Venetian/Palazzo, further downgrades...

[bjaygold]

On the dollar 3/5/10-play STP machine at Palazzo, Bonus Poker, has been
downgraded from 8/5 to 6/5.

And there are no more 9/6 JOB at either casino below $100 machines--the $25
machines are now 9/5. Today, no one was playing the $100 machines. Guess they
finally priced everyone out of the "good" paytable.

Wynn, anyone?

Brian

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[fivespot]

the $100 machines are now 9/5 as well.

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:46 PM, <bjaygold@aol.com> wrote:

And there are no more 9/6 JOB at either casino below $100 machines--the $25
machines are now 9/5. Today, no one was playing the $100 machines. Guess they
finally priced everyone out of the "good" paytable.

[vegasvpplayer1]

And there are no more 9/6 JOB at either casino below $100 machines--

the $25

machines are now 9/5. Today, no one was playing the $100 machines.

Guess they

finally priced everyone out of the "good" paytable.

The $100 machines at both properties got play this morning prior to
their downgrades. The suits were called in and looked none too happy!
I wonder if a few royals would have got old man Adelson himself wheeled
in?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjaygold@... wrote:

[mikeymic]

On the dollar 3/5/10-play STP machine at Palazzo, Bonus Poker, has

been

downgraded from 8/5 to 6/5.

And there are no more 9/6 JOB at either casino below $100 machines--

the $25

machines are now 9/5. Today, no one was playing the $100 machines.

Guess they

finally priced everyone out of the "good" paytable.

Wynn, anyone?

Brian

The Wynn is very much aware of what Venetian/Palazzo are doing.

In a recent conversation with a Wynn host about a future stay we were
discussing comp levels. Out of the blue she blurted out, "Oh, and by
the way, don't forget we have 9/6 Jacks".

The Wynn isn't "accidentally" paying back a per cent better on their
Jacks game. Neither was the Venetian unaware of the same when they
immediately upgraded disgruntled Harrahs Diamond and Seven Star
players when newly enrolled in the old Venetian Players Club, now
Club Grazie.

But it didn't take long after the Palazzo opened for things to
deteriorate. Venetian lured experienced players from the Harrahs
properties and then downgraded. So for those planning long-term stays
at the Wynn you best read every paytable in full on every visit. If
Wynn follows Venetian's lead those 9/6 "bargains" won't last as long
as you think.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjaygold@... wrote:

[James_Morgan]

NOTE: This comment assumes that 8/5 BP is available in all levels.

As much as everyone is complaining about Venetian, it seems like it
is better now than it was 2 months ago. The only problem is now
you have to play on Wednesdays with triple points. I am only at
the gold level, but at the highest level, this is even more so.

For gold level...
$6250 coin in gets 7500 pts which is worth $45. This is $30 more
than before. This is an extra .48%, which makes up for the
loss in ER caused by moving from 9/6 JOB to 8/5 BP.

Of course, if triple points go away and the games remain unchanged,
the change will be very noticable.

I was at the Venetian on Wed around 7PM. The 4 8/5 BP machines
(as far as I know these are the only 4 in the casino, at least
at the dollar level) were not all that busy. It took me almost 2
hours to play the 7500 coin in for my coupon, (and I know some
people have a lot more play to do for their coupon). ALl of this
makes me wonder what is going on? I would expect those machines to
be VERY busy on Wednesday.

Am I missing something, such as another bank or 2 of 8/5 BP?

Quad Zilla

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjaygold@ wrote:
>
> On the dollar 3/5/10-play STP machine at Palazzo, Bonus Poker, has
been
> downgraded from 8/5 to 6/5.
>
> And there are no more 9/6 JOB at either casino below $100 machines--
the $25
> machines are now 9/5. Today, no one was playing the $100 machines.
Guess they
> finally priced everyone out of the "good" paytable.
>
> Wynn, anyone?
>
> Brian

The Wynn is very much aware of what Venetian/Palazzo are doing.

In a recent conversation with a Wynn host about a future stay we were
discussing comp levels. Out of the blue she blurted out, "Oh, and by
the way, don't forget we have 9/6 Jacks".

The Wynn isn't "accidentally" paying back a per cent better on their
Jacks game. Neither was the Venetian unaware of the same when they
immediately upgraded disgruntled Harrahs Diamond and Seven Star
players when newly enrolled in the old Venetian Players Club, now
Club Grazie.

But it didn't take long after the Palazzo opened for things to
deteriorate. Venetian lured experienced players from the Harrahs
properties and then downgraded. So for those planning long-term stays
at the Wynn you best read every paytable in full on every visit. If
Wynn follows Venetian's lead those 9/6 "bargains" won't last as long
as you think.

[David4]

[Michael_Peck]

You don't have to be a local to get multi points. They're just not
publicizing it heavily, at least to out of towners.

Mike P.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sarahmukasa10" <sarahmukasa10@...> wrote:

Question about triple points on Wednesdays. I live out of town and
will be there in a couple of weeks. I have never received any notice
from Club Grazie about multi point days. I receive several offers
but no mention about multi points. Is this information only sent to
Vegas locals? Does it (multi points) only apply to locals who have
received notification in the mail? Thanks in advance.

[fivespot]

playing with triple points on wednesday is slightly better than
playing with no promotion at all before the downgrades, true.

but if there's a weekend promotion and you'd like to play video poker
for it, you're stuck playing much worse games. if you're coming into
town and want to play more than one day, you're stuck playing much
worse games. if they get rid of triple points, you're stuck playing
much worse games.

you may be able to get that extra 0.1% one day a week, but overall it
looks like a serious decline from where i'm sitting.

cheers,

five

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what7do7you7want <what7do7you7want@yahoo.com> wrote:

As much as everyone is complaining about Venetian, it seems like it
is better now than it was 2 months ago. The only problem is now
you have to play on Wednesdays with triple points.