-v; so what's Mandy doin thesa days. We will admit gamers (PC) are
jus 3rd oldest pros. These IRS troubles are small in compare.
Understand there's a W2-P in the works. CD
;-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Video Poker Vegas" <vpvegas@c...>
wrote:
Well, John, you are very convincing but my friend says that he is
going to
keep his $116,000 a year "profession" (with good insurance, a take
home car
and a great pension plan). He will join with Rastis and settle for
making $7
an hour, plus his cash back, comps, gas, RFB and clothing which we
get on
our half dozen or so trips to Vegas each year.(Friend says that he
will
re-consider his options again, in 4 years & 355 days when he can
retire with
an 80% lifetime pension (high 3 year salary/annual cost of living
raises).
Not bad for a guy who is even more dim witted than Rastis!
BTW, Rastis makes $30+ an hour officiating high school basketball
and
volleyball during the year. (Rastis also has a day job which pays
his bills
and supports his bad habits) Now I guess, one could say that
Rastis is a
professional referee since he is a sole proprietor (for IRS
purposes) and
has to file tax returns for this "business" income (which is really
a
hobby). So Rastis prefers to say he has a "hobby" that makes him a
little
coin. On the other hand, Rastis believes there are
some "professional"
referees running up and down the court, blowing their whistles,
just like he
does. For example, Bob Delaney (former NJ state trooper) makes
$250,000+ a
year working as an NBA referee. "Me thinks" that Bob is
a "professional"
referee. Rastis feels the same way about professional gamblers. He
has met
a few, including World Poker tour "professional T.J Cloutier who
lives in
the Dallas area. But somehow, Rastis just can't bring himself to
think of
video players who earn $30 an hour plus .25% cashback (or less),
promos,
drawings, free gas, free groceries, free clothing, free food, free
entertainment as "professionals" simply because they pocket a few
bucks
from participating in a hobby. So, John, you can have the last
word, since
Rastis now has the tired head. Nasty Rasti is going to recuse his
dumb old
self from any further discussion concerning big time VP "pros"
living high
off the hog, wearing their spiffy casino supplied clothing
while "couponing"
around Las Vegas!!
From: "John Kelly" <jwkelly@f...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Discussion about Pros
>
>
> Video Poker Vegas wrote:
> > Well, old Rastis is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but
his 4th
grade
> > math tells him that $1,500 a month amounts to $18,000 a year.
>
> Agreed on all accounts (sorry, couldn't resist).
>
> Mr. Kelly did not
> > say how many hours he played a week to make $18,000 a year.
>
> About 12 hrs/week for me, about 8 hrs/week total, 20 hours a week
total.
> Also, to repeat: this figure ($18,000) does not include cashback,
> promos, drawings, free tournaments (which are cash of sorts),
free gas,
> free groceries, free clothing, free food, free entertainment.
>
> If you factor all of these in, we currently earn about $30/hour.
Not
> quite as much as we do at our day jobs, but not bad for fun-n-
games. On
> the other hand:
>
> 1. I'm only playing the best plays. If I played more, I'd being
playing
> lesser plays and my hourly wage would decrease.
>
> 2. 12 hours/week is all I would really want to play. It's fun,
but it
> can get boring, frustrating, even depressing. My worst days at
work
> don't put me in as sour of a mood as does a miserable losing
streak. (Of
> course, my best days at VP are quite a bit better than my best
days at
> work!)
>
> 3. No health benefits, retirement, sense-of-accomplishment, etc.
made in
> this "job". Smokey, noisy work environment. No job security
either; all
> advantage plays could disappear on the whim of casino management
> (although I doubt they will). Salary is not guaranteed: if you're
> unlucky, you lose, period.
>
> Anyway, we digress. My point is/was: local advantage players can
make a
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----- Original Message -----
> lot more than $7/hour.
>
> John