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[vpmail2] Re: Independant hosts - good?

#1

A friend wrote to me: <<Most independents only bother with really big players, but I understand that this is slowly changing. >>

That's why I am looking for mid-level players who have used these, either successfully or otherwise - to see if it is sometimes a good option for someone other than big players.

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#2

Another comment from an experienced player:

<<The downside to using the freelance host is, once the high roller is checked in at the selected property, he almost always must use an in-house host to take care of any special needs. This can create resentment on the part of the in-house host(s), as the player is not "coded" to them--therefore they do not receive any credit for the high roller's play. In-house hosts do not like freelance hosts, and are not happy when their property does business with them!

Wonder if there might be "repercussions" for someone who uses an independent, and then tries to use a "regular" host at the same property? No way to be sure, I suppose. >>

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________________________________________
Jean $¢ott - "FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
This new book (autographed) and other
   frugal products are now available at my
   new Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
   E-mail address is queenofcomps@cox.net.

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#3

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "queenofcomps" <queenofcomps@...>
wrote:

Another comment from an experienced player:

<<The downside to using the freelance host is, once the high roller

is checked in at the selected property, he almost always must use an
in-house host to take care of any special needs. This can create
resentment on the part of the in-house host(s), as the player is
not "coded" to them--therefore they do not receive any credit for the
high roller's play. In-house hosts do not like freelance hosts, and
are not happy when their property does business with them!

Wonder if there might be "repercussions" for someone who uses an

independent, and then tries to use a "regular" host at the same
property? No way to be sure, I suppose. >>

________________________________________
Jean $¢ott - "FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
This new book (autographed) and other
   frugal products are now available at my
   new Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
   E-mail address is queenofcomps@...

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We previously used ValetNoir, and are low to mid-level players
(Diamond at HET). At first, they were good since we had no casino
history and they could get us rooms in casinos that we hadn't visited
before (like Caesars LV). Eventually, we had a casino history, and
found that on-site hosts could do more for us. The only problem was
getting rid of Valet Noir. Takes multiple letters and months to get
recoded from ValetNoir to a local host, and it has to be done casino
by casino. It's a real pain, and I'm not sure I'm done yet.

Ken

#4

I've had one experience with independent host 3 or more years ago.
It was about a year after Casino Monte Lago opened out by Lake Las
Vegas. A host I had known contacted me saying she was now a
independent and mentioned a few strip properties she worked out of.
At the time I only played at NYNY on the strip and had zero interest
in the rest but if she could set me up at Casino Monte Lago I'd be
interested.

So, my advantage became being able to send in a independent and let
them sell their goods! Casino Monte Lago had no rooms and that's
what I needed.

I hope I'm wrong but, I've long believed they are very slowly,
trying to phase host out. Marketing offers keep getting more fine
tuned, host year over year have less and less power. So, why not
hire impendent host, who only get paid IF you can bring players
in. The high end hotels will always have to have host on hand.
Again, I hope I'm wrong.

My Independent host now works for Harrah's marketing, she had 3
mouths to feed and needed benefits.

Best Regards,
Lolly