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What are the odds ?

Bob Dancer is absolutely correct when he wrote "Doing these after-the-fact calculations is
meaningless."

It's what I call 'selective sampling'. If I look at all my plays over a year ( or several years) I can find certain oddities. Of course there are oddities on every hand , as Bob mentioned. There will be 'paying oddities'.

For example, early in my vp careerm back when the LVA used to give you the free roll of coins at 4 Queens, I had a sequence of 3 of a kind, 4 of a kind, 4 of a kind, 3 of a kind.

The odds of that particular sequence ( 10/7 DB) is 1/14 * 1/420 * 1/420 * 1/14 ( approximately) or about 1 in 34.5 Million. To make it a valid statistic, I need to specify what the event is and how many samples I'm going to take. By saying I hit a 1 in 34.5 million shot, I'm being misleading. Also, in the 20 years of video poker since then I have never had that sequence again. Have I play 34.5 million hands ( or 138 million hands, depending on you define the interval)? Probably not but I have played enough to make that occurrence not all that unusual.

I have a theory ( as yet untested) that any sufficiently large sample of hands will produce at least one unexpected occurrence of a hand type. I will define 'large sample' as 5000 hands or more and ' unexpected occurrence ' as a hand type being more than 2 sigma away from the expected value. One of these days I will test that theory.

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Bob Dancer is absolutely correct when he wrote "Doing these after-the-
fact calculations is meaningless."

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, greeklandjohnny@... wrote:

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"Meaningless" to whom? I suppose that to those who only wish to read
posts which are devoted to the pure math of VP, they are meaningless.

Most members of this forum are aware that past VP results are totally
useless in predicting future VP events. We really don't need it drummed
into our heads. Especially by those who apparently feel that there is
no place on the board for anecdotal posts.

There are some among us who read the posts on vpFREE for entertainment
as well as education. I can't imagine why even the most ardent math
devotee would object to this. If you are not interested in certain
types of messages, just don't read them!

As Brian so aptly put it, "meaningless is in the eye of the beholder".
To this beholder, posts are NOT meaningless if they amuse some of the
readers, some of the time.

~Babe~