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vpFREE Posts on the value of hosts.

Below is just a small part of Harry's view. I guess it has to do with
a recent Bob Dancer column:

"Listen, no doubt a paint a rosy picture of the potential in a host
relationship. I'd suggest at least half of hosts don't really get
what they're job is about, many so enamoured by the alure of catering
to big players that they neglect the bread and butter players.

But the best hosts are to kill for! They can enrich your play in ways
that make a casino an unlikely ally -- a win-win situation. This
isn't to be found in all casinos, but you don't have a shot if you
don't make an effort. And, if you find that there's not a satisfying
host relationship to be found, perhaps it's time to consider
alternative play venues.- Harry"

Well said and well-meaning, but here's the truth--Casino hosts are not
only of no value....a player can and will get far more 'for free'
without using them than with. And the easiest way of screwing up your
future freebies is by talking to your 'host' thereby flagging your
existence. It is a solid fact that the offers generated thru Marketing
Dept. formulas are FAR more lucrative and will be sent out to you for
many months longer than chatting with your host. The easiest way to
kill your casino status is by talking with a host. The only reason
many players do it are first because of misinformation blabbed by the
famous names (who do so only to show the casinos they get paid by that
they are continuing to work for them) and secondly, because it makes
them somehow feel 'special' or 'important' to be addressed as a "VIP"
when showing up. I play at most major casinos in Nevada, I get
basically what I want when I want it for not all that much play
really, and it's all because I know how to manipulate them into
thinking they're manipulating me. Currently I know 2 hosts in the
state, and I'm working on eliminating their contact. Losers use hosts.
Period.

If I were inclined to be charitable, Rob, I might reply that "your
milage may vary".

I have no regrets about my interactions with my strongest hosts and am
secure that they've added to my play experience when I measure it
against what I might have derived had I relied upon general casino
marketing alone.

But we all know just how misguided "losers" like myself are, right?

- H.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:

If I were inclined to be charitable, Rob, I might reply that "your
milage may vary".
I have no regrets about my interactions with my strongest hosts and am
secure that they've added to my play experience when I measure it
against what I might have derived had I relied upon general casino
marketing alone.
But we all know just how misguided "losers" like myself are, right?

That's just it Harry. You have no regrets because you don't have that
which you purport to be measuring your EXTRAORDINARY hosts against. The
entire idea od hosts is not well understood--even by the largest of
heads on vpFREE. Listen to Jean Scott and one would encript that your
host is there to make you comfortable, hand out the freebies, set you
up with shows & free meals, and gleefully say "I hope you win thousands
this visit". The truth? They want you to go home broke....as well as
happy, for the sole reason that you'll come back and do it again ASAP.

I haven't any clear idea as to if you are really a 'loser' or not, but
based on the amount of play you advertise about in AC along with your
highly anticipatory trips to LV, I think I know. 'Misguided' is a whole
lot more clear.