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To Bob Dancer and others, Let me make this perfectly clear (remember Richard Nixon) I am not in favor of anyone using electronic devices or "cheat sheets" at video poker. Be cool you don't want the casino to know or guess anything is out of the ordinary. For your own sake and the sake of the video poker community please just use your own brain. Now to the law point. Two new casinos are opening up casino A and casino B. Both casinos have 16-10 2's and both casinos return 0.25% cash-back. Casino A also has a $10 sign up bonus after playing $10 through. You are hopping to get "offers" from both places but nothing is stated. At casino A you see a player use an electronic device to play perfectly. He puts only $10 through. He goes to the players club to collect his $10. According to Bob Dancer that player committed a crime. Someone else puts $100,000 through. He is not a criminal. Hugh? In casino B neither player would be a criminal. Also what if either casino A or B decided after seeing the player that put $100,000 through (let's pretend for a minute that he is a big winner) to "make him a criminal" by giving all players an extra 0.05% cash back. Would he be facing jail time and a felony conviction because the casino decided it didn't like him? Could the casino get the money back that he won? In my opinion the law is for the game only, not the game and the extras. Again at the risk of repeating my self please players don't use electronic devices. Does any lawyer know the answer to these situations?

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To Bob Dancer and others, Let me make this perfectly clear (remember Richard Nixon) I am not in favor of anyone using electronic devices or "cheat sheets" at video poker. Be cool you don't want the casino to know or guess anything is out of the ordinary. For your own sake and the sake of the video poker community please just use your own brain. Now to the law point. Two new casinos are opening up casino A and casino B. Both casinos have 16-10 2's and both casinos return 0.25% cash-back. Casino A also has a $10 sign up bonus after playing $10 through. You are hopping to get "offers" from both places but nothing is stated. At casino A you see a player use an electronic device to play perfectly. He puts only $10 through. He goes to the players club to collect his $10. According to Bob Dancer that player committed a crime. Someone else puts $100,000 through. He is not a criminal. Hugh? In casino B neither player would be a criminal. Also what if either casino A or B decided after seeing
the player that put $100,000 through (let's pretend for a minute that he is a big winner) to "make him a criminal" by giving all players an extra 0.05% cash back. Would he be facing jail time and a felony conviction because the casino decided it didn't like him? Could the casino get the money back that he won? In my opinion the law is for the game only, not the game and the extras. Again at the risk of repeating my self please players don't use electronic devices. Does any lawyer know the answer to these situations?

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I don't believe the expected value of the game is relevant to the law.

007 wrote: I don’t believe the expected value of the game is relevant to the law.

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Nor do I.
Bob Nersesian has spoken about this several times on Gambling with an Edge. When it comes to gambling issues, Nersesian is very knowledgeable. I would trust his “gut feel” for how a court is going to act.

Whatever you think of me, the Nersesian shows have considerable information in them for gamblers. The shows are archived on bobdancer.com and you can access them for free.