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From: pesach kremen <royalflush2222@yahoo.com>
Date sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:56:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Check out Casino smoking ban controversy continues to smolder
Use of the smoking ban is a convenient excuse for business
losses. In both California and New York sales tax revenue from
restaurants went up when the smoking bans came. Small slot places
such as gas stations were never major playing areas and are very
subject to the discretionary income of the players. Today that
discretionary income is down and as a result play is down. It is
easy to make excuses for falling income. It is absurd to think
that profits are so important that it is OK to risk the health of
the public and employees who work in an establishment to allow a
minority to indulge in a habit that negatively affects others.
Over the years even with Gambler's Bonus and other promotions,
the ambience of the filling station video poker hasn't been much,
and if those who play there have less money with which to play,
business will be down. It is also true that as fuel prices rise,
trips to the gas station are less frequent and thus there are
less chances a person might stop to play. Also, the transit
service frequency on many routes has increased thus there are
less players between buses as well. Finally, there are more
options today than ever for snacks that may have the public
purchasing their snacks (and thus wondering over to the video
poker machines) at gas stations. The bottom line has many
sources; it is convenient to say (especially when an industry
pushes these false statements) that the loss of income is due the
smoking ban; it is harder to do the research and come up with the
real reasons for the decrease in Herbst slot play.
tralfamidorgooglycrackers wrote:
> I am not surprised. Herbst Gaming is in technical default on their
> debt and their excuse is the smoking ban here in Nevada (re: slot
> route operations). Source? The Las Vegas Review Journal.
>
> Don't you just love living in the land of so-called freedom?
>
>
>>>Bulletin: You never had TOTAL freedom. Nor SHOULD anyone who lives
in any way other than Tom Hanks-Castaway style. In other words, to
live in human society is to acknowledge that some behaviors are
inappropraite. Included are those behaviors that cause active harm to
others, and those behaviors that interfere with others' peace of mind
or enjoyment, and/or are patently offensive.
>>>In your imaginary land of "real" freedom, I would be able to stand
up from the VP machine next to you, whip it out, and piss into the
empty beer cup that sits between our machines. You object to this?
You are offended? What?? Are you interfering with my freedom? Don't I
have a RIGHT to take a leak? Isn't this AMERICA you commie pinko
fascist bastard? If you don't like it, you shouldn't have come here
in the first place!!!!!
>>>The next logical step, of course, in this scenario, would be
offended VP players lobbying for casinos to install restrooms (rather
than just providing beer cups), and making their use mandatory, then
the casinos crying piteously that they are going broke because of
diminished business from gamblers who resent having to use the
restroom rather than the handy beer cups.
>>>Why should you or I have to walk forty feet to a restroom when
it's our God-given right to use the handy beer cup instead? And
anybody who objects to that is obviously a trouble-making whining
(note to all: if you want to justify your own offensive behavior,
make sure that you characterize any complaints about that behavior
as "whining") tree-hugging liberal activist snot who DUZINT CARE
about our HOOMAN RITES. Oh, yeah, and them people don't like nookular power, neither.