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VegasInc: Station Casinos revamps Boarding Pass perks to entice gamblers

http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2011/sep/13/station-casinos-revamps-boarding-pass-perks-entice/

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#2

It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.

It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.

#3

Yes that is correct $1 = 3 base points on slots and video.I believe the 100 percent machines will be $4 = 3 points( was $4= 1 point).

Also, you will be able to get cash back for your points( 1000= $1)

the details should be out tomorrow

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@...> wrote:

It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.

It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.

#4

Will the value of existing points, including 600 Fiesta and Wildfire
points being worth $1, remain the same, or might they pull a
Terrible's and reduce it?

sheiky2 wrote:

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Yes that is correct $1 = 3 base points on slots and video.I believe the 100 percent machines will be $4 = 3 points( was $4= 1 point).

Also, you will be able to get cash back for your points( 1000= $1)

the details should be out tomorrow

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@...> wrote:

It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.

It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.

#5

I was a gold card with 5 mil points. I used to get a 25% discount for buffet and 600 pts for $1 in food. I found out that it is now 1000 pts for $1 in food and there is no longer a 25% discount for gold. You need to be platinum to get 25% discount. Gold used to be 500 base points. Now it is 40,000 base points.

you get 3x points at all times, but your level is based on tier points, and tier points are 1 pt per $1 coin in. The brochure makes no mention of positive EV games having different tier point requirements.

so with 600 pts the old way, triple points now, that is like 1800 point but it takes 1000 pts for food now, so it is really like a 1.8x point rate instead of 3x.

My old points were converted to the new levels, so my 5 mil pts are now 8.1 mil. so at least they did now lower their value.

Unsure how my fiesta points will be combined. as of today they were not on my stations card. did not goto fiest to check to see how my point balace was adusted.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:

Will the value of existing points, including 600 Fiesta and Wildfire
points being worth $1, remain the same, or might they pull a
Terrible's and reduce it?

#6

Gold Card is now 1000 credits, Platinum will require earning 40,000 points.

Scot

AK-SAR-BEN

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to entice gamblers

I was a gold card with 5 mil points. I used to get a 25% discount for buffet
and 600 pts for $1 in food. I found out that it is now 1000 pts for $1 in
food and there is no longer a 25% discount for gold. You need to be platinum
to get 25% discount. Gold used to be 500 base points. Now it is 40,000 base
points.

you get 3x points at all times, but your level is based on tier points, and
tier points are 1 pt per $1 coin in. The brochure makes no mention of
positive EV games having different tier point requirements.

so with 600 pts the old way, triple points now, that is like 1800 point but
it takes 1000 pts for food now, so it is really like a 1.8x point rate
instead of 3x.

My old points were converted to the new levels, so my 5 mil pts are now 8.1
mil. so at least they did now lower their value.

Unsure how my fiesta points will be combined. as of today they were not on
my stations card. did not goto fiest to check to see how my point balace was
adusted.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:

Will the value of existing points, including 600 Fiesta and Wildfire
points being worth $1, remain the same, or might they pull a
Terrible's and reduce it?

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#7

Went to one of their info sessions tonight. The free gift was a lame
T-shirt with a tacky advert on the backside. At least the dessert
things were semi-tasty.

You need to go to the Reward Centre and request that your Fiesta (&
Wildfire, if applicable) accounts be merged into your Boarding Pass
account. This didn't happen automatically.

You can also choose which account number you wish to keep.

I do feel the 1000 points per comp $ is a downgrade, but I guess they
feel like the 3x points makes up for the 400 extra points per
dollar. It does make the 3x rate a bit deceptive, though.

8.1 million points? Let me know if you ever care to donate them to
me. LOL!! BTW, there is also a $1000/day limit on cash back
redemption, and they said only points earned after February (?) 2008
are eligible to be redeemed for cash back.

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On 15 Sep 2011, at 17:00, AK-SAR-BEN wrote:

I was a gold card with 5 mil points. I used to get a 25% discount
for buffet and 600 pts for $1 in food. I found out that it is now
1000 pts for $1 in food and there is no longer a 25% discount for
gold. You need to be platinum to get 25% discount. Gold used to be
500 base points. Now it is 40,000 base points.

you get 3x points at all times, but your level is based on tier
points, and tier points are 1 pt per $1 coin in. The brochure makes
no mention of positive EV games having different tier point
requirements.

so with 600 pts the old way, triple points now, that is like 1800
point but it takes 1000 pts for food now, so it is really like a
1.8x point rate instead of 3x.

My old points were converted to the new levels, so my 5 mil pts are
now 8.1 mil. so at least they did now lower their value.

Unsure how my fiesta points will be combined. as of today they were
not on my stations card. did not goto fiest to check to see how my
point balace was adusted.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@...> wrote:
>
> Will the value of existing points, including 600 Fiesta and Wildfire
> points being worth $1, remain the same, or might they pull a
> Terrible's and reduce it?

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#8

Here are the new rules: http://www.stationcasinos.com/pdf/allnewbp_rules.pdf

Everything is pretty self explanatory except it doesn't address "status credits" which count towards your tier. This is actually explained in the brochure which can be found at the Rewards Center when you pick up your new card. For VP, $1 = 1 status credit so 3x points don't get you any faster to the next tier, unfortunately.

I really hope the multipliers we get in the mailers are decent! I'm trying to grind up to Platinum this weekend (halfway there.) If my bankroll hasn't busted I'll try and get President by the end of next month.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sheiky2" <sheiky2@...> wrote:

Yes that is correct $1 = 3 base points on slots and video.I believe the 100 percent machines will be $4 = 3 points( was $4= 1 point).

Also, you will be able to get cash back for your points( 1000= $1)

the details should be out tomorrow

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@> wrote:
>
> It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.
>
> It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.
>

#9

President is "worth" waht Platinum used to be worth 50% off the buffet. SAME for CHAIRMAN.
This club has devalued any OLD points you have dramtically.
If you are just starting out,it is fine. Just like South Point and M as far as cashback goes.
Me I have over $6000 in comps that are now worth about 1/2 that due to the new 1000 pt. =$1 in all the restaurants. The buffet is even worse! With my old 75% discount, a $14 buffet cost aboout $2 in cash back pts.. Now it costs $7.
HOW IS THIS BENEFITING ME?
They said I would have a surprise, well I had one. I lost about $14,000 worth of buffets!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@...> wrote:

Here are the new rules: http://www.stationcasinos.com/pdf/allnewbp_rules.pdf

Everything is pretty self explanatory except it doesn't address "status credits" which count towards your tier. This is actually explained in the brochure which can be found at the Rewards Center when you pick up your new card. For VP, $1 = 1 status credit so 3x points don't get you any faster to the next tier, unfortunately.

I really hope the multipliers we get in the mailers are decent! I'm trying to grind up to Platinum this weekend (halfway there.) If my bankroll hasn't busted I'll try and get President by the end of next month.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sheiky2" <sheiky2@> wrote:
>
> Yes that is correct $1 = 3 base points on slots and video.I believe the 100 percent machines will be $4 = 3 points( was $4= 1 point).
>
> Also, you will be able to get cash back for your points( 1000= $1)
>
> the details should be out tomorrow
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@> wrote:
> >
> > It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.
> >
> > It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.
> >
>

#10

HOW IS THIS BENEFITING ME?
They said I would have a surprise, well I had one. I lost about $14,000 worth of buffets!

Well, maybe if you factor in the lack of weight gain and the lowered cholesterol levels. . . . . .

Sorry, don't REALLY mean to make light of it, but I couldn't resist. But seriously, this is going on all over the country. Here in CT, the Mohegan Sun now gives NO points on all their best VP machines ( best meaning 98% and above), AND dramatically raised the number of coins in for points. There was even a report of someone who had his EARNED club status taken away because they didn't like his action.

A sad story, but one that appears to be spreading all to rapidly.

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#11

President is "worth" waht Platinum used to be worth 50% off the buffet. SAME for CHAIRMAN.
This club has devalued any OLD points you have dramtically.
If you are just starting out,it is fine.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "the7thwarrior" <Judy@...> wrote:

I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued. As for card benefits, the chart still shows that President gets 75% off up to eight people and Chairman is 75% off unlimited. Coupled with the fact that the levels of play for all levels have been reduced makes this a much better play.

#12

5 million points and you are only Gold, I assume you were once higher tier. They have also cut the price of the buffets take that into account.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "AK-SAR-BEN" <tomskilv@...> wrote:

I was a gold card with 5 mil points. I used to get a 25% discount for buffet and 600 pts for $1 in food. I found out that it is now 1000 pts for $1 in food and there is no longer a 25% discount for gold. You need to be platinum to get 25% discount. Gold used to be 500 base points. Now it is 40,000 base points.

you get 3x points at all times, but your level is based on tier points, and tier points are 1 pt per $1 coin in. The brochure makes no mention of positive EV games having different tier point requirements.

so with 600 pts the old way, triple points now, that is like 1800 point but it takes 1000 pts for food now, so it is really like a 1.8x point rate instead of 3x.

My old points were converted to the new levels, so my 5 mil pts are now 8.1 mil. so at least they did now lower their value.

Unsure how my fiesta points will be combined. as of today they were not on my stations card. did not goto fiest to check to see how my point balace was adusted.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, 007 <007@> wrote:
>
> Will the value of existing points, including 600 Fiesta and Wildfire
> points being worth $1, remain the same, or might they pull a
> Terrible's and reduce it?

#13

<<I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued.>>

Were these all points earned in the years since they changed to Free Play? I forget the date for that change. I believe the 40% increase applies to these.

However, I am wondering about my old points - those calculated back before the last change. These were comp points only and could be used for restaurants, etc. and could be used for travel if you were in the top two or three tiers. Are they staying the same value and can be redeemed as they have been???

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________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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#14

Since the exchange rate is still 1000 pts = $1, shouldn't the points earned since the last change be exactly the same and the points before the last change that were 600 pts to 1 for food be the ones that increased by 40%? Am I missing something? All my points were from after the last change and they stayed the same.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

<<I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued.>>

Were these all points earned in the years since they changed to Free Play? I forget the date for that change. I believe the 40% increase applies to these.

However, I am wondering about my old points - those calculated back before the last change. These were comp points only and could be used for restaurants, etc. and could be used for travel if you were in the top two or three tiers. Are they staying the same value and can be redeemed as they have been???
________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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#15

I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued.>>

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

Were these all points earned in the years since they changed to Free Play? I forget the date for that change. I believe the 40% increase applies to these.

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I have to assume that these were the "old points" Jean. I used to have millions of points but over the last three years since "giving up on GVR" I used up points for travel and food. I have always used points available for free play as they became available.

I have to say that the new changes might just cause me to start playing there again on a regular basis? I always liked the people on the floor. It was their marketing that drove my wife and I away! Now that South Point has a slot director with similar marketing skills as Stations, we will probably direct some of our play back to GVR?

#16

Jean: 265,000 points were worth $441 when converted to comps at 600 to the dollar.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@cox.net>

<<I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued.

#17

100K BASE points in 6 months = president
300K base points in 6 months = chairman

Problem is they CUT THE BENEFITS of these statuses.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "csantos84" <drumbandit@...> wrote:

It's not quite clear in the article but can someone confirm the points earned (3 pts = $1 coin) are base points? If they're lowering gambling thresholds for upper tiers then both factors will make it much easier to get President/Chairman status.

It looks like they're looking to compete with South Point for best in town base slot club rate (0.30%) and FP video poker. Better mailers and a higher frequency of multiplier days would make Stations VP a bit juicier.

#18

Points earned prior to FEB. 2008 were "bumped up."
New points earned after that stayed the same.
So players who have NOT used their old points, NOT been actively using their accounts get the benefits of a 40% increase. Meanwhile those of us who have been "loyal" to Stations accumulating new points get nothing! We could have turned our points into freeplay 1000 to the $1 for 3 years. NOTHING has changed! OUR old points remain devalued now for anything else!

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:

<<I just checked my account and found my points to have increased by 40%. My former 265,000 points balance is now 371,000 so my points are not devalued.>>

Were these all points earned in the years since they changed to Free Play? I forget the date for that change. I believe the 40% increase applies to these.

However, I am wondering about my old points - those calculated back before the last change. These were comp points only and could be used for restaurants, etc. and could be used for travel if you were in the top two or three tiers. Are they staying the same value and can be redeemed as they have been???
________________
Jean $¢ott, Frugal Gambler
http://queenofcomps.com/
You can read my blog at
http://jscott.lvablog.com/

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