush can't compete with John Kerry and the
Democrats when it comes to the Latino vote.

Fact: Bush received 42 percent of the Latino vote according to the
CNN exit poll.

Myth #14: Self-proclaimed Catholic John Kerry will overwhelmingly win
the Catholic vote over George W. Bush.

Fact: Bush won among Catholics, 51 percent to 49 percent.

Jim and John McLaughlin are founders of McLaughlin & Associates, a
public opinion and survey research company based in New York and
Washington.

The results from our post-election survey show the American people
gave President Bush a clear victory for practical and common-sense
reasons. They voted for George W. Bush because they trusted his
character and were more in agreement with him on the two most
important issues of the day: fighting the war on terror and improving
the economy.

OK liberals (and fat boy-mouth Mikey Moore): READ IT AND
WEEP!!!!!!!!!!!! And if there's any other proclamations from anyone
here that just won't accept this, you have the freedom and option of
taking the next flight to ground zero with the honor of following in
the footsteps of your protesting suicidal maniac hero from 2 weeks
ago.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:

What Really Happened?:
Survey Results Debunk the Myths of 2004 Election
JIM MCLAUGHLIN JOHN MCLAUGHLIN
TIMES-DISPATCH GUEST COLUMNIST
Wednesday, November 24, 2004

Just got back from Reno. Cold and snow!!
There is just so much her to discuss.
I could tear this moron marine post up the same way he has done
everything that I have done but I have lost enthusiasm. At least he
picked a world class newspaper to quote!! I assume that this is out
of that bi-partisan rag the Richmond Post-Dispatch? The former
capitol of the Confederacy. They even got their percentages wrong
but why get bogged down with facts, you guys never have before. Gore
won the popular vote in 2000 but I didn't attempt to make that an
issue. I also see we have a new poster big chief nookie-wampum, by
the read of that post, tha old chief has been spending too much time
with the fire-water. Either that or just getting the old jollies
posting glory-days nude photos of herself on Yahoo. Either that or
the chief is a guy posing as an old broad to talk sex with men???
Hmmmmmmm!! Hey chief, the conservatives kicked your people's butts a
couple hundred years ago.
All in all, it's been fun hanging around the shallow end of the gene
pool, but you guys are just like old dogs. No new tricks. If the
morine wants to talk about terrorists controlling oil, I would have
to accept that Iraq was a terrorist threat which it wasn't in the
minds of men who know how to think for themselves. You guys can high-
five each other until the mad cows come home as far as I'm
concerned. I've wasted too much of my valuable time trying to talk
truth to republicans, a language that they refuse to understand.

>
> What Really Happened?:
> Survey Results Debunk the Myths of 2004 Election
> JIM MCLAUGHLIN JOHN MCLAUGHLIN
> TIMES-DISPATCH GUEST COLUMNIST
> Wednesday, November 24, 2004
>
The results from our post-election survey show the American people
gave President Bush a clear victory for practical and common-sense
reasons. They voted for George W. Bush because they trusted his
character and were more in agreement with him on the two most
important issues of the day: fighting the war on terror and

improving

the economy.

OK liberals (and fat boy-mouth Mikey Moore): READ IT AND
WEEP!!!!!!!!!!!! And if there's any other proclamations from

anyone

here that just won't accept this, you have the freedom and option

of

taking the next flight to ground zero with the honor of following

in

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:
the footsteps of your protesting suicidal maniac hero from 2 weeks
ago.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "three2theroyal"
<three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

Gore

won the popular vote in 2000 but I didn't attempt to make that an
issue.

I wonder....Will the liberals EVER get over that? HE LOST THE
ELECTION ACCORDING TO THE REGS IN OUR CONSTITUTION! If popular vote
meant ANYTHING, it meant that Gore was dumb about how he campaigned.
And can you just imagine how that passive nobody of a vice president
under the king of immorality would have reacted as President to 9-
11??? Things happen for a reason. In this case, it's called survival
of the US.

We're going to Reno/Lake Tahoe Fri. morning to ski, and there'll be
no video poker play. Can you just IMAGINE THAT Dick!? A mini-vacation
that DOES NOT INCLUDE VIDEO POKER PLAY.....AND TO A GAMBLING TOWN TO
BOOT!! HA! Wishin' for the good 'ol days, aren't you.....

Well, Good Luck, Deadhead. It would be a shame if you
broke a leg, even worse if you ran into a tree. Or
would it?

Reno is a great place. I'm sure everyone will like
you there, just as you are admired elsewhere.

Geo.

???

> We're going to Reno/Lake Tahoe Fri. morning to

ski,

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--- deadin7 <deadin7@yahoo.com> wrote:

and there'll be
no video poker play. Can you just IMAGINE THAT
Dick!? A mini-vacation
that DOES NOT INCLUDE VIDEO POKER PLAY.....AND TO A
GAMBLING TOWN TO
BOOT!! HA! Wishin' for the good 'ol days, aren't
you.....

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Well, Good Luck, Deadhead. It would be a shame if you
broke a leg, even worse if you ran into a tree. Or
would it?

....Or 'accidentally' ran down a sissy liberal who was still
wandering around aimlessly after the election.

Reno is a great place. I'm sure everyone will like
you there, just as you are admired elsewhere.

Thanks.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, g sang <gsang12000@y...> wrote:

--- deadin7 <deadin7@y...> wrote:

> > We're going to Reno/Lake Tahoe Fri. morning to
ski,
> and there'll be
> no video poker play. Can you just IMAGINE THAT
> Dick!? A mini-vacation
> that DOES NOT INCLUDE VIDEO POKER PLAY.....AND TO A
> GAMBLING TOWN TO
> BOOT!! HA! Wishin' for the good 'ol days, aren't
> you.....
>
>
>
>

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, g sang
<gsang12000@y...> wrote:

> Well, Good Luck, Deadhead. It would be a shame if
you
> broke a leg, even worse if you ran into a tree.
Or
> would it?

....Or 'accidentally' ran down a sissy liberal who
was still
wandering around aimlessly after the election.
>
> Reno is a great place. I'm sure everyone will
like
> you there, just as you are admired elsewhere.

Thanks.
++++++++++++++++++++

Well, Rob, I see you are having a little trouble
getting over the euphoria of single-handedly winning
the recent election. Try to calm down a bit.

In our last discussion we talked about your agitation
over a few social conditions that upset you. You
remember, don't you? Sure you do. If you need to talk
to me, or any other of the doctors here at the Mayo
Clinic, please don't hesitate to call us.

If necessary, I can schedule another appointment for
you to visit us again. I know you hate to come up
here to the cold country. Too many Indians, you say,
but perhaps we could boost your lithium and Prozac Rx
just a little.

I'll be waiting to hear from you. We all get a real
kick out of your visits.

And remember, everything will be fine, just tell the
truth, relax when you can, and try not to let world,
and all the other crazies who live in it, get you
down.

Dr. Geo

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--- deadin7 <deadin7@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- deadin7 <deadin7@y...> wrote:
>
> > > We're going to Reno/Lake Tahoe Fri. morning to
> ski,
> > and there'll be
> > no video poker play. Can you just IMAGINE THAT
> > Dick!? A mini-vacation
> > that DOES NOT INCLUDE VIDEO POKER PLAY.....AND
TO A
> > GAMBLING TOWN TO
> > BOOT!! HA! Wishin' for the good 'ol days, aren't
> > you.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today!
> http://my.yahoo.com

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Your post on a day in the life of a republican was excellent but i never saw the orirignal - can you repost it or private it to me -thanks

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From: "three2theroyal" <three2theroyal@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FREEvpFREE] Re: What really happened
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:11:48 -0000

Just got back from Reno. Cold and snow!!
There is just so much her to discuss.
I could tear this moron marine post up the same way he has done
everything that I have done but I have lost enthusiasm. At least he
picked a world class newspaper to quote!! I assume that this is out
of that bi-partisan rag the Richmond Post-Dispatch? The former
capitol of the Confederacy. They even got their percentages wrong
but why get bogged down with facts, you guys never have before. Gore
won the popular vote in 2000 but I didn't attempt to make that an
issue. I also see we have a new poster big chief nookie-wampum, by
the read of that post, tha old chief has been spending too much time
with the fire-water. Either that or just getting the old jollies
posting glory-days nude photos of herself on Yahoo. Either that or
the chief is a guy posing as an old broad to talk sex with men???
Hmmmmmmm!! Hey chief, the conservatives kicked your people's butts a
couple hundred years ago.
All in all, it's been fun hanging around the shallow end of the gene
pool, but you guys are just like old dogs. No new tricks. If the
morine wants to talk about terrorists controlling oil, I would have
to accept that Iraq was a terrorist threat which it wasn't in the
minds of men who know how to think for themselves. You guys can high-
five each other until the mad cows come home as far as I'm
concerned. I've wasted too much of my valuable time trying to talk
truth to republicans, a language that they refuse to understand.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deadin7" <deadin7@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tghysel" <tghysel@y...> wrote:
> >
> > What Really Happened?:
> > Survey Results Debunk the Myths of 2004 Election
> > JIM MCLAUGHLIN JOHN MCLAUGHLIN
> > TIMES-DISPATCH GUEST COLUMNIST
> > Wednesday, November 24, 2004
> >
> The results from our post-election survey show the American people
> gave President Bush a clear victory for practical and common-sense
> reasons. They voted for George W. Bush because they trusted his
> character and were more in agreement with him on the two most
> important issues of the day: fighting the war on terror and
improving
> the economy.
>
> OK liberals (and fat boy-mouth Mikey Moore): READ IT AND
> WEEP!!!!!!!!!!!! And if there's any other proclamations from
anyone
> here that just won't accept this, you have the freedom and option
of
> taking the next flight to ground zero with the honor of following
in
> the footsteps of your protesting suicidal maniac hero from 2 weeks
> ago.

"big chief nookie-wampum"? Why you big poo poo head! I double-triple
dare you to say that again!

Are you in the fucking third grade? I could see from a couple of your
posts that you were as intelligent as a sack of hammers but I didn't
see that you were completely retarded. You're not only stupid enough
to be in a union, you're dumb enough to be the shop steward.

And I love the racist comments that you Democraps spew. Hate to break
it to you but "chief" is like fire"chief" not like Sitting
Bull "chief." BTW, oh brilliant one, the picture is Dr. Laura which
circulated all over the internet about five years ago. It's called a
joke. Of course you need an IQ above winter ambient temperature.......

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "three2theroyal"
<three2theroyal@y...> wrote:

I also see we have a new poster big chief nookie-wampum, by
the read of that post, tha old chief has been spending too much

time with the fire-water. Either that or just getting the old jollies

posting glory-days nude photos of herself on Yahoo. Either that or
the chief is a guy posing as an old broad to talk sex with men???
Hmmmmmmm!! Hey chief, the conservatives kicked your people's butts

a couple hundred years ago.

Profile states "longshoreperson", how was I supposed to know that
you wanted to be a "fireperson" when you grew up. OH yeah, about the
photo.... Maybe I'm not brilliant enough to know or care who Dr.
Lara is but if you think that's funny, well, that about sums it up.
Nice F-bomb, you and Cheney have the same vocabulary. Oh yeah, I've
used it, but only in retaliation. Racist, I don't thinks so, that
would be realist. I can't believe that you see humor in that....what
a dope.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "chiefvrwc" <chiefvrwc@c...>
wrote:

"big chief nookie-wampum"? Why you big poo poo head! I double-

triple

dare you to say that again!

Are you in the fucking third grade? I could see from a couple of

your

posts that you were as intelligent as a sack of hammers but I

didn't

see that you were completely retarded. You're not only stupid

enough

to be in a union, you're dumb enough to be the shop steward.

And I love the racist comments that you Democraps spew. Hate to

break

it to you but "chief" is like fire"chief" not like Sitting
Bull "chief." BTW, oh brilliant one, the picture is Dr. Laura

which

circulated all over the internet about five years ago. It's called

a

joke. Of course you need an IQ above winter ambient

temperature.......

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "three2theroyal"
<three2theroyal@y...> wrote:
>
> I also see we have a new poster big chief nookie-wampum, by
> the read of that post, tha old chief has been spending too much
time with the fire-water. Either that or just getting the old

jollies

> posting glory-days nude photos of herself on Yahoo. Either that

or

> the chief is a guy posing as an old broad to talk sex with

men???

> Hmmmmmmm!! Hey chief, the conservatives kicked your people's

butts

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a couple hundred years ago.