Your arguments here are illogical.
I haven't been arguing. I asked you to document your
assertion (which if untrue is very irresponsible) that:
"Dancer has taken the position in his column and his
recent posts that you MUST use penalty cards to be
considered successful."
You cited the following:
"One of the ways I stay in the top 5% is to concentrate on learning
the games perfectly --- "
For me, I use penalty cards to help me stay at that level. Can you
do it another way? Of course. If you're at that level and want to
explain how you do it, I'm sure that this forum would love to hear
what you have to say."
This says that he ranks in the top 5% of players because
of his penalty card expertise, and he also says there are
players in the top 5% who don't use a penalty card strategy.
There's nothing more I can add that can make it any clearer.
You've made it very clear:
Your references directly contradict your assertion, and
you haven't even addressed being successful (which
was your stated standard) as opposed to being in the
top 5%.
I cannot phathom why you would choose to
take this position. Your inability to understand a "tongue in cheek"
statement ("Can you do it another way? Of course.") does not change
the fact that it was clearly meant to reiterate that he doesn't believe
there are any other ways
Wanna bet?
Appended below is an email exchange that I've just had
with Bob Dancer. Here's a relevant excerpt:
"Jean Scott, takes another approach. She and Brad play at a strong
non-penalty-card level, and do not consider themselves video poker
experts --- as least she didn't last time she spoke to me on the
subject. She is, however, exceptional at networking, working promotions,
and the comp system. Far better than me at these things, although I'm
not a total slouch at these things. I have never seen one of her tax
returns, but I consider her a successful video poker player. And I suspect
she considers me one as well. Even though our skills are different."
(If you're at that level and want to explain
how you do it, I'm sure that this forum would love to hear what you
have to say.").
I don't claim to be at any particular level.
Only if I see Dancer posting a remark like ... Using penalty cards
makes little difference in the success of any VP player ... will I
change my interpretation of his statements. Do you really believe he
would ever make such a statement?
I said in the post you're replying to: "I don't think Dancer believes
or has ever said what you asserted."
Note, I have no problem with Dancer having the opinion that you
MUST use penalty cards to be successful. I just happen to disagree
with that position.
Disagree with him all you like, but don't misrepresent him.
Dick
vpFREE Administrator
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On 22 Nov 2005 at 15:07, rgmustain wrote:
From: "Bob Dancer" <bobdancer@cox.net>
To: "'vpFREE Administrator'" <vp_free@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: PRIVATE
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:51:34 -0800
No problem. Please consider posting this on vpFREE as well.
To be in the top few percent of players, you need to stand apart
in some respect. I use mastery of games --- including penalty cards ---
as my "admission key" into the top few percent. This is a technique
that fits into my strengths and interests. And it works for me. Jean
Scott, takes another approach. She and Brad play at a strong
non-penalty-card level, and do not consider themselves video poker
experts --- as least she didn't last time she spoke to me on the subject.
She is, however, exceptional at networking, working promotions, and the
comp system. Far better than me at these things, although I'm not a total
slouch at these things. I have never seen one of her tax returns, but I
consider her a successful video poker player. And I suspect she considers
me one as well. Even though our skills are different. There is no unique
right way to do it. But doing it exactly like most others do it is asking for
an average result.
Bob Dancer
For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.
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From: vpFREE Administrator [mailto:vp_f…@…com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:15 PM
To: bobdancer@cox.net
Subject: PRIVATE
Appended below is vpFREE Message # 51819 which is being discussed
on FREEvpFREE.
I would be very interested in having you comment on the accuracy of
this excerpt:
"Dancer has taken the position in his column and his recent posts that
you MUST use penalty cards to be considered successful."
And, I'd appreciate having your permission to share your comment with
FREEvpFREE ...
Thanks,
vpFREE Administrator
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To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
From: "mroejacks" <rgmustain@att.net>
Date: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: Saving pennies - Bob Dancer's "Flow Chart" for Penalty
Cards
Harry, I believe you are missing the point of the debate. Dancer has
taken the position in his column and his recent posts that you MUST use
penalty cards to be considered successful. Jw776655 is presenting
arguments that counter Dancers' claim. Jw776655 has not claimed, so
far, that NOT using penalty cards is required to be successful. Just that
they may not work to your advantage. You can't agree with both
"perspectives" as they are opposing views ... unless you are running
for political office 
I agree with jw776655 even though I often use penalty cards myself. I
use them to keep the game more interesting but only to the extent that
they are easy to diagnose and do not disrupt my play. I think this is
pretty much what you said in your post, however, it does not address
the main thrust of the debate (penalty cards MUST be used to be
successful).
Dick
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