In a message dated 2/5/2003 10:39:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com writes:
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:29:43 -0800 (PST)
From: gj bart <bronco@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Value.... we all have our part to play.>
>The value of belonging to any newsgroup lay in the collective
>knowledge, wisdom, honesty, and the willing to share of its members.
>The membership is always going to run the field from expert to
>neophyte. Members who have been around a long time have be tolerant
>of the newcomers and must be willing to repeat and revisit threads
>they had hoped were long dead. Those that came before you made that
>sacrifice for you when you were green, so be patient.
>
>
>For those of us who have participated in this group or the SHG know
>that the following threads are deadly, smoking, tipping shameless
>self promotion or, the mention of certain names. I would list more
>but, experience has shown me that I risk people focusing on this
>rather then the point of my post. So use the old imagination ,but
>keep them to yourself thank you!
>
>The longer you belong to any of these groups the lower the number of
>threads that are of value to you. The rest are background noise or
>contain information you long ago stored in to memory. So it could be
>argued very effectively that belonging to these groups, free or
>otherwise is a proposition of diminishing return. Yes new
>information does come to light on all of the groups, changes in
>casino inventory is a good example. This is good information, useful
>to many members. Regrettably many times people take this kind of
>information a bit too much to heart, and in short order these threads
>become bitter, and of little use to anyone.
>
>It is sad but when people remain anonymous, the temptation of being
>dishonest is more then they can stand. Not infrequently assertions
>are made that seem too good to be true. Yes, we have all been
>witness to events that simply defy the odds. I have been witness to
>royals on 25 dollar machines, I once witnessed a player hit 2 royals
>on the same machine within an hour. Events like that make terrific
>subjects for posts, and I encourage people to make them. I would like
>to discourage folks from posting purely fictional claims. Two
>examples that really burn me up are exaggerations of the number of
>royals hit, and exaggeration of earnings. I have seen W-2G contests
>in person. I have never viewed a single post where a person scanned
>one and posted it for proof.
>
>
>In the end integrity is the value that is most frequently missing
>from video poker news groups.
>Personal assaults, shameless self promotion, greed, zealous beliefs,
>and being closed minded, all damage the integrity of all the VP
>newsgroups. Discouragement of opposing views is completely and
>totally deadly . Censorship has used by totalitarian regimes for
>as long as man has stood on two feet. Fundamental disagreements need
>to me aired and common ground discovered. The common good will never
>prosper when iron fisted tactics are employed by members, or group
>owners.
>
>
>In closing, I would like to encourage the owners and members of this
>group, to treat each other with dignity and respect. Show some
>tolerance for people with differing points of view, If you disagree
>say so politely. Save calling someone a "stupid Jackass" for after
>you press send.
>
>
>Brad Humelsine
>
>Strange words coming from someone who, in one of his very first
posts, opined of a long-time listmember, "You sir, in the event your
friends are too polite to tell you, are a fool" and then proceeded to
make several ill-educated comments about the "myth" of fullpay.gj
gj, I remember this response from Brad too. But I seem to remember that it
was provoked.
Regardless of who posted this, isn't the message worthy of consideration?
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Brad <tarpon@sportsfishing.com> wrote: