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#1

I play VP at Seneca Niagara Casino. Talking with one of the Techs I
asked him if these machines were random hands dealt. He informed me
that the machine is not told when to deal certain hands but, a 1.5
percent hold is built into every machine. This seems to contradict
itself. How can a machine be random and have a hold percentage built
in? Could someone explain this to me? Thanks

#2

If the game you were looking at was 9/5 jacks or better, the E.V. would be approx. 98.5%, this gives the casino a long term hold against perfect play of 1.5% .
The machine is still perfectly random.
A simpler example is roulette, it's random but the 0 and 00 give the casino a 5% edge.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: tghysel
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:16 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] video poker

  I play VP at Seneca Niagara Casino. Talking with one of the Techs I
  asked him if these machines were random hands dealt. He informed me
  that the machine is not told when to deal certain hands but, a 1.5
  percent hold is built into every machine. This seems to contradict
  itself. How can a machine be random and have a hold percentage built
  in? Could someone explain this to me? Thanks

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#3

Hi. Al Pearson already answered this query satisfactorily. As a side
note, I have found that service technicians are a wealth of
MISinformation. I had one that told me that a card that was discarded
could return as a replacement card. And this guy claimed to be a
supervisor! I guess that you don't have to understand randomness or
technical theory to repair a malfunctioning V.P. machine. Dick McK.

tghysel wrote:

I play VP at Seneca Niagara Casino. Talking with one of the Techs I
asked him if these machines were random hands dealt. He informed me
that the machine is not told when to deal certain hands but, a 1.5
percent hold is built into every machine. This seems to contradict
itself. How can a machine be random and have a hold percentage built
in? Could someone explain this to me? Thanks

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#4

If the game you were looking at was 9/5 jacks or better, the E.V.

would be approx. 98.5%, this gives the casino a long term hold
against perfect play of 1.5% .

The machine is still perfectly random.
A simpler example is roulette, it's random but the 0 and 00 give

the casino a 5% edge.

Regards
A.P.

I haven't found any $.25 JOB.Most are 8/5 and below. The best we have
is 7/5 BP. He seemed to imply the hold was above and beyond the pay
table. As posted, he might not know. Anyways, Thanks for the
responses..

Tom

  From: tghysel
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:16 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] video poker

  I play VP at Seneca Niagara Casino. Talking with one of the Techs

I

  asked him if these machines were random hands dealt. He informed

me

  that the machine is not told when to deal certain hands but, a

1.5

  percent hold is built into every machine. This seems to

contradict

  itself. How can a machine be random and have a hold percentage

built

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  in? Could someone explain this to me? Thanks

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