Would you rather play..
10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
OR
9/6 JoB with .335% comp
I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
What would YOU do?
Since I would probably die of boredom within 5 minutes of starting to play JOB, I would choose DDB.
George
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
Would you rather play..
10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
OR
9/6 JoB with .335% compI know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
What would YOU do?
Amateur lurker here:
I'd go with the higher payoff.
I figure I want the volatility anyway, if I'm sitting there hoping
for a Royal, right? Up to a point, anyway.
Could I play FPDW at 100.76% instead?
The whole idea, of which I really like Frank Kneeland's take,
is to get enough hands going to where you are in the long run.
So sure, I might only play a few hours at a time, but my
life is the 'long run' I am thinking about vs/ the machines.
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_Reno] Variance vs Payback vs Comp: What would you do?
To: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 6:59 PM
Would you rather play..
10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
OR
9/6 JoB with .335% comp
I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
What would YOU do?
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Play the game with the higher payback when theoretical return and comps are added together, if my bankroll would support it.
DDB looks like the choice, but with the higher variance would require a larger bankroll. If my bankroll can't handle the game, I can't play the game.
Bankroll must be suited to the game/promo.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
Would you rather play..
10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
OR
9/6 JoB with .335% compI know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
What would YOU do?
Actually, I rechecked it and the 10/6 DDB has .360% comp...
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "testpro" <testpro@...> wrote:
Play the game with the higher payback when theoretical return and comps are added together, if my bankroll would support it.
DDB looks like the choice, but with the higher variance would require a larger bankroll. If my bankroll can't handle the game, I can't play the game.
Bankroll must be suited to the game/promo.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
>
> Would you rather play..
> 10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
> OR
> 9/6 JoB with .335% comp
>
> I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
> But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
> What would YOU do?
>
There's basically a .5% difference in EV with the pseudo-devil game @ flat top and FPJB a half-percent loser. Do a milion dollars/year of action and FPJB costs you $5K/yr and devil game is breakeven with an addtional "$3,400" in "comps."
There's got to be more to this that brings an advantage to the table: freeplay, tourneys, events...?
We wouuld do our gambling at the psuedo-devil game as my wife can't tolerate FPJB. Been there did that 15 years ago.
Alcohol and other distractions/anomalies disregarded in the equations.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
Would you rather play..
10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
OR
9/6 JoB with .335% compI know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
What would YOU do?
I'm not including free play or anything else into the equation, although it's good...
$400 a month for $40k per month in coin-in.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:
There's basically a .5% difference in EV with the pseudo-devil game @ flat top and FPJB a half-percent loser. Do a milion dollars/year of action and FPJB costs you $5K/yr and devil game is breakeven with an addtional "$3,400" in "comps."
There's got to be more to this that brings an advantage to the table: freeplay, tourneys, events...?
We wouuld do our gambling at the psuedo-devil game as my wife can't tolerate FPJB. Been there did that 15 years ago.
Alcohol and other distractions/anomalies disregarded in the equations.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
>
> Would you rather play..
> 10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
> OR
> 9/6 JoB with .335% comp
>
> I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
> But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
> What would YOU do?
>
The variance of the DB, DDB games is such a downer. Try 9/6 JOB Progre3ssive at El Darado. The comps make it all worth while and the last 2 Jackpots have been huge. One at $6600. And every time you hit 2 pr just enjoy that extra $5.
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE_Reno] Re: Variance vs Payback vs Comp: What would you do?
To: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 8:43 PM
I'm not including free play or anything else into the equation, although it's good...
$400 a month for $40k per month in coin-in.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@...> wrote:
There's basically a .5% difference in EV with the pseudo-devil game @ flat top and FPJB a half-percent loser. Do a milion dollars/year of action and FPJB costs you $5K/yr and devil game is breakeven with an addtional "$3,400" in "comps."
There's got to be more to this that brings an advantage to the table: freeplay, tourneys, events...?
We wouuld do our gambling at the psuedo-devil game as my wife can't tolerate FPJB. Been there did that 15 years ago.
Alcohol and other distractions/anomalies disregarded in the equations.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
>
> Would you rather play..
> 10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
> OR
> 9/6 JoB with .335% comp
>
> I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
> But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
> What would YOU do?
>
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But Eldorado doesn't give what I want. (generous free play, rooms every weekend; I'm not a local, but I literally live in a reno hotel 3 days out of the week.)
Believe me, if I had a second choice, it'd be Atlantis, but even they suck. (MUST have a credit card to check-in, pitiful free play, food is overpriced)
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, WM <squawk_1200@...> wrote:
The variance of the DB, DDB games is such a downer. Try 9/6 JOB Progre3ssive at El Darado. The comps make it all worth while and the last 2 Jackpots have been huge. One at $6600. And every time you hit 2 pr just enjoy that extra $5.
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:From: TIMSPEED <corvetteracing87@...>
Subject: [vpFREE_Reno] Re: Variance vs Payback vs Comp: What would you do?
To: vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 8, 2011, 8:43 PMÂ
I'm not including free play or anything else into the equation, although it's good...
$400 a month for $40k per month in coin-in.--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <haaljo@> wrote:
>
> There's basically a .5% difference in EV with the pseudo-devil game @ flat top and FPJB a half-percent loser. Do a milion dollars/year of action and FPJB costs you $5K/yr and devil game is breakeven with an addtional "$3,400" in "comps."
>
> There's got to be more to this that brings an advantage to the table: freeplay, tourneys, events...?
>
> We wouuld do our gambling at the psuedo-devil game as my wife can't tolerate FPJB. Been there did that 15 years ago.
>
> Alcohol and other distractions/anomalies disregarded in the equations.
>
> --- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@> wrote:
> >
> > Would you rather play..
> > 10/6/40 DDB with .300% comp
> > OR
> > 9/6 JoB with .335% comp
> >
> > I know DDB has a higher payback (at 99.95%) while JoB has a lower (with 99.54%)...but DDB has about double the variance (41.96) while JoB has 19.56...
> > But then again, the JoB comps a little better...
> > What would YOU do?
> >
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