Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report.
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Hey group,
Just booked a trip out to LV from 7/24 - 7/31. Will have transportation so travel will not be a problem. Does anyone know of any offers (gaming, shows, food, or otherwise) that I should definitely take advantage of and not miss??
Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan
and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report.
---Westin and both Canneries too.
Scot
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Scot Krause wrote:
---Westin and both Canneries too.
I haven't been in Nevada if 4 1/2 years now so I have no idea what the inventory on the casino floors looks like today. I'm wondering if any slot machines (not video pokers) have been disqualified from these loss rebate promotions.
If these type promotions had been going on in the heyday of advantage slots the casinos would have gotten crushed. That is, the ones with the right equipment. It would have been so lucrative that some guys would've been going down to D Street or St. Vincent's looking for new sign-ups. On some type of advantage slots it's easy to win but show a loss, or take a small loss while showing a much bigger loss. It would have been done through slot card manipulation.
Take a game like Wild Cherry Bonus Pie/Diamond Thief. Roughly, 2/3's of the payback is in the line pays and 1/3'rd of the payback is in the bonuses. What this means is you are taking a big drop on your way to collecting the bonuses. You are almost always behind until you fill the Pie/Valise up. The Pie/Valise would have been worked down to one to go, the card would get pulled, the ticket would be cashed out, a new bill would go in the machine, then the play would be finished.
What if you hit a bonus round then withdrawal your players card on any slot. Then you accumulate your bonuses with the card out of the machine. Then re-insert card after the bonus round. Imthinking of hot roll where I commonly make $5-15 on a bonus round playing only a 20c bet.
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> Several casinos have loss rebates - Riviera, Palms, Tropicana, Cosmopolitan and now Hooter's according to the latest Vegas Values Report.
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> Scot Krause wrote:
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> —Westin and both Canneries too.
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I haven't been in Nevada if 4 1/2 years now so I have no idea what the inventory on the casino floors looks like today. I'm wondering if any slot machines (not video pokers) have been disqualified from these loss rebate promotions.If these type promotions had been going on in the heyday of advantage slots the casinos would have gotten crushed. That is, the ones with the right equipment. It would have been so lucrative that some guys would've been going down to D Street or St. Vincent's looking for new sign-ups. On some type of advantage slots it's easy to win but show a loss, or take a small loss while showing a much bigger loss. It would have been done through slot card manipulation.
Take a game like Wild Cherry Bonus Pie/Diamond Thief. Roughly, 2/3's of the payback is in the line pays and 1/3'rd of the payback is in the bonuses. What this means is you are taking a big drop on your way to collecting the bonuses. You are almost always behind until you fill the Pie/Valise up. The Pie/Valise would have been worked down to one to go, the card would get pulled, the ticket would be cashed out, a new bill would go in the machine, then the play would be finished.
The only casino I ever encountered where the card reader wouldn't revert back to "insert card" when I pulled the slot card was the Wendover Nugget. If you pulled your card in the middle of a video poker hand the card reader clearly showed that your card was still engaged. It wouldn't clear until you finished your hand. I recently heard of a system where, if you pulled your card, the card reader wouldn't disengage until all the credits were played off, even if someone else inserted there card and put money in the machne.
With the above systems it's easy to tell that you can't cover up a win. But what about the systems where the reader reverts back to "insert card" or whatever? Pulling the card always worked for me. But I haven't used a slot card in 4 1/2 years. So I have no idea if or how much more technologically advanced the players club systems are today.
There was a trick I tried to play on the boothlings a few times by saying something like "Gee, I was really drunk yesterday. Could you tell me if I won or lost?" In every case their response was "I don't have access to that information." I figured I'd have to deal with a superviser so I gave up on that technique. I don't know. Maybe I should have tried it in a few more places. You might be able to weasel the information out of your slot host.
I do know this. I never got a win/loss statement that was even remotely accurate to what my real bottom line was in that casino. I looked like the biggest sucker loser on the planet.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "m" <mxpxman264@...> wrote:
What if you hit a bonus round then withdraw your players card on any slot. Then you accumulate your bonuses with the card out of the machine. Then re-insert card after the bonus round. Im thinking of hot roll where I commonly make $5-15 on a bonus round playing only a 20c bet.