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VP Machines ARE Programmed To Run In Few Hot & Many More Cold Cycles

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

Give it up, little dicky. Over and over again you're out-classed

and

made the fool of your own field. Trying to make yourself feel

better

about all the sense here is superficial and will be rendered

useless

just as soon as you read my reply. I sense you're geek-armor
weakening as we speak. Oh, can it EVER get any better than this?!!
When will we have the chance again to watch as little dicky wallows
away in self-sympathy?? And I though pulling the nerds' pants down

in

the girl's high school gym was the epic moment in my life!

> I see that Rob's "wordiness" continues.

Yup--by a professional writer to boot! The more I can lay on you

the

better the day....and night!

Oh, haven't you been sleeping well? That's too bad, I suppose having
your con exposed will do that. All you need to do is go get some help
and you'll feel much better.

>Did I mention that is a sure sign he has been rattled?

Kind of a wee bit too late to wear that comfy blankey to bed,

little

dicky. You've been spanked so hard MY HAND is red!

It's never too late for the truth. You should know that by now.

>Yup, poor Robbie, repeating the same insults over and over again.

Is

he this repetitive in real life?

And loving every repeat, because just as we used to kick the nerds
down when they tried so hard to get up, it's just as satisfying
now....even more so, as I get to watch a live nerd suffer over and
over again before my very eyes. Thank you God!

Notice the dramatic increase in words. A sure sign I called this one
correctly. Not only that, but he just repeated his standard BS again.
How sweet it is ...

>
> I bet Rob really like the one about buying property in Louisiana.

??? What are you making up now?

Try to keep up.

I'll
> wait and see if optdouble can respond, but don't count on it. He
claims to be a software engineer, yet, he doesn't understand
that "secondary programming" and a "second program" are two

entirely

different things. Secondary programming is ANY code inserted to
modify the behavior of the RNG.

Isn't that just like a nervous ranting geek to make believe he

knows

things someone else doesn't--

I think your shill has been uncovered, little man. Opt-shill goes on
about ALL sorts of special programming that would take lots of extra
memory. I guess he thinks IGT is in the business to lose money just
to provide special help to the casinos. He also failed to explain why
the NGC, which reviews every line of code, would somehow miss all of
this special programming.

and/or tries to correct someone with BS!
Where would this nerd be without his ability to 'set his record
straight' which he so neurotically needs to do every time someone
comes on and shows a tad bit of intelligence that goes beyond his
archaic knowledge base? How he must HURT inside.....

Yup, your shill sure is "intelligent", I'd think even you would have
been embarrassed by his ridiculous statements.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "optdouble" <mworcester@>

wrote:

> > Thanks, Rob. Finally a clear explanation that we can all
> > understand. Although we will be probably see a bunch of

replies

> > talking about how this is "illegal" and "wouldn't be

allowed".

>
> That's because it IS illegal ... not to mention, casinos have
nothing
> to gain. They already have the edge in almost all games. Why

would

> they risk losing their lucrative gambling business?

Blah blah blah---same old rant with the same old tune of geek-

denial

attached.

Looks like the facts did it again. Stopped Robbie cold.

> > Do
> > you really trust the casinos that much??? After minimally
> > complying with the regulations, you should expect them to try

and

> > take every dollar that they can in any way humanly possible.
>
> Well, first off, this would NOT be "minimally complying with the
> regulations", it would be breaking the law.

Which law---geek law?

NV law that doesn't allow machines to be modifed.

you've already been instructed on how the
contracts are written, you don't want a personal education class on
contract law, and you clearly couldn't live with yourself if you

ever

came to the understanding that what you believe in is not the way

it

is. Does the words 'little dicky's foolish' make any sense to you??

Still no contracts involved, LAFman. Just NGC regs. However, this is
an entirely different regulation (reg 5). The one that doesn't allow
casinos to change any programming in the machines without NGC
approval. Let's hear you lie your way of of this one.
  

I
> > mean, who do you think is contributing the money to build all

of

> > those huge casino hotels anyways....
>
> The players playing without an edge. Yup, the players who play
> roulette, craps, BJ, stud, etc.; the players crowding into the
poker rooms where the casinos takes a % of every pot; the players
hitting the slots; the clueless VP players. I think we're up to

about

99% of casino customers. Was this really supposed to be an
intelligent statement?

There it is again....it's "the other guys" who lose and not little
dicky or any of the 'gurus'. Ho-Hum.... So wordy, yet so nerdy....

So, you think these players all win? How do the casinos stay in
business?

> > So, basically a bunch of "advantage players" playing the same
> machine
> > more or less ensures that the number of Royal Flushes will be
LESS
> > than expected almost all of the time since the machine will not
be
> > making enough money to get into a mode where "hot cycle
> corrections"
> > are needed.

> Did I mention clueless?

I certainly have, many times, and you fit that bill like a tee.

Poor try Robbie. This guy's just another yahoo who believes the
machines are controlled externally. Even you know better than that.

> > In other words, enough idiot players would be needed to
> > make the required profit on the machine to ensure that enough
Royal Flushes could be "allowed".
>
> I wonder if this guy even understands that this is beyond

secondary

> programming. This would require throwing out the RNG altogether.

More evidence that you've never kept up with modern technology in
your own sorry field. Do you have to keep embarrassing me, as your
sponsor here??

Your repetitive words are getting more hollow all the time. Please
explain how the NGC code reviewers would miss all this extra code.

> > This would also suggest that somebody would be a COMPLETE IDIOT
to keep playing a machine after it just hit a Royal Flush,

correct?

> > Because the machine would surely be overcorrected after that
point, and would probably be starting a bunch of new cold cycles.
>
> So, I guess the two times I hit RFs within 15 minutes of each

other

> on the same machine is impossible. I'd better go back and check
those W2Gs and see if they are real.

You just proved another point. That machine was in a hot cycle that
was required to correct it's hold percentage upwards. Thank you.

After giving me a double RF? Yup. That's right. This machine pays
double on RFs. 4.4% of the total payout. You better head back to the
drawing board, your lies are easily dismissed.

> > So, if a machine was running really cold while you were on it,
> would you be more inclined to try the "special plays" on the

theory

that it might be getting ready for a "corrective hot cycle", or

would

you wait to do them after a machine starts to go hit small pays a
> couple of times after running cold for a while first?
>
> That land in Louisiana is still for sale. Never mind that the

gulf

is eroding several feet of it every day. As long as it's in a "hot"
> cycle I'm sure you'll be OK.

Now the dufus is a Geologist in addition to a geek! Can it possibly
get any funnier tonight?

If optdouble believes your con, he'd fall for anything. Maybe you can
sell him some of that land you bought last fall.

> > Also, it would stand to reason that correct "casino strategy"

for

> VP machines would be to take over a machine which has just busted
out somebody after they placed a decent amount of credits on it, in
the theory that they have used up a lot of the cold cycles, and the
machine is then theoretically nearer to a corrective hot cycle.

> I doubt that this is Robbie. Even he can see how idiotic this
sounds. Did I mention clueless?

Is that supposed to be a reply--or are you at a loss for words
again?? At least you didn't make me laugh here too!

18 words this time ... A new record for you. I made my points and you
looked foolish trying to refute the facts with nothing but idiotic
babbling. How sweet it is ...

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:

> > > > Of course you're rattled again, little dicky
> > >
> > > RIV. Pointing out your lies is quite fun.
> >
> > So you agree, you're very rattled and trying to make believe

it's

> > fun. i can live with that.
>
> No you can't, because you, more than anyone, know the frustration
> you feel every day as your read my posts.

I can live with that too! The more you post the more i come alive!
It's not often that geek-haters get to romp & stomp on them after
high school days are done. Again, thank you God!

Come on Robbie, grease that babbler. You haven't come up with a new
one in ages.

> And all you've 'proved' is you're a dork. And stupid. and blind.
> and
> > > one who works in a closed room of math models and geek-
> expressions.
> > And you're alone. Why, we all should only listen to you and

not

> > anyone else who says you're wrong, RIGHT?!! Now maybe you know
what
> a
> > true vp-blind clown is, RIGHT? RIGHT!
> >
> > > Didn't you mention "wordy" a bit ago? ... It's pretty obvious
> who's
> > > rattled here. Rob obviously choose not to respond to my

points

> > below because he knows he can't refute the facts. How sweet it
> is ...
> >
> > one problem with your obvious nervous reply....My words hit

home

> and cause you trouble every time--
>
> Yup, what hit home this time was your lack of words. Absolutely

no

> response to my factual statements.

But the facts are right there IN FRONT OF YOU, little dicky! You've
been made a fool of over and over and over. God bless the world!!!

More hollow sounding words as I continually provide references and
facts to refute all your lies. I hope you liked NGC regulation 5.

> which is the prime objective of my existence here. The more I
write, as a true writer and not a wannabee trying to 'belong' like
you, the better!

> Then why didn't Rob write something in response to my facts? Why
did he choose to just babble away instead? You be the the judge.

I AM the judge....and jury. And to you, I'm your executioner too!
Feel that knife called 'the truth'? Feel it going right thru your
make believe heart? (I say make believe because no human heart

could

EVER treat a wife as disrespectful as you've done)!

The wife babble again? You're not listening, son. You're making a
complete fool out of yourself. Try to catch on. After everyone sees
these babbles a few hundred times it has no effect. If you can't come
up with anything new, you are demonstrating a lack of creativity. Not
to mention that your con has already been exposed. I think your new
miidle name is very relevant here.

> > > I'll leave them here one more time to keep Robbie rattled.
> >
> > Is that suppose to clarify anything other than you've given up

on

> > this subject by not responding to anything?? When facing

defeat,

do it like a man instead of a weasel. C'mon....you're almost dead!
> Show some dignity before you go!
>
> RIV. The words "not responding to anything" is exactly what Rob
did. Rob's inner voice took this opportunity to point that out to
> everyone. How sweet it is ...

i've asked for you to show at least SOME dignity. I mean, I really
don't like stompiung on a dead man (just a hurtin' one!).

LMAO. Your words are dust. They've dried out and everyone can now see
what's behind them. A frustated bully who has met his match.

> Anyone doubt that all of these rants by Rob are really just his
> reflected self-image?

I do I do!!

A lone voice in the wilderness. How sweet it is ...

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> Give it up, little dicky. Over and over again you're out-classed
and
> made the fool of your own field. Trying to make yourself feel
better
> about all the sense here is superficial and will be rendered
useless
> just as soon as you read my reply. I sense you're geek-armor
> weakening as we speak. Oh, can it EVER get any better than

this?!!

> When will we have the chance again to watch as little dicky

wallows

> away in self-sympathy?? And I though pulling the nerds' pants

down

in
> the girl's high school gym was the epic moment in my life!
>
> > I see that Rob's "wordiness" continues.
>
> Yup--by a professional writer to boot! The more I can lay on you
the better the day....and night!

Oh, haven't you been sleeping well? That's too bad, I suppose

having your con exposed will do that. All you need to do is go get
some help and you'll feel much better.

I don't need sleep when I'm having THIS much fun! I could stay awake
forever if I was able to write you into the ground as often as I'm
doing tonight!!

> >Did I mention that is a sure sign he has been rattled?
>
> Kind of a wee bit too late to wear that comfy blankey to bed,
little dicky. You've been spanked so hard MY HAND is red!

It's never too late for the truth. You should know that by now.

Now you're speaking my language. Too late though. Both my hand and
your butt are RED!

> >Yup, poor Robbie, repeating the same insults over and over

again. Is he this repetitive in real life?

And loving every repeat, because just as we used to kick the nerds

down when they tried so hard to get up, it's just as satisfying
now....even more so, as I get to watch a live nerd suffer over and
over again before my very eyes. Thank you God!

Notice the dramatic increase in words. A sure sign I called this

one correctly. Not only that, but he just repeated his standard BS
again. How sweet it is ...

You're right--I'm really on a roll tonight and lovin every minute of
it! What a way to end a great day! Nerd-whacking!!

> > I bet Rob really like the one about buying property in

Louisiana.

>
> ??? What are you making up now?

Try to keep up.

With what--the whooping you're taking?

> I'll
> > wait and see if optdouble can respond, but don't count on it.

He

> claims to be a software engineer, yet, he doesn't understand
> that "secondary programming" and a "second program" are two
entirely
> different things. Secondary programming is ANY code inserted to
> modify the behavior of the RNG.

> Isn't that just like a nervous ranting geek to make believe he
knows things someone else doesn't--

I think your shill has been uncovered, little man. Opt-shill goes

on about ALL sorts of special programming that would take lots of
extra memory. I guess he thinks IGT is in the business to lose money
just to provide special help to the casinos. He also failed to
explain why the NGC, which reviews every line of code, would somehow
miss all of this special programming.

Yada yada yada on and on and on about his saving face. He just HAD to
get these words of geek-wisdom in or else he would toss and turn all
night long!

> and/or tries to correct someone with BS!
> Where would this nerd be without his ability to 'set his record
> straight' which he so neurotically needs to do every time someone
> comes on and shows a tad bit of intelligence that goes beyond his
> archaic knowledge base? How he must HURT inside.....

Yup, your shill sure is "intelligent", I'd think even you would

have been embarrassed by his ridiculous statements.

I don't really know what a 'shill' is, but I'm betting it's some sort
of imaginary thing having to do with gambling, since gambling
controls every aspect of your life.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > --- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "optdouble" <mworcester@>
wrote:
> > > Thanks, Rob. Finally a clear explanation that we can all
> > > understand. Although we will be probably see a bunch of
replies
> > > talking about how this is "illegal" and "wouldn't be
allowed".

> > That's because it IS illegal ... not to mention, casinos have
> nothing to gain. They already have the edge in almost all games.

Why would they risk losing their lucrative gambling business?

> Blah blah blah---same old rant with the same old tune of geek-
denial attached.

Looks like the facts did it again. Stopped Robbie cold.

Brrrrr....yup it's really cold here in Phoenix tonight! If little
dicky had any facts for a change I'd dance the jig. All I see is
whining like "gee, it's illegal because I don't do it" and "casinos
have nothing to gain because I don't get that part of it". Truly, a
weeny whiner!

> > > Do
> > > you really trust the casinos that much??? After minimally
> > > complying with the regulations, you should expect them to try
and
> > > take every dollar that they can in any way humanly possible.
> >
> > Well, first off, this would NOT be "minimally complying with

the

> > regulations", it would be breaking the law.
>
> Which law---geek law?

NV law that doesn't allow machines to be modifed.

That's exactly why they arrive in true form just as I've explained
with the facts a thousand times. What? Doesn't fit into little
dicky's pipeline mind? Must be wrong!! Geek-law is right and everyone
else is wrong!!

> you've already been instructed on how the
> contracts are written, you don't want a personal education class

on

> contract law, and you clearly couldn't live with yourself if you
ever
> came to the understanding that what you believe in is not the way
it
> is. Does the words 'little dicky's foolish' make any sense to

you??

Still no contracts involved, LAFman. Just NGC regs. However, this

is an entirely different regulation (reg 5). The one that doesn't
allow casinos to change any programming in the machines without NGC

approval. Let's hear you lie your way of of this one.

Right on cue! I've directed little dicky to look up more of the state
CONTRACT and he does EXACTLY as I tricked him into doing--flops out
another regulation from the CONTRACT. And this gets funnier. Then he
proceeds to step into it BIG TIME! He makes believe everyone against
his geek-logic is sayiung that the machines are changed after they
arrive at the casinos!! Can anyone possibly be more thick??
   

> I mean, who do you think is contributing the money to build all
of those huge casino hotels anyways....
> >
> > The players playing without an edge. Yup, the players who play
> > roulette, craps, BJ, stud, etc.; the players crowding into the
> poker rooms where the casinos takes a % of every pot; the players
> hitting the slots; the clueless VP players. I think we're up to
about 99% of casino customers. Was this really supposed to be an
> intelligent statement?
>
> There it is again....it's "the other guys" who lose and not

little dicky or any of the 'gurus'. Ho-Hum.... So wordy, yet so
nerdy....

So, you think these players all win? How do the casinos stay in
business?

Only a few intelligent players win, bozo. Like myself, Bob, and a
handful of people who write to me that all use some variation of my
play strategies. Fools like you & the gurus have no chance without
continuous extreme luck and you know it. The real money never leaves
with you. You make a bundle in 'phantom bucks' because you play like
frenzied addicts, but how many times are you laughed at when you walk
in the bank with a theoretical deposit??!!

> > > So, basically a bunch of "advantage players" playing the same
> > machine more or less ensures that the number of Royal Flushes

will be LESS than expected almost all of the time since the machine
will not be making enough money to get into a mode where "hot cycle
corrections" are needed.
  

> > Did I mention clueless?

> I certainly have, many times, and you fit that bill like a tee.

Poor try Robbie. This guy's just another yahoo who believes the
machines are controlled externally. Even you know better than that.

Externally? Now you making THAT up too?? Are you THAT sore about
losing here??
  

> > > In other words, enough idiot players would be needed to
> > > make the required profit on the machine to ensure that enough
> Royal Flushes could be "allowed".

> > I wonder if this guy even understands that this is beyond
secondary programming. This would require throwing out the RNG

altogether.

> More evidence that you've never kept up with modern technology in
> your own sorry field. Do you have to keep embarrassing me, as

your sponsor here??

Your repetitive words are getting more hollow all the time. Please
explain how the NGC code reviewers would miss all this extra code.

Please...PLEASE stop embarrassing yourself! It embarrasses me too you
know, as your sponsor here!
  

This would also suggest that somebody would be a COMPLETE IDIOT to

keep playing a machine after it just hit a Royal Flush,

correct? Because the machine would surely be overcorrected after

that point, and would probably be starting a bunch of new cold cycles.

> > So, I guess the two times I hit RFs within 15 minutes of each
other on the same machine is impossible. I'd better go back and

check those W2Gs and see if they are real.

> You just proved another point. That machine was in a hot cycle

that was required to correct it's hold percentage upwards. Thank you.

After giving me a double RF? Yup. That's right. This machine pays
double on RFs. 4.4% of the total payout. You better head back to

the drawing board, your lies are easily dismissed.

Oh, so now you add THAT in only after you struggled? And leave it to
you to make up that 4.4% number. It paid you what it paid you that
night and it had nothing to do with theory. You can't even enjoy the
times you win because you're so intertwined with analyzing every
aspect of the math models. No wonder you lead such a sour life!
  

> > > So, if a machine was running really cold while you were on

it,

> > would you be more inclined to try the "special plays" on the
theory
> that it might be getting ready for a "corrective hot cycle", or
would
> you wait to do them after a machine starts to go hit small pays a
> > couple of times after running cold for a while first?

> > That land in Louisiana is still for sale. Never mind that the
gulf is eroding several feet of it every day. As long as it's in

a "hot" cycle I'm sure you'll be OK.

>
> Now the dufus is a Geologist in addition to a geek! Can it

possibly get any funnier tonight?

If optdouble believes your con, he'd fall for anything. Maybe you

can sell him some of that land you bought last fall.

Yup, there's my answer! It just got funnier, and the joke CONTINUES
to be on little dicky!
  

> > > Also, it would stand to reason that correct "casino strategy"
for
> > VP machines would be to take over a machine which has just

busted

> out somebody after they placed a decent amount of credits on it,

in

> the theory that they have used up a lot of the cold cycles, and

the

> machine is then theoretically nearer to a corrective hot cycle.
>
> > I doubt that this is Robbie. Even he can see how idiotic this
> sounds. Did I mention clueless?

> Is that supposed to be a reply--or are you at a loss for words
> again?? At least you didn't make me laugh here too!

18 words this time ... A new record for you. I made my points and

you looked foolish trying to refute the facts with nothing but
idiotic babbling. How sweet it is ...

HAHAHA! I've even got you analyzing posts now! You are sooooo my
puppet. and being your own worst enemy is an added bonus that I thank
the Lord for every moment I'm on here!

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@>
wrote:
> > > > > Of course you're rattled again, little dicky
> > > >
> > > > RIV. Pointing out your lies is quite fun.
> > >
> > > So you agree, you're very rattled and trying to make believe
it's fun. i can live with that.
> >
> > No you can't, because you, more than anyone, know the

frustration you feel every day as your read my posts.

>
> I can live with that too! The more you post the more I come

alive! It's not often that geek-haters get to romp & stomp on them
after high school days are done. Again, thank you God!

Come on Robbie, grease that babbler. You haven't come up with a new
one in ages.

Why mess with a proven winner?

> > And all you've 'proved' is you're a dork. And stupid. and

blind. and one who works in a closed room of math models and geek-
expressions. And you're alone. Why, we all should only listen to you
and not anyone else who says you're wrong, RIGHT?!! Now maybe you
know what a true vp-blind clown is, RIGHT? RIGHT!
  

Didn't you mention "wordy" a bit ago? ... It's pretty obvious who's

rattled here. Rob obviously choose not to respond to my points
below because he knows he can't refute the facts. How sweet itis ...

one problem with your obvious nervous reply....My words hit
home and cause you trouble every time--
> >
> > Yup, what hit home this time was your lack of words. Absolutely
no response to my factual statements.

> But the facts are right there IN FRONT OF YOU, little dicky!

You've been made a fool of over and over and over. God bless the
world!!!

More hollow sounding words as I continually provide references and
facts to refute all your lies. I hope you liked NGC regulation 5.

You can post those meaningless little prayers of yours all night
long. What's the difference---you don't know how to read them
anyway!

which is the prime objective of my existence here. The more I

write, as a true writer and not a wannabee trying to 'belong' like
you, the better!
  

> > Then why didn't Rob write something in response to my facts?

Why did he choose to just babble away instead? You be the the judge.

> I AM the judge....and jury. And to you, I'm your executioner too!
> Feel that knife called 'the truth'? Feel it going right thru your
> make believe heart? (I say make believe because no human heart
could EVER treat a wife as disrespectful as you've done)!

The wife babble again? You're not listening, son. You're making a
complete fool out of yourself.

I don't THINK so little dicky, and from the sound of your deny reply
you might just be holding together by a thread!

Try to catch on. After everyone sees these babbles a few hundred

times it has no effect. If you can't come up with anything new, you
are demonstrating a lack of creativity. Not to mention that your con
has already been exposed. I think your new miidle name is very
relevant here.

Sorry, but I'm not with you here. Maybe that's a good thing for you--
saves you getting blasted for a moment.

> > > > I'll leave them here one more time to keep Robbie rattled.

> > > Is that suppose to clarify anything other than you've given

up on this subject by not responding to anything?? When facing

defeat, do it like a man instead of a weasel. C'mon....you're

almost dead! Show some dignity before you go!

> > RIV. The words "not responding to anything" is exactly what Rob
> did. Rob's inner voice took this opportunity to point that out to
> > everyone. How sweet it is ...
>
> i've asked for you to show at least SOME dignity. I mean, I

really don't like stomping on a dead man (just a hurtin' one!).

LMAO. Your words are dust. They've dried out and everyone can now

see what's behind them. A frustated bully who has met his match.

Now it's 'dust'! The words that 'don't affect him' are now 'dust'!!
Well, it's good to know he can't be 'affected' by them!!! HAHAHA!!!!
  

> > Anyone doubt that all of these rants by Rob are really just his
> > reflected self-image?

> I do I do!!

A lone voice in the wilderness. How sweet it is ...

It's me! It's me! Them are the best words since earlier today when
Jean Scott shouted "Look at me!" "Look at me!" And it eats little
dicky's heart out every time....that he just can't belong......

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote: