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VP versus SLOTS (? for Howard Stern)

#1

Yes. This has been published. There are actually machines that have larger
cycles than that. (Think about the feed rate to these jackpots. Per 1% feed
rate, the average jackpot for a quarter machine would be $375,000 over
reset.) As to VP this was going on in California. (Wall Street Journal did
an expose about three years ago.) This may have stopped with the change in
gambling laws in CA. I still would not play any machine from a manufacturer
I do not know. I do not know the manufacturers involved for VP but if you
should see a SEGA Robo Dealer for blackjack you should run as this game has
selectable hold percentage as a casino option. (Yes this is the same
company that makes Sonic the Hedgehog.) See Scobette's Victory at Video
Poker for more information on this. This selectable hold is also done on
these dis-honest VP.

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[Original Message]
From: fordscks <jason_c_vp@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/10/2004 11:13:33 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: VP versus SLOTS (? for Howard Stern)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:
"At VP you know the probabilities (Assuming an honest game each of
the 52 cards has to have an equal chance of appearing.). Except on
some Indian Reservations, this is the law."

Can you name me some Indian Reservations where this is happening?
Also, can you name the manufacturer of these machines. You can
either send me via my e-mail or post here.

"Example: The Wheel of Fortune game actually has 464 outcomes for
each of the three reels. Only 2 of those are the Wheel of Fortune
symbol on the first reel and one each on the second and third reel
thus the progressive on average will get hit about once every 50
million plays. There are 7 out of 464 on the third reel that will
get you a wheel spin."

Are we talking about the same game?
http://www.igtonline.com/megajackpots/new_games/wof.html The reason
I ask is I thought Nevada Gaming law has a limit on how long a
progressive cycle can be -- 50 million is a very long cycle. Are
you sure you have the right number of stops and symbols on each stop?

Thank you.

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#2

i play vp in socal. i have gotten and witnessed royals in socal so
some of the machines still have royals programmed in them. i've even
had some winning trips (w/o the royals). and i know the slot cards
work because i get free rooms, food, shows, tournaments, gifts,
birthday and anniversary offers, and cashback.

my question is does anyone have a link to a negative news report
about ca vp?

also, i question the accuracy of anything from or based upon the book
victory at video poker. i've read it. the vp strategies are in a
word wrong.

Frank

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:

As to VP this was going on in California. (Wall Street Journal did
an expose about three years ago.) This may have stopped with the

change in

gambling laws in CA. I still would not play any machine from a

manufacturer

I do not know. I do not know the manufacturers involved for VP but

if you

should see a SEGA Robo Dealer for blackjack you should run as this

game has

selectable hold percentage as a casino option. (Yes this is the same
company that makes Sonic the Hedgehog.) See Scobette's Victory at

Video Poker for more information on this. This selectable hold is
also done on these dis-honest VP.