What are the best online video poker games available? Do reputable casino's such as Bovada offer video poker games having expectations > 100% (full pay deuces wild etc.)? What are the highest video poker returns available anywhere, either online or in physical casino's?
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The only legal online casinos are in three States: Delaware, Nevada, and New Jersey. If you are not in one of these States then it is most likely illegal to gamble online.
Out of country casinos where you are illegally gambling with them, then becomes essentially an underground casino, where you have no recourse with any dispute with them over cheating, payouts or anything.
Online casinos, like the one you mentioned above, uses Chinese banks in Hong Kong to wash the money though from your bank account to them. These transactions can present a problem for you when your bank alerts the Feds of transactions over 1000 and because of the anti-terror and money laundering laws this then gets you flagged.
Lastly, there is no assurances that the online casino software is honest and not setup to cheat you.
So, you yourself a favor and don't gamble online in a non-regulated casino especially if it is illegal for you to gamble online in your state.
I only WISH we could go back in time to 2001 when online gambling was the proverbial Wild West. It was a gold mine. All you needed was a little common sense, and make a small effort to know which online casinos were reputable and which were not. I played HUNDREDS of different places and never got screwed once. I do know there were some rogues who were slow-pay or no-play, but there were hundreds of reputable places too. I got jerked around once from one casino that did not have a stellar reputation but even they surprised me with my payout a few months late. A lot of smart players made A LOT of money. And why not? The casinos were GIVING it away.
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The only legal online casinos are in three States: Delaware, Nevada, and New Jersey. If you are not in one of these States then it is most likely illegal to gamble online.
Out of country casinos where you are illegally gambling with them, then becomes essentially an underground casino, where you have no recourse with any dispute with them over cheating, payouts or anything.
Online casinos, like the one you mentioned above, uses Chinese banks in Hong Kong to wash the money though from your bank account to them. These transactions can present a problem for you when your bank alerts the Feds of transactions over 1000 and because of the anti-terror and money laundering laws this then gets you flagged.
Lastly, there is no assurances that the online casino software is honest and not setup to cheat you.
So, you yourself a favor and don't gamble online in a non-regulated casino especially if it is illegal for you to gamble online in your state.
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Bovada is reputable. Last time I looked, they used Real Time Gaming software that had full pay Pick'em. There are others that use that software too, some good, some not so good. Although that software is capable of being set to full pay deuces, you probably won't find that now, although not many years ago you could. 5 Dimes has some excellent video poker choices, including some decent progressives. The fly in the ointment is depositing your money. It's a pain in the neck, and often includes some fees.
Probably the only place left in the solar system where you can find a lot of full pay deuces is at Stations casinos in Vegas. But just for quarters. That includes the two Fiestas casinos, but not the WIldfire places.
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What are the best online video poker games available? Do reputable casino's such as Bovada offer video poker games having expectations > 100% (full pay deuces wild etc.)? What are the highest video poker returns available anywhere, either online or in physical casino's?
Thx.
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I have a Bovada account that I use to play poker and sports bet. I just checked the video poker games. The Pickem is no longer there. There best game is 9/6 Jacks followed by Bonus Deuces, 99.45%.
The Feds are after 5Dimes right now. I looked into opening a 5Dimes account a while back. They wanted me to buy Amazon Gift Cards, scratch it off so they could see the code, then take a picture of it and the receipt and email it to them. The Feds are now trying to bust them for it. Homeland Security is even investigating them.
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With all the existing Federal Anti-terror and money laundering laws it would be very easy for Homeland Security to freeze an account where money from a suspected source is being moved. I would recommend that whatever account you use for deposits and funding of these online casinos be a separate account away from your day to day living needs.
Homeland Security can seize domains, as we have seen done with so many sites. Now that Obama has taken government control over the Internet domain names, and with pending trade agreements - it actually makes it easier for the Homeland Security to seize domains worldwide in the name of anti-terror and anti-money laundering.
Hackers are more of a threat than ever! Even legal land base casinos are getting hacked.
Also with economies on the edge of collapse, these online casino staff members may help themselves to your personal data and sell it to criminals. If you are engaged in an illegal activity in your State, the credit card companies don't have to cover your losses - meaning they can stick you with paying for stolen money and cancel your card too.
For all the reasons stated above and more, it is my conclusion that the risk is to high to play on any unregulated and illegal online casino.
I deposited on Bovada using a Walmart Visa pre-paid debit card. You get charged 4.9% to make the deposit but Mastercard and others are like 8%.
Bovada is pretty safe. They have been scrutinized by the poker community for years now, vis-a-vie, on running threads in the Internet Poker section of 2 + 2 Poker Forums.
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Thx.
On Mar 20, 2016, at 09:54, bobbartop@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Bovada is reputable. Last time I looked, they used Real Time Gaming software that had full pay Pick'em. There are others that use that software too, some good, some not so good. Although that software is capable of being set to full pay deuces, you probably won't find that now, although not many years ago you could. 5 Dimes has some excellent video poker choices, including some decent progressives. The fly in the ointment is depositing your money. It's a pain in the neck, and often includes some fees.
Probably the only place left in the solar system where you can find a lot of full pay deuces is at Stations casinos in Vegas. But just for quarters. That includes the two Fiestas casinos, but not the WIldfire places.
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On Mar 20, 2016, at 09:48, bobbartop@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I only WISH we could go back in time to 2001 when online gambling was the proverbial Wild West. It was a gold mine. All you needed was a little common sense, and make a small effort to know which online casinos were reputable and which were not. I played HUNDREDS of different places and never got screwed once. I do know there were some rogues who were slow-pay or no-play, but there were hundreds of reputable places too. I got jerked around once from one casino that did not have a stellar reputation but even they surprised me with my payout a few months late. A lot of smart players made A LOT of money. And why not? The casinos were GIVING it away.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mvetanen@...> wrote :
The only legal online casinos are in three States: Delaware, Nevada, and New Jersey. If you are not in one of these States then it is most likely illegal to gamble online.
Out of country casinos where you are illegally gambling with them, then becomes essentially an underground casino, where you have no recourse with any dispute with them over cheating, payouts or anything.
Online casinos, like the one you mentioned above, uses Chinese banks in Hong Kong to wash the money though from your bank account to them. These transactions can present a problem for you when your bank alerts the Feds of transactions over 1000 and because of the anti-terror and money laundering laws this then gets you flagged.
Lastly, there is no assurances that the online casino software is honest and not setup to cheat you.
So, you yourself a favor and don't gamble online in a non-regulated casino especially if it is illegal for you to gamble online in your state.
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Thx.
On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:35, mvetanen@rocketmail.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
With all the existing Federal Anti-terror and money laundering laws it would be very easy for Homeland Security to freeze an account where money from a suspected source is being moved. I would recommend that whatever account you use for deposits and funding of these online casinos be a separate account away from your day to day living needs.
Homeland Security can seize domains, as we have seen done with so many sites. Now that Obama has taken government control over the Internet domain names, and with pending trade agreements - it actually makes it easier for the Homeland Security to seize domains worldwide in the name of anti-terror and anti-money laundering.
Hackers are more of a threat than ever! Even legal land base casinos are getting hacked.
Also with economies on the edge of collapse, these online casino staff members may help themselves to your personal data and sell it to criminals. If you are engaged in an illegal activity in your State, the credit card companies don't have to cover your losses - meaning they can stick you with paying for stolen money and cancel your card too.
For all the reasons stated above and more, it is my conclusion that the risk is to high to play on any unregulated and illegal online casino.
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"The only legal online casinos are in three States: Delaware, Nevada, and New Jersey. If you are not in one of these States then it is most likely illegal to gamble online."
That statement is not entirely accurate. There are only like 3 states(I think its 3 states) where online gambling is illegal Washington being one of them. Online gambling is not illegal in this country. Its just NJ,DE, and NV that have regulated online gaming on US soil.
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Two links to read about online gamblers who got busted -
http://www.gamblingandthelaw.com/index.php/columns/44-161bustedonlinebet
Bodog (bovada) has had lots of legal troubles with the Feds and still is a target. Pending trade laws may once again give teeth to the DHS to go after them.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/02/28/feds-indict-former-online-gambling-billionaire-calvin-ayre/#614edb017347
The guy over at Vegas clicks has put together a good summery of the legality of gambling online
http://vegasclick.com/online/legal.html
Here in Oregon it is a felony to accept payments from online gambling and a misdemeanor to engage in online gambling.
http://www.legaluspokersites.com/state-laws/oregon/
The risk of online gambling is States where it is not legal is very clear.
Thanks for the tip about 5 Dimes. I don't know how I missed that story, I usually try to keep up. In their "bonus" casino they have an ABUNDANCE of different and creative styles of video poker, blackjack, keno, etc.
Regarding Bovada, what I wrote was really old information out of my head so I apologize. I deposited with Bo Dog a loooong time ago and they were using Real Time Gaming software and had full pay Pick'em. What Bovada is using now, I just looked at it, and I don't even know what software it is, whether it is still RTG or not. So again, I apologize for speaking when I wasn't sure about something.
-BB
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I have a Bovada account that I use to play poker and sports bet. I just checked the video poker games. The Pickem is no longer there. There best game is 9/6 Jacks followed by Bonus Deuces, 99.45%.
The Feds are after 5Dimes right now. I looked into opening a 5Dimes account a while back. They wanted me to buy Amazon Gift Cards, scratch it off so they could see the code, then take a picture of it and the receipt and email it to them. The Feds are now trying to bust them for it. Homeland Security is even investigating them.
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Man, they really screwed things up. I'll never forget that sad afternoon in 2006 when Congress was passing the "Port Security" legislation. What a bunch of crap, tacking on the anti-online gambling clause. I sat there watching C-Span, and my heart just sank. I had hundreds of different icons on my computer desktop. lol That was the beginning of the end
I agree with you that it is not worth the risk. Just not worth the trouble, or risk.
thanks for the links,
-BB
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mvetanen@...> wrote :
Two links to read about online gamblers who got busted -
http://www.gamblingandthelaw.com/index.php/columns/44-161bustedonlinebet
Bodog (bovada) has had lots of legal troubles with the Feds and still is a target. Pending trade laws may once again give teeth to the DHS to go after them.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/02/28/feds-indict-former-online-gambling-billionaire-calvin-ayre/#614edb017347
The guy over at Vegas clicks has put together a good summery of the legality of gambling online
http://vegasclick.com/online/legal.html
Here in Oregon it is a felony to accept payments from online gambling and a misdemeanor to engage in online gambling.
http://www.legaluspokersites.com/state-laws/oregon/
The risk of online gambling is States where it is not legal is very clear.
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Ok, I just googled it and read all about it. The government just never gives up, do they. What a racket.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mickeycrimm@...> wrote :
The Feds are after 5Dimes right now. I looked into opening a 5Dimes account a while back. They wanted me to buy Amazon Gift Cards, scratch it off so they could see the code, then take a picture of it and the receipt and email it to them. The Feds are now trying to bust them for it. Homeland Security is even investigating them.
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epeppink, you will probably have to do your own research if you want to play online. Latestcasinobonuses.com might be the best way to go. LCB is owned by Joshua Chan who also now owns Wizard of Odds, Wizard of Vegas and BJ21.
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Thx.
On Mar 20, 2016, at 17:19, mickeycrimm@yahoo.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
epeppink, you will probably have to do your own research if you want to play online. Latestcasinobonuses.com might be the best way to go. LCB is owned by Joshua Chan who also now owns Wizard of Odds, Wizard of Vegas and BJ21.
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I used to live to read Casinomeister. Then when the ax came down, I kinda forgot about it. But I just looked and it's still there. I always trusted the guy who runs it. I see now there is a Casinomeister.US, for Americans. So you can look at two sites now. He has an accredited list and it's pretty tough to stay on it. He does a good job weeding out the bad ones. I also used to pay attention to SportsbookReview dot com. They're pretty good too.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <mickeycrimm@...> wrote :
epeppink, you will probably have to do your own research if you want to play online. Latestcasinobonuses.com might be the best way to go. LCB is owned by Joshua Chan who also now owns Wizard of Odds, Wizard of Vegas and BJ21.
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This thread was timely, as I just did a survey of the online VP in New Jersey during February. See
https://www.new-jersey-online-casinos.com/where-is-best-video-poker-online-in-nj/
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Thank you for this post. Seems there has been improvement since they began as I did look back then. I'm wondering, are there any progressives? Seems like it should be easy enough to provide progressives.
---In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, <kensmith@...> wrote :
This thread was timely, as I just did a survey of the online VP in New Jersey during February. See
https://www.new-jersey-online-casinos.com/where-is-best-video-poker-online-in-nj/ https://www.new-jersey-online-casinos.com/where-is-best-video-poker-online-in-nj/
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