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#1

It doesn't appear to me that anyone is questioning how easy or
difficult the strategy cards are to use. What is in question is the
accuracy. If you stand behind your work, please defend your work by
answering the questions put to you. All I see so far is someone
screaming it's unfair of you to bring my mistakes to light. Doesn't
seem like a person with a lot of confidence in their work to me.

gilbert wrote:
>>Aren't we in America? Ahhh... Freedom of Speech!

Some people may think Bob is putting Linda down and some people may
think that maybe Bob is creating a good window of opportunity for
Linda to announce something like "Version 2 of Linda's VP Strategy is
now available and is now more accurate than ever before!" :<<

Linda Boyd Wrote:

Did you see the long list of gibberish that Bob submitted? It would

take hours to even decipher his "comments" plus it would keep me from
doing my work--guess that's the purpose.

The best ways to determine which strategy cards work during

play/practice is to use them. Really don't even know if Bob wrote
"his" cards himself and don't want to criticize the hard work of
somebody else. Seems that when I suggest people determine how well
strategy cards work Bob gets upset and defensive. If "Bob's" cards
work for you--they're easy to use, you can find every hand quickly,
and they tell you the correct holds--you should use them. In the
meantime, could you or Bob or anybody else please tell me when Dean
Zamzow or Jim Wolf ran an algorithm check on "Bob's" work? Without
such a check there's really nothing to discuss. Linda

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Boyd" <maggie2194@...> wrote:

Linda Boyd
Author: "The Video Poker Edge"
amazon.com/major bookstores
"Boyd's Eye View": Free Forum
http://www.midwestgamingandtravel.com
Best Software:www.videopokerpractice.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#2

But what is Best? easy to use or most accurate? I have read many of
Bob Dancers works and also Linda Boyds book and posted about both
previously. I have found errors both have made and notation and
useage difficulties from both in their charts and articles.

Easy to use in a casino wins out with me.
I prefer the Tom Ski VPSM tables listed from the vpFree home page..
link is here for JOB...
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/ST_JoB.htm
The reason is I can easily determine the difference and risk in
possible holds, as sometimes I do like to gamble. (I didnt say I
play counter to exact play sometimes on this board did I???)More in
other games than JOB but the point still stands. I also can identify
benchmark hands easily such as pairs, flushes etc on the table and
find the hand in question quickly, which sometimes charts are more
time consuming to apply.

In summation I would say for expert strategy Bob Dancer is the source
to use and for a recreational player a very good source book is Linda
Boyd. Maybe how easy to use and for what level of player is the
question here. Let the reader and user decide. Two alternatives,
thanks to both.

Lets get some Royals!!!!
Beachstu

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@...> wrote:

It doesn't appear to me that anyone is questioning how easy or
difficult the strategy cards are to use. What is in question is the
accuracy.

#3

I'd like to input a comment or two as I am really a video poker junkie
who's read everything from everyone and I believe they've all helped in
one way or another.

I'm a 41 yr. old retired female dentist (because of an accident that
hurt two fingers) and if I had my tools with me and met Mr. Dancer I'd
like to pull out his molars for how he's treating Ms. Boyd. That's
really what made me join just to say that. Who does he think he is
bashing a fellow author for her admirable efforts? I couldn't imagine
how his wife who's "in the kitchen" puts up with his nit-picking for
the sake of nit-picking. Gosh, I know video poker does strange things
to me at times, but is he on the losing streak from hell that's made
him attack her. The way he seems to put down women wouldn't surprise
me one bit if he is.

Linda, hang in there girl!

#4

Linda has claimed my comments are gibberish. Let me simplify things.

Anybody with her book, please look at page 70-71 and tell us how those
pages say to play the following hands. (all amounts are for to a 5-coin
dollar 9/6 Jacks or Better player)

  Jh Th 7c 5d 3s (I claim it says to hold the J only, with an
error of 21¢)
  Qd Td 7c 5s 3h (I claim it says to hold the Q only, with an
error of 14¢)
  Kd Td 7c 5s 3h (I claim it says to hold the K only, with an
error of 7¢)
  Kh Qs Jc Td Ts (I claim it says to hold TT, with an error of
24¢)
  Kd Qd 9d 5h 3c (I claim it says to hold KQ, with an error of
40¢)
  Ah Kh Qd Td 5c (I claim it says to hold AKQT, with an error of
21¢)
  Ah Kh Qs 5d 3c (I claim it says to hold KQ, with an error of
47¢) --- although her "exceptions" tell you the correct play once and
incorrect once, her "taboos" give you the wrong one. There is no
explanation on which is correct, and beginners certainly should not be
expected to know.)
  Ah Ks Jd Td 7d (I claim it says to hold AKJT, with an error of
3¢)
  Qh Jh 2d 3d 5d (I claim it says to hold 235, with an error of
45¢)
  
  There are numerous smaller errors pointed out in the earlier
post, but this list should be sufficient to convince everyone except
Linda, who is unwilling to acknowledge reality. These errors are all
large and not particularly rare. The first few of these examples have
thousands of similar hands making the same error. In the first example,
if the club had been an 9, 8, or 6, the size of the error would be a
little different, but it's still an error.

  If anyone finds this list to be gibberish, please let me know.
   
  Linda wrote in a different post: I would like to end this
discussion and get back to work.

  I respond: I don't blame you for wanting to end this discussion.
It's clearly embarrassing for you to acknowledge these errors. As soon
as you answer the questions put to you, we'll all let it go. On this
page is a list of 9 different types of errors --- none of them small. Go
ahead and tell us how your strategy says to play them.

  Go ahead and invite anyone else on vpFREE to find a strategy
error on the Level 4 Dancer/Daily 9/6 Jacks or Better strategy. Surely
you believe that Harry, Brian and several others are legitimate experts
(everyone else here does). None of them will be able to find an error.
But on your strategy, everyone who looks at the list shown here will be
able to see that there are numerous large errors.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com

#5

I'm a 41 yr. old retired female dentist (because of

an accident that
hurt two fingers) and if I had my tools with me and
met Mr. Dancer I'd
like to pull out his molars for how he's treating
Ms. Boyd. That's
really what made me join just to say that. Who does
he think he is
bashing a fellow author for her admirable efforts?
I couldn't imagine
how his wife who's "in the kitchen" puts up with his
nit-picking for
the sake of nit-picking.

You are KIDDING me right? Have you actually read
ANYTHING he has said??
I have in the past called Bob a few names after I
thought some of his posts were pompous but in this
case I must defend him.He has been quite straight
forward and has done nothing but point out what he
believes to be facts.
Can anyone dispute what he says? If you can, please
step forward and do so,it is quite obvious that Linda
cannot.
If anyone has gone over the line at all in what has
been said it has been Linda.

                       SteveB

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#6

Steve B wrote: Can anyone dispute what he says? If you can, please step
forward and do so,it is quite obvious that Linda cannot. If anyone has
gone over the line at all in what has
been said it has been Linda.

Justmarelv wrote to Linda: If you stand behind your work, please defend
your work by answering the questions put to you. All I see so far is
someone screaming it's unfair of you to bring my mistakes to light.
Doesn't seem like a person with a lot of confidence in their work to me.

Thank you both. To me this is all about accuracy or lack thereof. I'm
glad this is being understood by many people.

I found it amusing that Docbrune felt this thread proved I was
anti-feminist in some respect. Anyone witnessing the Dancer/Paymar
"debates" in the past can certainly affirm that I do not reserve my
criticisms for females.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com

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Of steve bork
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:26 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: vpFREE] Best Strategy Cards???

I'm a 41 yr. old retired female dentist (because of

an accident that
hurt two fingers) and if I had my tools with me and
met Mr. Dancer I'd
like to pull out his molars for how he's treating
Ms. Boyd. That's
really what made me join just to say that. Who does
he think he is
bashing a fellow author for her admirable efforts?
I couldn't imagine
how his wife who's "in the kitchen" puts up with his
nit-picking for
the sake of nit-picking.

You are KIDDING me right? Have you actually read
ANYTHING he has said??
I have in the past called Bob a few names after I
thought some of his posts were pompous but in this
case I must defend him.He has been quite straight
forward and has done nothing but point out what he
believes to be facts.

                       SteveB

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#7

For deuces wild, the wizard is probably the best expert strategy:
http://wizardofodds.com/deuceswild

If I remember correctly, at one time he found a mistake in Dancer's
expert strategy, but it was an extremely fractional error, something
only an expert player could appreciate. Or maybe it was Jazbo?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "beachstu" <beachstu@...> wrote:

In summation I would say for expert strategy Bob Dancer is the source
to use and for a recreational player a very good source book is Linda
Boyd. Maybe how easy to use and for what level of player is the
question here. Let the reader and user decide. Two alternatives,
thanks to both.

#8

If you've read me in the past, you know how much I hate it when some
moron brings a strategy card to a game. Because, if I'm playing it,
it's likely a very good play. All the strategy card does is bring
attention to the house that they're not going to make money off of
this particular customer, and that may lead to a further inquiry
destroying the profitable situation. OTOH, I'm totally in favor of
strategy cards which give up 1% or more in EV, but I would prefer you
not use them on the game anyway.

Now, as much as I've been critical of Bob in the past, Linda, his post
raises some concerns. 9-6 Jacks is one of the easier VP games to learn
(although it does amaze me that many people consider it rocket
science, but that's good news for the teachers, I guess), and you do
bill yourself as a professional. If Bob's assertions are correct and
not otherwise taken out of context, it's difficult to take your work
seriously. Saying his commentary is "gibberish" doesn't help your
position, nor does it clarify whether these holds, which are all big
errors, were actually published in your book.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

Linda has claimed my comments are gibberish. Let me simplify things.

Anybody with her book, please look at page 70-71 and tell us how those
pages say to play the following hands. (all amounts are for to a 5-coin
dollar 9/6 Jacks or Better player)

  Jh Th 7c 5d 3s (I claim it says to hold the J only, with an
error of 21¢)
  Qd Td 7c 5s 3h (I claim it says to hold the Q only, with an
error of 14¢)
  Kd Td 7c 5s 3h (I claim it says to hold the K only, with an
error of 7¢)
  Kh Qs Jc Td Ts (I claim it says to hold TT, with an error of
24¢)
  Kd Qd 9d 5h 3c (I claim it says to hold KQ, with an error of
40¢)
  Ah Kh Qd Td 5c (I claim it says to hold AKQT, with an error of
21¢)
  Ah Kh Qs 5d 3c (I claim it says to hold KQ, with an error of
47¢) --- although her "exceptions" tell you the correct play once and
incorrect once, her "taboos" give you the wrong one. There is no
explanation on which is correct, and beginners certainly should not be
expected to know.)
  Ah Ks Jd Td 7d (I claim it says to hold AKJT, with an error of
3¢)
  Qh Jh 2d 3d 5d (I claim it says to hold 235, with an error of
45¢)
  
  There are numerous smaller errors pointed out in the earlier
post, but this list should be sufficient to convince everyone except
Linda, who is unwilling to acknowledge reality. These errors are all
large and not particularly rare. The first few of these examples have
thousands of similar hands making the same error. In the first example,
if the club had been an 9, 8, or 6, the size of the error would be a
little different, but it's still an error.

  If anyone finds this list to be gibberish, please let me know.
   
  Linda wrote in a different post: I would like to end this
discussion and get back to work.

  I respond: I don't blame you for wanting to end this discussion.
It's clearly embarrassing for you to acknowledge these errors. As soon
as you answer the questions put to you, we'll all let it go. On this
page is a list of 9 different types of errors --- none of them small. Go
ahead and tell us how your strategy says to play them.

  Go ahead and invite anyone else on vpFREE to find a strategy
error on the Level 4 Dancer/Daily 9/6 Jacks or Better strategy. Surely
you believe that Harry, Brian and several others are legitimate experts
(everyone else here does). None of them will be able to find an error.
But on your strategy, everyone who looks at the list shown here will be
able to see that there are numerous large errors.

________________________________________________________________________

paladingaming.net

#9

Nightoftheiguana wrote: For deuces wild, the wizard is probably the best
expert strategy: http://wizardofodds.com/deuceswild

The Wizard and I are good friends. We have each discovered "appendix
level" corrections to the other one's list of hands that don't meet
normal rules. (such as Kh Qh 3c 5d 6s is played differently than Kh Qh
3c 5s 6s. My guess is that not one player in a thousand differentiates
between these two hands, even though both the Wizard and I list them.)

Deuces Wild (in most pay schedules) typically has hundreds of special
case hands that are exceptions to the standard rules. You cannot fit
these exceptions on a strategy card. You can create a list of the
exceptions and publish it (which both the Wizard and I have done), but
basically nobody plays Deuces Wild games perfectly.

Jacks or Better is a different animal entirely. There are 6 types of
penalty card situations (the exact count may vary slightly depending on
how you group the situations). These are easily covered on a strategy
card should you wish to. This is a game that hundreds of players know
perfectly. If you wish to see examples of them, they are visible in the
SHOW REPORT feature on the strategy page of Video Poker for Winners.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video poker
computer trainer ever invented, go to //www.videopokerforwinners.com

#10

Steve, you're falling into the exact trap Bob has intended with his
attacks. If I were to guess I would think Bob is losing sales and has
come here in an attempt to discredit Linda.

There is no way (other than a significant study that no one is ever
going to fund) to determine the REAL cost of one strategy over
another. The trade off is accuracy of the strategy vs. usability.
Anyone who puts together a strategy will made CHOICES that impact the
accuracy when attempting to make a strategy simpler. The exact
choices are simply one opinion vs. another. Neither can be said to be
right or wrong.

I could easily come on and attack the Dancer beginner strategies by
looking at his more advanced ones and arguing the every omission is
an ERROR. This is exactly what Bob is doing. I'm surprised you fell
for it.

The only reasonable way to compare strategies is to determine the
actual payback using said strategies and determine if that cost is
justifiable in leiu of the perceived simplicity. That trade-off will
be different for every individual. Those are the ONLY "facts" that
Bob could present and he has not done that. I would think Bob is
smart enough to understand that, so why didn't he do it? That is why
i think this is a personal attack.

Dick

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, steve bork <stevebork@...> wrote:

You are KIDDING me right? Have you actually read

ANYTHING he has said??
I have in the past called Bob a few names after I
thought some of his posts were pompous but in this
case I must defend him.He has been quite straight
forward and has done nothing but point out what he
believes to be facts.
Can anyone dispute what he says? If you can, please
step forward and do so,it is quite obvious that Linda
cannot.
If anyone has gone over the line at all in what has
been said it has been Linda.

#11

Regardless of who has the more accurate strategy cards, the only thing
that is certain is that Bob chooses vpFREE as his preferred method to
point out other peoples mistakes rather than contacting the person
committing the mistake directly. In my opinion, this is an immature
practice and unconscionable. Demanding an apology on behalf of others
is fascist in nature and although I'm glad Bob is looking out for all
of us, I find his methodology disturbing.

Just imagine how much better Bob would be received by this community
if he worked half as diligently on his personality as he does on his
video poker skills.

#12

Let's get back to the main subject. Bob has pointed out some error's
in Linda's strategy. Instead of calling each other names, Linda,
address the concerns that Bob has introduced. Either admit that you
erred or show why the plays in question as they are listed in your
strategy are correct. If you find an error in one of Bob's strategy,
post it. I'm sure Bob will thank you for finding the error and
correct it in his next edition.

Bob, you said in one of your posts:

'The Wizard and I are good friends. We have each discovered "appendix
level" corrections to the other one's list of hands that don't meet
normal rules. (such as Kh Qh 3c 5d 6s is played differently than Kh Qh
3c 5s 6s. My guess is that not one player in a thousand differentiates
between these two hands, even though both the Wizard and I list them.)

Isn't holding the Kh Qh the correct play in both of these hands? It's
not even close.

#13

I assume that you are suggesting that Linda take her time to justify
a controversy regarding her work, because that's exactly how you
would correct a mistake which you had made?

If that is the case, I'm still waiting to hear you make a retraction
of two of your posts. The first post that you published stated that
Harrah's "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupons were not listed on the
Harrah's website. The second post from you, corrected my post in
which I described a "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupon that I had received
from Harrahs. You then explained, in some detail, that what I had
received was a "Reel Rewards" coupon, rather than a CITM coupon. I
accepted what you had posted, and posted back thanking you for the
information. Though I did mention that my CITM coupon HAD been
posted on the top of my "offers" page, on Harrahs website, and that
the printing on top of coupon, clearly said CITM.

Then, guess what? I learned, from OTHER posters, that in some areas
of the country, CITM coupons WERE shown on the website, and also had
the same CITM designation that I orginally described.

Did this cause you to immediately post that you had made a mistake?
Not at all! What you DID post was a wimp-out explanation that you
were "only referring to promotions in Southern Nevada"

It certainly is much easier for someone to criticize the actions of
others, than to adher to the same lofty principles oneself.

~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@...> wrote:

It doesn't appear to me that anyone is questioning how easy or
difficult the strategy cards are to use. What is in question is the
accuracy. If you stand behind your work, please defend your work by
answering the questions put to you. All I see so far is someone
screaming it's unfair of you to bring my mistakes to light. Doesn't
seem like a person with a lot of confidence in their work to me.

#14

For your information, I never saw anything else regarding that issue.
I don't always go back and read everything posted while I'm away in
Vegas (just start reading new posts when I return). If I had seen a
mistake I'd made I would've owned up to it. Now, let me see if I can
make sense of what you're saying...

Not going back to find the exact posts you're referring to I'm pretty
sure I was specifically referring to the Reel Rewards vouchers that
come from Harrah's Rincon and some other areas (I believe New Orleans
and Ak-Chin also send these out). They are not called cash in the
mailbox, unless that has very recently changed. Cash in the mailbox
has for a long time been the bounceback cash vouchers sent out by the
SOUTHERN Nevada properties. These vouchers are basically your
"cashback" for the play you put in during a certain month (these are
not listed on the offers page).

Reel Rewards are incentive vouchers to get you into the casino. At
Rincon they are for periods of about one week (you normally get 4 for
the month at a certain amount). From Ak-Chin and Harrah's New Orleans
they are for a specified time period of about 2 months. These are an
OFFER, not cashback for previous play. These DO show up on the web site.

From Reno all I've seen is cash bonus coupons. Those also DO show up
on the website.

Now, what's really ridiculous here is that you would hold a grudge
against someone for trying to give you information based on personal
experience (I wasn't correcting you)! HET changes their system
continuously, so information posted may not always be current.

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On the otherhand, what Bob and Linda are discussing here are errors in PUBLISHED AND PAID FOR strategies! --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...> wrote:

I assume that you are suggesting that Linda take her time to justify
a controversy regarding her work, because that's exactly how you
would correct a mistake which you had made?

If that is the case, I'm still waiting to hear you make a retraction
of two of your posts. The first post that you published stated that
Harrah's "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupons were not listed on the
Harrah's website. The second post from you, corrected my post in
which I described a "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupon that I had received
from Harrahs. You then explained, in some detail, that what I had
received was a "Reel Rewards" coupon, rather than a CITM coupon. I
accepted what you had posted, and posted back thanking you for the
information. Though I did mention that my CITM coupon HAD been
posted on the top of my "offers" page, on Harrahs website, and that
the printing on top of coupon, clearly said CITM.

Then, guess what? I learned, from OTHER posters, that in some areas
of the country, CITM coupons WERE shown on the website, and also had
the same CITM designation that I orginally described.

Did this cause you to immediately post that you had made a mistake?
Not at all! What you DID post was a wimp-out explanation that you
were "only referring to promotions in Southern Nevada"

It certainly is much easier for someone to criticize the actions of
others, than to adher to the same lofty principles oneself.

~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@> wrote:

It doesn't appear to me that anyone is questioning how easy or
difficult the strategy cards are to use. What is in question is the
accuracy. If you stand behind your work, please defend your work by
answering the questions put to you. All I see so far is someone
screaming it's unfair of you to bring my mistakes to light. Doesn't
seem like a person with a lot of confidence in their work to me.

#15

BTW, Babe -- I am taking your post as a personal attack. What Bob is
trying to do here is not a personal attack against Linda - it's business.

I promise never to try to help you again. PROMISE. Feel free not to
read any more of my posts and I'll do the same for you.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@> wrote:
>
> I assume that you are suggesting that Linda take her time to justify
> a controversy regarding her work, because that's exactly how you
> would correct a mistake which you had made?
>
> If that is the case, I'm still waiting to hear you make a retraction
> of two of your posts. The first post that you published stated that
> Harrah's "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupons were not listed on the
> Harrah's website. The second post from you, corrected my post in
> which I described a "Cash-In-The-Mailbox" coupon that I had received
> from Harrahs. You then explained, in some detail, that what I had
> received was a "Reel Rewards" coupon, rather than a CITM coupon. I
> accepted what you had posted, and posted back thanking you for the
> information. Though I did mention that my CITM coupon HAD been
> posted on the top of my "offers" page, on Harrahs website, and that
> the printing on top of coupon, clearly said CITM.
>
> Then, guess what? I learned, from OTHER posters, that in some areas
> of the country, CITM coupons WERE shown on the website, and also had
> the same CITM designation that I orginally described.
>
> Did this cause you to immediately post that you had made a mistake?
> Not at all! What you DID post was a wimp-out explanation that you
> were "only referring to promotions in Southern Nevada"
>
> It certainly is much easier for someone to criticize the actions of
> others, than to adher to the same lofty principles oneself.
>
> ~Babe~
>
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@> wrote:
>
> It doesn't appear to me that anyone is questioning how easy or
> difficult the strategy cards are to use. What is in question is the
> accuracy. If you stand behind your work, please defend your work by
> answering the questions put to you. All I see so far is someone
> screaming it's unfair of you to bring my mistakes to light. Doesn't
> seem like a person with a lot of confidence in their work to me.
>

#16

For your information, I never saw anything else regarding that issue.
I don't always go back and read everything posted while I'm away in
Vegas (just start reading new posts when I return). If I had seen a
mistake I'd made I would've owned up to it. Now, let me see if I can
make sense of what you're saying...

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@...> wrote:

For YOUR information AND edification, I suggest that you review the
following posts: #74782, 74786, 74788, 74795, 74796, 74799, 74807, &
74812.

You'll see that you not only read the rebuttals to the information
you posted, but maintained that the information which you had
originally provided "only pertained to casinos in Southern Nevada".

If you re-read those posts, you'll see that I politely thanked you
for your "help", even though I knew that your information was most
likely INCORRRECT.

For your further information, I would never have brought this topic
up were it not for your "holier than thou" attitude towards
Linda Boyd!

If you can't take the heat, I suggest that you refrain from trying
to burn others!

~Babe~

#17

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@...> wrote:

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BTW, Babe -- I am taking your post as a personal attack.

====================================================
As you wish!

.........I promise never to try to help you again. PROMISE. Feel free
not to read any more of my posts and I'll do the same for you.

You've got a deal! I can live w/o your brand of "help" quite nicely,
thank you.

Well, since you're no longer reading my posts, I guess that you'll
miss me saying goodbyeeeeee.........

~Babe~

#18

Oh brother, you have way too much time on your hands and way too much
venom in your heart, Babe.

I honestly don't recall everything about that and I'm certainly not
going to go back and re-read every post. That's ridiculous.

I was obviously talking about Southern Nevada. I've detailed all of
the information I personally know about HET cash in the mailbox, if
something I said was wrong about a different area, excuse me for living.

Now I will sincerely ignore your posts. You obviously have a problem.
What are you, 12?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "justmarelv" <justmare111@> wrote:
For your information, I never saw anything else regarding that issue.
I don't always go back and read everything posted while I'm away in
Vegas (just start reading new posts when I return). If I had seen a
mistake I'd made I would've owned up to it. Now, let me see if I can
make sense of what you're saying...

For YOUR information AND edification, I suggest that you review the
following posts: #74782, 74786, 74788, 74795, 74796, 74799, 74807, &
74812.

You'll see that you not only read the rebuttals to the information
you posted, but maintained that the information which you had
originally provided "only pertained to casinos in Southern Nevada".

If you re-read those posts, you'll see that I politely thanked you
for your "help", even though I knew that your information was most
likely INCORRRECT.

For your further information, I would never have brought this topic
up were it not for your "holier than thou" attitude towards
Linda Boyd!

If you can't take the heat, I suggest that you refrain from trying
to burn others!

~Babe~

#19

Ebab888 wrote: Isn't holding the Kh Qh the correct play in both of these
hands? (Kh Qh 3c 5d 6s is played differently than Kh Qh 3c 5s 6s)
It's not even close.

On this particular post, the game was FPDW. In the first hand, played
for quarters, 'KQ' is better by 0.07¢. In the second hand, drawing five
new cards is better by 0.06¢. Each variation comes up every 108,290
hands on average. If you played a million hands a year, playing both of
the hands the same way will cost you slightly more than a half penny.

As I said, it's very close. There are a lot of these close decisions in
Deuces Wild games and I suspect that nobody in the world plays all of
the correctly, but none of these in 9/6 Jacks or Better.

Bob Dancer

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#20

Babe wrote to me, attacking about what she says are errors I made when I
wrote about Harrah's Cash=in=the=Mailbox.

Babe, you must be confusing me with someone else. I did not post
anything on the cash-in-the-mailbox thread. And that thread has nothing
to do with me believing that Linda's strategies are seriously flawed.

Bob Dancer

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