Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
John
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video poker the times they are a changing
They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@...> wrote:
Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
John[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was based on action.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
>
> Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> John
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
To the best of my knowledge, there is no published number of points for Sachem
level. The highest published level, Sagamore, requires 1600 points semiannually.
So they can award or deny Sachem status based on whatever criteria they
determine at any given point. One might assume that a minimum number of points,
if in fact points are the determining factor, would probably be at least double
Sagamore's requirement. But that's not to say that they don't take into account
other criteria, and average daily play, theo, or whatever else strikes their
fancy could certainly enter into the equation.
Certainly the game is rigged. Don’t let that stop you; if you don’t bet, you
can’t win. -Lazarus Long
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice,
there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation
to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein
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From: Dave <haaljo@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 10:01:12 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was
based on action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the
next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you
lose not how much you play--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
>
> Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more
machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> John
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
It is based on your theo and not action.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:
Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was based on action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > John
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
I know for a fact Sachem is theo based. It also requires a certain number of trips. Club sachem is a % of those sachem players. The theo number does change every six months since it is also the top X(not sure of the number) % of their players. I am sure there are exceptions but that is the basics of it.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, GURU PERF <guruperf@...> wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, there is no published number of points for Sachem
level. The highest published level, Sagamore, requires 1600 points semiannually.
So they can award or deny Sachem status based on whatever criteria they
determine at any given point. One might assume that a minimum number of points,
if in fact points are the determining factor, would probably be at least double
Sagamore's requirement. But that's not to say that they don't take into account
other criteria, and average daily play, theo, or whatever else strikes their
fancy could certainly enter into the equation.Certainly the game is rigged. Donât let that stop you; if you donât bet, you
canât win. -Lazarus LongIn theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice,
there is. -Yogi Berra
There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation
to cope with a statistical universe. -Robert Heinlein________________________________
From: Dave <haaljo@...>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 10:01:12 PM
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changingWhy would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was
based on action.--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the
>next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you
>lose not how much you play
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more
>machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > John
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I am club Sachem and I have been getting $500.00 Free Play since January. The latest offers are for $300.00. Has anyone gotten $500.00 in Free Play for the next few weeks?
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--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:30 AM
It is based on your theo and not action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:
Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was based on action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > John
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
My wife and I are both Club Sachem and all the players I know who are have been downgraded to 300 also.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Michael Carlomusto <mcarlomusto96@...> wrote:
I am club Sachem and I have been getting $500.00 Free Play since January. The latest offers are for $300.00. Has anyone gotten $500.00 in Free Play for the next few weeks?
Â--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:30 AMÂ
It is based on your theo and not action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was based on action.
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
> >
> > They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
> >
> > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > > John
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks for the info, hello Borgata!
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--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:15 PM
My wife and I are both Club Sachem and all the players I know who are have been downgraded to 300 also.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Michael Carlomusto <mcarlomusto96@...> wrote:
I am club Sachem and I have been getting $500.00 Free Play since January. The latest offers are for $300.00. Has anyone gotten $500.00 in Free Play for the next few weeks?
Â--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:30 AMÂ
It is based on your theo and not action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was based on action.
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
> >
> > They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you lose not how much you play
> >
> > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > > John
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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We received several mailers today. My wife and i have both been downgraded to
300. Point swipe for 9/5 is 100 points.
I received more Freeplay and gifts for the month of September from Foxwoods than
Mohegan after one day of play. We have both been Sachem for several years.
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From: Michael Carlomusto <mcarlomusto96@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 1:20:43 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
Thanks for the info, hello Borgata!
--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 12:15 PM
My wife and I are both Club Sachem and all the players I know who are have been
downgraded to 300 also.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, Michael Carlomusto <mcarlomusto96@...>
wrote:
I am club Sachem and I have been getting $500.00 Free Play since January. The
latest offers are for $300.00. Has anyone gotten $500.00 in Free Play for the
next few weeks?
Â--- On Fri, 8/27/10, mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
From: mel3dmdmsncom <mel3dmd@...>
Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] Re: video poker the times they are a changing
To: vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:30 AMÂ
It is based on your theo and not action.
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> Why would change in Theo effect your Sachem status? I thought card level was
based on action.
>
> --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
> >
> > They used to but not any more. Am sachem but even with the same play in the
next six months I will only be sag. They are now more interested in what you
lose not how much you play
> >
> > --- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "John" <treasureman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe they are giving good comps to the high end players of $1 or more
machines, but for the quarter player they offer little incentive or playable VP.
> > > John
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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One of the positives of this group or any other VP group is the opportunity to express your displeasure( moan,gripe). However after that is over with, it is now your right to express your displeasure by telling mgmt. and by USING YOUR FEET !
Larry F.
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@...> wrote:
My wife and I are both Club Sachem and all the players I know who are have been downgraded to 300 also.
Totally agree. Interesting to see what happens in the next six months with little play
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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja@..." <lfcmja@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mel3dmdmsncom" <mel3dmd@> wrote:
>
> My wife and I are both Club Sachem and all the players I know who are have been downgraded to 300 also.One of the positives of this group or any other VP group is the opportunity to express your displeasure( moan,gripe). However after that is over with, it is now your right to express your displeasure by telling mgmt. and by USING YOUR FEET !
Larry F.