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A recent post on the Atlantic City board reports
that a player got a $5 royal at the Taj and then
moved up to $25 9-6 jacks and hit another royal.
While the paper work for the $100,000 was being
completed he hit another $25 royal on the
adjacent machine.

The Taj responded by downgrading the $25 9-6
jacks to 8/5.

I know I should just look at a couple web sites and could prob find my answer but I am lazy LOL

What should the the paytable read for NSUD and what would the actually machine game name be for the 99.7% versions

GOOF IN wisconsin

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I know I should just look at a couple web sites and could prob find my

answer but I am lazy LOL

What should the the paytable read for NSUD and what would the actually

machine game name be for the 99.7% versions

NSUD paytable is available right on the vpFREE home page, the group that you
are already a member of. On the home page, click on links, then paytables,
the vpFREE's paytable. But, since you are lazy, NLOL, on the right of the
paytable under 5 coins there will be a series of numbers printed vertically
in descending order, highest to lowest ranking hand. Most probably , on the
screen, the actual name of this game will read " D-E-U-C-E-S
W-I-L-D". Hope this helps.
                                       Nudge

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From: " DJ GOOF" <lraney@charter.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Noob Question...

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DJ GOOF wrote:

> I know I should just look at a couple web sites and could prob
> find my answer but I am lazy LOL
>
> What should the the paytable read for NSUD and what would the
> actually machine game name be for the 99.7% versions

nudge replied:

NSUD paytable is available right on the vpFREE home page, the group
that you are already a member of. On the home page, click on links,
then paytables, the vpFREE's paytable. But, since you are lazy,
NLOL, on the right of the paytable under 5 coins there will be a
series of numbers printed vertically in descending order, highest to
lowest ranking hand. Most probably , on the screen, the actual name
of this game will read " D-E-U-C-E-S W-I-L-D". Hope this helps.

Fortunately Nudge, in his notoriously dry and frequently
misinterpreted wit, didn't offer to sound that last gem out for us.
As he suggests, casinos make no effort to differentiate the best
paytables from the worst in the face plate/screen names.

I'm often as "lazy" as you, particularly in the odd-ball hours that
the three of us are browsing here. A direct link to the vpFREE
paytable summary is:
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/CDER.htm

The 99.73% variant is listed as:
1-2-3-4-4-10-16-25-200-800 ... 99.73% - NSUD

These are, of course, one coin equivalent payouts for the full pay
values (multiple by 5 for a 5 coin machine). Actual single coin pays
(and anything less than a "max coin" wager) will actually reflect a RF
payout of something akin to 300 per coin wagered and typically only
advance to 800 with 5 coins wagered (4000 payout).

Unfortunately for those of us out on the East Coast, the intrepid soul
who introduced Deuces to Atlantic City apparently was from Denver.
(check out the paytable listing for that reference ;). You guys out
in the heartland surprisingly fare much better in that regard (leaving
my wife one more reason to long for our native Midwest since Deuces is
her true joy).

For the sake of a "noob", GOOF, I'll note that vp is notoriously
rampant with obscure acronyms -- but shorthand references come in very
handy vs. spieling out a bunch of paytable numbers to refer to a game.

The "NSUD" at the end of the vpFREE reference stands for "Not So Ugly
Deuces".

By way of explanation, at one time the two most prevalent Deuces
paytables were the "Full Pay (FP) 100.76% version and a 98.91% version
referred alternately as Illinois or Airport(LV) Deuces, where they
frequently pop up. As you might expect, those in the know turned
their nose up at the latter, muttering "Ugly" under their breath.
Ugly Deuces soon became the more common reference to the 98.91% variant.

Apparently, seeing the "Ugly" machines sitting idle, some casino
apparently decided to compromise in favor of the player and nudged up
the SF/5K pays, yielding a much more attractive theo 99.72%. Skip
Hughes (a fellow self-admitted "grumpy old man"; I recently betrayed
my own age spots here) coined the NSUD moniker for this improvement on
the less attractive version.

Of course, paraphrasing, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Many
back here in the east wish that Denver dude had actually been raised
in the civil environs of Chicago (hah -- in my book a kinder, gentler
version of New York ;).

- Harry

(returning back to bed before the alarm buzzes in 15 min. so that the
wife hopefully isn't aware I've been "prowling" again)

I did actually find the paytable on the VPREE site before receiving any replies though I could not find the deuces wild name I knew it was deuces something. Thanks for your reply and happy holidays.

and since it was such a nice and wonderful reply I'll just not post anymore questions since you were so helpful and nice.

back too lurk mode
good day

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----- Original Message -----
  From: nudge51
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Noob Question...

  From: " DJ GOOF" <lraney@charter.net>
  Subject: [vpFREE] Noob Question...

  > I know I should just look at a couple web sites and could prob find my
  answer but I am lazy LOL
  >
  > What should the the paytable read for NSUD and what would the actually
  machine game name be for the 99.7% versions

  NSUD paytable is available right on the vpFREE home page, the group that you
  are already a member of. On the home page, click on links, then paytables,
  the vpFREE's paytable. But, since you are lazy, NLOL, on the right of the
  paytable under 5 coins there will be a series of numbers printed vertically
  in descending order, highest to lowest ranking hand. Most probably , on the
  screen, the actual name of this game will read " D-E-U-C-E-S
  W-I-L-D". Hope this helps.
                                         Nudge

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Thanks harry for the through reply

Sorry Nudge for my previous post didn't relaize the dry wit took it the wrong way sorry bought that.

GOOF

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Harry Porter
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 4:03 AM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Noob Question...

  DJ GOOF wrote:
  > > I know I should just look at a couple web sites and could prob
  > > find my answer but I am lazy LOL
  > >
  > > What should the the paytable read for NSUD and what would the
  > > actually machine game name be for the 99.7% versions

  nudge replied:
  > NSUD paytable is available right on the vpFREE home page, the group
  > that you are already a member of. On the home page, click on links,
  > then paytables, the vpFREE's paytable. But, since you are lazy,
  > NLOL, on the right of the paytable under 5 coins there will be a
  > series of numbers printed vertically in descending order, highest to
  > lowest ranking hand. Most probably , on the screen, the actual name
  > of this game will read " D-E-U-C-E-S W-I-L-D". Hope this helps.

  Fortunately Nudge, in his notoriously dry and frequently
  misinterpreted wit, didn't offer to sound that last gem out for us.
  As he suggests, casinos make no effort to differentiate the best
  paytables from the worst in the face plate/screen names.

  I'm often as "lazy" as you, particularly in the odd-ball hours that
  the three of us are browsing here. A direct link to the vpFREE
  paytable summary is:
  http://members.cox.net/vpfree/CDER.htm

  The 99.73% variant is listed as:
  1-2-3-4-4-10-16-25-200-800 ... 99.73% - NSUD

  These are, of course, one coin equivalent payouts for the full pay
  values (multiple by 5 for a 5 coin machine). Actual single coin pays
  (and anything less than a "max coin" wager) will actually reflect a RF
  payout of something akin to 300 per coin wagered and typically only
  advance to 800 with 5 coins wagered (4000 payout).

  Unfortunately for those of us out on the East Coast, the intrepid soul
  who introduced Deuces to Atlantic City apparently was from Denver.
  (check out the paytable listing for that reference ;). You guys out
  in the heartland surprisingly fare much better in that regard (leaving
  my wife one more reason to long for our native Midwest since Deuces is
  her true joy).

  For the sake of a "noob", GOOF, I'll note that vp is notoriously
  rampant with obscure acronyms -- but shorthand references come in very
  handy vs. spieling out a bunch of paytable numbers to refer to a game.

  The "NSUD" at the end of the vpFREE reference stands for "Not So Ugly
  Deuces".

  By way of explanation, at one time the two most prevalent Deuces
  paytables were the "Full Pay (FP) 100.76% version and a 98.91% version
  referred alternately as Illinois or Airport(LV) Deuces, where they
  frequently pop up. As you might expect, those in the know turned
  their nose up at the latter, muttering "Ugly" under their breath.
  Ugly Deuces soon became the more common reference to the 98.91% variant.

  Apparently, seeing the "Ugly" machines sitting idle, some casino
  apparently decided to compromise in favor of the player and nudged up
  the SF/5K pays, yielding a much more attractive theo 99.72%. Skip
  Hughes (a fellow self-admitted "grumpy old man"; I recently betrayed
  my own age spots here) coined the NSUD moniker for this improvement on
  the less attractive version.

  Of course, paraphrasing, ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Many
  back here in the east wish that Denver dude had actually been raised
  in the civil environs of Chicago (hah -- in my book a kinder, gentler
  version of New York ;).

  - Harry

  (returning back to bed before the alarm buzzes in 15 min. so that the
  wife hopefully isn't aware I've been "prowling" again)

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Well, thank goodness they downgraded the paytables. How dare players
think that just because they wager $125 a hand they are entitled to a
house edge of only .46%! Don't you people realise how much casinos
are struggling to make ends meet? Casinos in Las Vegas have been
forced to change payouts on Blackjack to 6 to 5. Please stop trying
to use your brain in the casino. If you can't do that, then try your
best to be unlucky.

I hope that the Atlantic City Taj Mahal is able to survive. If we
players don't start getting stupider, soon all the casinos in the
world will be gone!

Replies, especially sarcastic, appreciated.

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A recent post on the Atlantic City board reports
that a player got a $5 royal at the Taj and then
moved up to $25 9-6 jacks and hit another royal.
While the paper work for the $100,000 was being
completed he hit another $25 royal on the
adjacent machine.

The Taj responded by downgrading the $25 9-6
jacks to 8/5.