There's scum in every line of work. I've met them from well-dressed &
well-spoken to the opposite end.
I doubt Quadzilla is advocating that we keep plays from amateurs as amateurs
don't spend enough time to burn anything out & aren't normally as good
technically. The fear here are the greedy ones who monopolize a play so that it gets
burned out quickly.
In any case, I agree with Quadzilla to a point. I don't mind posting or
commenting about low $/hr plays. It's the high $/hr plays that I won't post. In
most cases, amateurs won't play at this level due to bankroll & time requirements
& due to volatility. However, I do private email to those who have
contributed to the board. I feel this is the best way to avoid the lurkers who just want
something for nothing & who are the burnout artists. It's not a perfect
system but it works for me.
Meanwhile we should lighten up as many beginning players don't know what
we're talking about. When I first started, all I thought about were the % + & that
was the determinant of what to play. I didn't know how many hands/hr (hph) I
played & therefore couldn't translate that into $/hr. Have to admit, I'm still
fuzzy on hph for multi-lines.
In a message dated 12/29/2003 12:11:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:
<< Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:00:31 -0500
Quadzilla666 wrote ...
I have also noticed a level of contempt for pros (though not from
Tom) on this list. We are perceived as 'vultures' and somehow
scummy. So I guess if a play is killed and that hurts us, that
really doesn't matter. However, if viewed from our perspective, it
is very different. Suppose I came to your job and messed with your
ability to make a living just for shits and grins because it somehow
amuses me or I think that I am doing some people a favor?
Quadzilla, me posting a video poker play is way different that you coming to
my office and messing with my job. First of all, your job overlaps with the
hobby of millions of people and your 'office' is a pretty public place. I have
yet to see a group of video poker pros hanging outside my building saying " I
can't wait to get a shot some of those endless meetings and plant trips to
Kansas."
In the Midwest, I have seen at least 4 pretty good plays killed by the same
group of pros. This group had its base in the Western part of the US. There
was also a group of locals who were very heavy players but not professionals.
The local amateur players played these games for a good, long time. The pros
killed these 4 plays in less than two weeks each. Some of the plays lasted
less than a week once the pros hit town. Why are you against amateur players
sharing information but not against professional players beating a play to
death? The amateur players are the ones who give you the opportunity to make a
living. Without them playing the same games, none of your plays last. Sounds
like you should be thanking the people who share the info with other players.
Otherwise, your play can't survive.>>
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Subject: vp pro's view